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member: Purpl AIM: mmmpurpl recalled an account and refuses to repay me

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Date that scamming took place: 15 OCTOBER 2011
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: mmmpurpl

MMOBay Account of Scammer: if any
: purpl
Your Instant Messenger ID: eddyinfante84
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Scam Information
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What was scammed?
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...rver-firsts-mims-head-amani-warbear-look.html
Approximate value of scammed property: No idea what the $$ Value was but I invested $400 in gold for the account.

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who? No
Describe how you were scammed: I traded my account to purpl, I purchased the account from my army buddy and roomate for his shaman. I went to log in this morning and the info was reset. I called blizzard and they said that the email that was used before mine is what is registered on the account now.


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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/437318-help.html
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Other proof:

[B][COLOR=green][SIZE=4]Additional Information[/SIZE][/COLOR]
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? [COLOR=#ff0000]Yes I did, I looked a bit into the history of the account. As well as the trades the user had completed in the past.[/COLOR]
Have you traded with this person before? [COLOR=#ff0000]No[/COLOR]
Approximately how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? [SIZE=5][COLOR=#ff0000]20+ transactions with zero issues EVER[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B]
 
Dude you a mother****ing liar, "the email used before mine is what is registered" that would be the fake email I made, I didn't touch the account.

You right off the bat were a **** to me and I tried to help you.

In out convo you never meentioned you called blizzard, you just wanted your rogue back (army sent me several texts whining about how he just wanted to trade back") I told you since you said indy recalled the shaman so I told you id rrecall the account I have him but you "bought it". You said indy recalled ghe shaman and you said I recalled it. I made another thread on this forum so mods please look at that, it explains everything that went down and how shady this guy is.

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I didn't recall anything, you insist that I did and indy did, I told you if indy recalled the account I d get the one I gave him back and give it to you, you sent me texts saying you "wanted to trade back""can and can I please let you on my rogue. And now you suddenly say the account was recalled. "Gimme proof you didn't recall it" how the **** do I prove it? I don't have it so there's your proof ..
 
I see WHY you would blame indy on YOU scamming the account and scrambling for excuses. Because he was recently caught recalling .... but didn't and only you would have a reason to recall it. You have provided no proof why or that you didn't recall the account. Only pointing fingers at others instead of just owning up to you being super shady.

As far as the other thread, I posted our AIM conversation on it with him saying he would recall an account he had a while back to repay me with. WHICH I HAD PURCHASED RECENTLY FROM THE OO. Then he went on to say that I could get my money back, and he would recall the account from the person I bought it from and give it to me .... how freaking shady is that!!!!

Keep thinking of random people to blame it on bro, low life *******.
 
Im not even gonna read your ****, you lie so much man..

I said Id recall the warrior since you said sshaman was recalled, if indy recalled the shaman im recalling the warrior I gave him... that doesn't make sense to you though. you said you called blizz and they told you email was reset to the one before yours, which is a lie. Blizzard wouldn't give out that info and you told me you didn't call, also you told abysss you work for blizzard but you were just in afghanistan 13 days ago.. THIS GUY IS A HUGE LIAR! Anyone who is ever going to trade with him please read this and save your self the hassle of dealing with this dip****. I honestly don't care what happens now, I know im reimbursing abyss because of this ****o, but other than that man, suck it

Also, you dumb mother****er, I didn't blame indy, you did. Mike please aim me so I can let you in on everything that's going down. Armyman is a retard, wanted his rogue back after I said no, so he said shaman got recalled as an excuse to get it back. He's been caught in a lie..

How do I provide proof I didn't recall something? I know people say UMADBRO alot and right now im ****ing furiouss. I didn't recall anything, the shaman was never recalled, this guy is a liar.
 
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lmfao what ever bro, so you were going to recall a warrior you traded away months ago .... to repay me for an account that you scammed from me. How does that make any sense I really hope people see that he is trying to justify him recalling an account that he traded away months ago to repay me lol.
 
