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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #33FF33">Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> ex; 03/09/10
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> AIM,
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> Muslim

<span style="font-weight: bold">MMOBAY Account of Scammer:</span> Youssef



<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span>50k gold or 325$
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any

http://forums.mmobay.net/forums/ubbthrea...S_H#Post3255698

<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> $325 USD

<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?:</span> no
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?:</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed:</span>

we delivered him gold at 03/01/10 but got letter from paypal today to say that you of a bank reversal filed by Mary Enid Haines for a
transaction on Mar 2, 2010. We need a bit more information from you.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Yes / No (optional)
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span> Yes / No (optional)no
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?:</span> (optional)many


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The moment he said Joint, you should of stopped
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Sorry for your loss...

GL
 
User notified, has 24 hours to respond.
 
Ok I just heard about this. I have no idea what it is about. my paypal is always fine.


Looking into it right now.




I assure you I am not a scammer. WoWguys, you should stop being hostile to me if you want to clear this up. Threatening me and calling the canadian military will NOT help.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mordred69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The moment he said Joint, you should of stopped
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Sorry for your loss...

GL </div></div>


And what do you mean? He is chinese I didn't know how to explain to him that my paypal is hooked up to two email addresses, because I have multiple email addresses.

I created a gmail account for my paypal address so i could access it through my G1 Google phone.


You're wrong by thinking im a scammer. I highly doubt anything is wrong with my payment, but I am checking now and will get back to you all.
 
Ok so it appears there was a reversal on the payment.

I did not authorize this, and my bank did not notify me over the phone. I only received 1 email from paypal.

http://ioj.com/v/k8mwr


This is very odd, seing as I am still able to buy and sell with my paypal account. this is an isolated issue.

I will call my bank later today and ask them what is up.



By the way matthew, the deal was never completed. I only received 46000g, we had plans to trade the rest later due to security issues.
 
It may have been seen as an unauthorized transfer from your bank's side. Please update us here on what happens after you give a call to the bank.

Wowguys, could you please confirm that you had only provided 46,000/50,000g?
 
Thank you, TJP

i am sorry for a bit delay to respond
we