The thing is dips****, I didn't trade it away months ago, a few days before i traded shaman to you I traded the warrior for the shaman.. you kept insisting he recalled so I told you id get the account back from him but you bought it. Just shut the **** up and let a mod look over this
check the date for Indydodgeram 's shaman thread, that wasn't months ago, another lie..
 
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[9:27:00 PM] s w a g: ummm wtf
[9:27:07 PM] s w a g: there isnt account on the battle.net account anymore
[9:27:11 PM] s w a g: the wow account is completely gone
[9:27:25 PM] Jared Holmes: yeah im the OO bro
[9:27:32 PM] s w a g: i know that
[9:27:39 PM] Jared Holmes: it was moved to a completely new Bnet
[9:27:41 PM] s w a g: but how did you remove the account
[9:27:43 PM] Jared Holmes: to avoid further issues
[9:27:54 PM] s w a g: what did you say to them to get them to do that just wondering
[9:28:05 PM] Jared Holmes: <---- works for blizzard
[9:28:09 PM] s w a g: lol
[9:28:15 PM] s w a g: but you're in the army?
[9:28:26 PM] Jared Holmes: i was in the army
[9:28:30 PM] Jared Holmes: eddy is in the army
[9:28:33 PM] Jared Holmes: im his roomate
[9:29:03 PM] Jared Holmes: in either case
[9:29:04 PM] s w a g: if you dont wanna tell me what you had to say to get them to do that just say you dont want to tell me
[9:29:06 PM] s w a g: dont lie
[9:29:09 PM] s w a g: it makes you look like a fool
[9:29:12 PM] Jared Holmes: if you end up with nothing please let me know what i can do to help you
[9:29:19 PM] Jared Holmes: i have no reason to lie
[9:29:22 PM] Jared Holmes: but kk
[9:29:27 PM] s w a g: you obviously dont work for blizzard though :(
[9:29:32 PM] Jared Holmes: kk lol
[9:29:52 PM] s w a g: because you made a customer service phone call 12 hours ago
[9:29:58 PM] s w a g: and reported an account compromise
[9:30:11 PM] s w a g: and 14 days ago you made a customer service phone call to get the account
[9:30:17 PM] s w a g: s
[9:30:19 PM] s w a g: authenticator removed
[9:30:24 PM] s w a g: and you sent in a bunch of ID scans and stuff
[9:30:30 PM] Jared Holmes: first off
[9:30:40 PM] Jared Holmes: that was when i returned from Afghanistan
[9:30:45 PM] s w a g: yep
[9:30:47 PM] Jared Holmes: which btw
[9:30:49 PM] s w a g: obviously
[9:30:51 PM] s w a g: you said it in the message
[9:30:55 PM] Jared Holmes: was when i submitted my application
[9:31:00 PM] s w a g: so you got back from afghanistan 14 days ago and you work for blizzard now?
[9:31:01 PM] s w a g: yep
[9:31:02 PM] s w a g: sure
[9:31:04 PM] s w a g: lmao
[9:31:06 PM] Jared Holmes: graphic design
[9:31:08 PM] Jared Holmes: lol
[9:31:15 PM] Jared Holmes: i have nothing to prove to you man
[9:31:22 PM] Jared Holmes: let me know if you need my help with anything
[9:31:35 PM] Jared Holmes: my intention was not to have you left with nothing
[9:31:41 PM] s w a g: well i can get my rogue back
[9:31:43 PM] Jared Holmes: but purpl gave me no choice
[9:31:44 PM] s w a g: i have the id for my 70 rogue
[9:31:48 PM] s w a g: and i didnt give it to purpl
[9:31:49 PM] Jared Holmes: kk
[9:31:55 PM] s w a g: im dissapointed because i really liked that rogue
[9:31:58 PM] s w a g: but im fine here
[9:32:03 PM] s w a g: im not really out too much
[9:32:07 PM] s w a g: just a few days time on the rogue
[9:32:20 PM] s w a g: but why the **** areu lying about working for blizz its just really shady
[9:32:39 PM] Jared Holmes: lmfao
[9:32:42 PM] Jared Holmes: w/e man
[9:32:56 PM] Jared Holmes: do you know how blizzard does tech support
[9:33:04 PM] s w a g: ?
[9:33:17 PM] Jared Holmes: or how they contract their graphic design?
[9:33:33 PM] Jared Holmes: should check their applications
[9:33:37 PM] Jared Holmes: they are posted on their site
[9:33:46 PM] Jared Holmes: you are given 10 options
[9:34:13 PM] Jared Holmes: a few of them includ contracting technical/phone/account support
[9:34:26 PM] Jared Holmes: and a few for their graphic design and web editing contracts
[9:34:31 PM] Jared Holmes: but w/e
[9:34:34 PM] Jared Holmes: what would i know lol
[9:35:26 PM] s w a g: i dont wanna argue with you but it makes absolutely no sense
[9:35:35 PM] Jared Holmes: lol w.e man
[9:35:38 PM] s w a g: thats all im saying
[9:35:45 PM] Jared Holmes: gl and let me know if you need my help with anything
[9:35:46 PM] s w a g: cya l8r gl





the wow account the mimirons head/deaths demise rogue was on got COMPLETELY removed from the battle.net account, the battle.net account is now just completely empty, no game accounts on it at all

as you can see hes saying he works for blizzard when he obviously doesn't, Jared Holmes is apparently a different person than ArmyMan.. its his friend/roommate/something, so whatever... but still just shows hes a shady guy
i really don't believe the shaman was recalled when you look at all of the evidence.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2d11xfq.png here's the thing mentioned in the skype convo a few weeks ago he submitted a form on his account and gave his id and stuff to blizzard to get his account back, but now a week or 2 later after getting home from afghanistan he works for blizz? shady lying.....

also i have heard from a lot of people in the past armyman can be a shady guy, and like i said in my last post he did have a negative rep and i know for a fact he hasn't had 0 issues 'ever'

lots and lots of shadiness
 
LOL keep fishing ... I offered to help you about Anyssrune to let me know if you needed anything. Considering Purpl ****ed both of us, the end state of this is him proving he didn't scam me and that that dodge guy did. If he can provide any evidence he didn't then I will open admit I am wrong and say that I am sorry.

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PS i need to st[p drinking in order to solve thios
 
You said he did, it doesn't appear to abyss I recalled it, because I didn't, I honestly don't give a **** what happens anymore, im gonna make things right with abyss, you could suck a ****. You lie so ****ing much just because you wanted your account back. Adios, good riddance, **** you.
 
oddly enough he nerd rages instead of providing evidence he didn't scam me, I have provided all the evidence I have and he couldn't come up with anything. I offered to help Abyss because I firmly believe Purpl ****ed us both over and the msg's Abyss himself shows me offering to help him. I will leave this to the admins. Thank you for your time.
 
Locking for now before this turns into a 9 page thread of you two going back and forth. This will be reviewed tomorrow and if needed, unlocked.
 
purpl trades warrior to Indydodgeram for shaman
purpl trades shaman to armyman for rogue

armyman wants rogue back
armyman claims shaman was recalled

purpl has ID for shaman

purpl offers the warrior
armyman says he already has the warrior and bought it from OO



How is Abyssrune involved? Who is SWAG? Who is Jared Holmes?

NO FLAMING! I only want the answers to these questions and if something is wrong that I listed above.
 
Purpl trades warrior for shaman
purpl trades shaman for rogue.

Army asks purpl several times if he wants to trade back, purpl declined everytime

Purpl trades rogue+cash to abyss

Army claims shaman was recalled

Army says indy recalled warrior but on armys post, his proof says he called blizzard and they said the email was returned to the one before his (which one army?)

Purpl offers army the warrior but he says purpl shouldn't recall it because purpls logic is ****ed up.. (I don't get it, if indy recalled shaman on me I should take warrior back)

Army says he just bought that warrior (-_-)

None of armys stories make sense, he just got back from afghanistan, yet works for blizzard.


Army recalled rogue thus ****ing over abyss

Truthfully, I doubt the shaman was even recalled. He was just looking for an excuse to get the rogue back. It was impossible to have a normal conversation with the guy, he raged sooo much

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I don't have ID for the shaman and I told army that..

Ive done background searching for it, a mod on this site bought it from epicmmo (doesn't give out ids I guess), traded it and then the dude traded it to me.


Also, I've offered to recall the shaman for him but nothing is good enough. So he recalled the rogue which means im out of an account and and 250 dollars. Seeing how I somehow can't recall the warrior even though he believes Indy recalled shaman.

As for the warrior, I got it from my friend who bought it off of khaccounts 2 years ago, I have no clue how the OO got it back unless he recalled it, if Indy did recall the shaman then the warrior is mine..

SWAG is abyss's skype. Jared holmes is either Army or his friend...

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After I had armys rogue, I traded it and some money for abyss's twink (I knew my friend wanted it) and then quit and sold it to my friend for 200, army recalled his rogue, abyss is getting his back and im refunding my friend 200, so im. Accountless, and lost $225. Army keeps asking for proof I didn't recall shaman, its impossible to prove. How about some proof it was recalled? He kept wanting the rogue back, he's a sketchy guy (don't recomend him, even on the trade we had problems with him being a **** and his sqa not working).

---------- Post added 10-16-2011 at 12:23 PM ----------

"Army says indy recalled warrior" I ment shaman.. this is one big cluster****
 
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Here is the sequence of events.

Army and Jared return from Afghanistan
Army wants to play WoW again, Jared does not (we are roomates)
Jared sells ROGUE account to Army for $900
Army decides to trade his account to Purpl for SHAMAN
Shaman is Recalled and in turn has Jared recall ROGUE

The reason we recalled the rogue is because Purpl's only solution is to recall an account I PURCHASED 3 days ago and hand it right back to me.
I dont care how Purpl got the shaman the end state is the shaman was recalled from me and I am no longer in possesion. If he can return the shaman to me this will be over and I will be happy. He has no way to do and and has refused to.

Indy has nothing to do with this.

The issue is 24 hours after getting my ROGUE Purpl trades it to abyss, then sells Abyss's account 12 hours later. He just doesn't want to lose money that is the issue ... instead of owning up to being a thieving ******* he blaimes this all on Indy who I am sure did nothing.

To answer the admins question SWAG = Abyss, the person Purpl SOLD Abyss's account to I have no idea ...

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Hey im also involved in this but i havent been mentioned because me and purpl have done a few trades just on aim and not on the boards. Anyway i originally traded the warrior to purpl he then traded it to indy and so forth. I also purchased the account abyssrune traded to purpl for armymans rogue. So right now im left with nothing, purpl has my money which i cant get back and abyssrune has his acc back.
 
Update ~ Purpl recalled my warrior and tried to pay Thor28 with it as a refund to the money Purpl got for Abyss's account. The kid is a scammer and I really hope people can see this and that he gets banned. So I am out the shaman he traded me and $400 that I paid for the warrior he recalled to repay HIS DEBT!
 
Sunday, October 16, 2011
mmmpurpl (11:41:29 AM):Yo king
mmmpurpl (11:41:32 AM):!!
mmmpurpl (11:41:38 AM):Important homie, important
mmmpurpl (12:45:46 PM):Check ur email, [email protected] complete the steps, im giving u cash and 85 warrior back
 
of course he is going to recall the warrior back, if the shaman really is recalled from you Armyman, then he needs to get back the warrior that he gave to Indy. just like you took the 85 rogue from me. he's basically doing the SAME EXACT thing you did by recalling the warrior.

that's not a scam, it's what he needs to do and what needs to be done.
 
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Not at all. The situation is as follows.

I traded my Rogue for "his shaman" how he got the shaman means jack. The account got taken from me, he traded that warrior away a long time ago. Not to mention he traded my rogue and sold what he traded FOR my rogue. He had no hands on the warrior. This is what is wrong with this website and the people that troll it, people think that recalling ANYTHING is acceptable. Now there are 3 people left with nothing, the person who he sold the last toon he had to. The person who had my rogue that Purpl traded with, and the kid he sold the ****ing rogue to. They are all left empty handed because Purpl wouldn't refund me anything in a legit manner. The person I bought the warrior from is keeping the money I paid him, because I am not an A Hole and have a freaking soul. The person who HAD my rogue before Purpl traded it to is getting re-embursed by ME and NOT my Purpl because he refuses to talk to anyone or settle his debts like an adult. Let me break it down a bit further:

I give a person a dollar, in return I get a dollar.
That person STEALS the dollar he gave me BACK (how he got that dollar means nothing and has nothing to do with the trade).
Who is responsible for returning MY dollar to me? The person who stole it or the person he got his dollar from?

For Christs sake people how does this make sense and how can you even argue the fact that Purpl isn't responsible at all.

Not to mention: I pay $400 for something that Purpl owned 3 freakin weeks ago and he thinks he has the right to steal THAT back and try and repay a completely different debt entirely.

If this doesn't get handled by admins I will not sleep until Zach Muncy from Michigan repays what is owed to me, at a minimum a APOLOGY!

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All I wanted back in the first place is the shaman, the ONLY reason Jared recalled the rogue is because Purpl refused to repay me. Instead he knows I have the warrior he had in the past and knows for a fact that he can recall it, so he does and I am out another $400 on top of the freaking Shaman.
 
armyman buys rogue from Jared for $900

thorr28 trades warrior to purpl
purpl trades warrior to Indydodgeram for shaman
purpl trades shaman to armyman for rogue
purpl trades rogue + $25 to abyss for twink
purpl sells twink for $200 to thorr28 ????

armyman wants to trade back for rogue
purpl declines
armyman claims shaman was recalled

abyss recalled twink back
purpl refunds friend $200

purpl offers the warrior
armyman says he already has the warrior and bought it from OO

armyman recalls rogue
purpl recalls warrior to give to thorr28


Here's what should have happened. Shaman gets recalled. armyman opens a scam thread, it gets resolved between the two of them and Indydodgeram . Instead just about every trade gets recalled like a bunch of idiots and you want me to sort it out while you continue to recall more accounts. How about I just ban everyone?

Im done with massive chain trades. This is the last one I'm getting involved in. I've spend about 3 hrs just trying to figure out what happened and I still don't think my time-line is right.

If 1 more account get recalled, that person will be banned.

Is my time line correct? If not make specific corrections, no more stories or accusations.
 
Sunday, October 16, 2011
mmmpurpl (11:41:29 AM):Yo king
mmmpurpl (11:41:32 AM):!!
mmmpurpl (11:41:38 AM):Important homie, important
mmmpurpl (12:45:46 PM):Check ur email, [email protected] complete the steps, im giving u cash and 85 warrior back

thats what i said, im not leaving him with nothing, im refunding the cash and returning him with an account

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of course he is going to recall the warrior back, if the shaman really is recalled from you Armyman, then he needs to get back the warrior that he gave to Indy. just like you took the 85 rogue from me. he's basically doing the SAME EXACT thing you did by recalling the warrior.

that's not a scam, it's what he needs to do and what needs to be done.

Thank you.

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armyman buys rogue from Jared for $900

thorr28 trades warrior to purpl
purpl trades warrior to Indydodgeram for shaman
purpl trades shaman to armyman for rogue
purpl trades rogue + $25 to abyss for twink
purpl sells twink for $200 to thorr28 ????

armyman wants to trade back for rogue
purpl declines
armyman claims shaman was recalled

abyss recalled twink back
purpl refunds friend $200

purpl offers the warrior
armyman says he already has the warrior and bought it from OO

armyman recalls rogue
purpl recalls warrior to give to thorr28


Here's what should have happened. Shaman gets recalled. armyman opens a scam thread, it gets resolved between the two of them and Indydodgeram . Instead just about every trade gets recalled like a bunch of idiots and you want me to sort it out while you continue to recall more accounts. How about I just ban everyone?

Im done with massive chain trades. This is the last one I'm getting involved in. I've spend about 3 hrs just trying to figure out what happened and I still don't think my time-line is right.

If 1 more account get recalled, that person will be banned.

Is my time line correct? If not make specific corrections, no more stories or accusations.

Indy is gone, wont answer me on aim. Im left here with nothing, Im taking the warrior back. Everything got recalled so i dont give a **** what happens.. Abyss got his rogue back, Thorr is getting the cash back and the warrior is going back to me. Army accused indy of recalling shaman, so since everything army says is right, that means i should recall warrior.

And yes, your time line is correct.

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what did i steal you dumbass? I didnt recall anything. And I doubt the account was recalled you just wanted your rogue back. If it was recalled, hey, **** happens, your trading accounts. I didnt recall it, I offered you an account and I didnt know you wouldve have just bought it. Instead of helping me work this out you bitched and whined how your gonna make an 8 hour drive to kick my ***... You got your rogue, Abyss got his, Thorr is getting his money back,

I ****ED NO ONE HERE AND YET IM SCREWED. IF INDY RECALLED THE ****ING SHAMAN THEN THAT MEANS HE SHOULDNT HAVE TRADED OR SOLD THE WARRIOR, IT IS MINE IF HE TOOK BACK HIS ACCOUNT. I DONT GET WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. Directed towards army, not anyone else. My posts look like **** since i keep typing more and more and its just adding it to my previous post.
 
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I guess my parents raised me right, and taught me stealing is stealing and its freaking wrong. One ... I am out $400 for the warrior you recalled ... and 2 you haven't repaid Thorr28 and from what I am told you blocked him too. I really hope you search deep and find some morals and values because obviously your parents didn't teach you how to be a decent human being. To be 100% honest, I this may be a waste of time but I have full intentions of filing an internet theft case against you. Being as I have your address and full name and phone number. Additionally I have more than enough proof that I paid $400 for the account you openly admitted to stealing from ME. Between text messages, posts in this thread, and people who you screwed over I should be able to build a case. If I fail then at least I tried, and if I succeed maybe your parents will beat some damn sense into you. If you don't own up to what you owe me and what you've done that is who I will be contacting, being as I am sure you are a minor.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
lol.... Army only issue is. you didnt pay him. so technically you cant get **** out of him. 2nd. man you try to make yourself sound like some tough guy behind a computer when your probably a geeky *** nerd with no friends n no life living in your moms basement.
 
^^^^ Clever rebuttal .... coming from someone with 42 rep and 1660 posts I think you have me beat on the geeky *** nerd with no friends and no life in your moms basement thing =p. Additionally I am in the Army and married to a 900 pound woman who loves me for who I am LMFAO. Get the cliche right man before trolling to get your posts up and make your epeen bigger.
 
File the case friend, I didn't do ****. You know I'm right about all of this so your raging.Vi don't give a **** you paid money for the account.. I told you to get your money back because it's muahs. You don't have my address, remember when you were tracking me down? The city you said isn't even in my state :D. I never blocked thorr, I've been texting him. I just blocked you because you say **** then block me like a *****. I have morals, you just can't comprehend ****.

For the last time, I didn't steal ****, you're dumb, warrior is mine, bye bye :)
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
Lmao.... Your funny but unlike some people i could give two ****s what u or anyone says. Like markee this site well go down. Blizzard well start banning accounts for ip changes that r half way across world or diff continent so trust me every dog has there day n so well u.
 
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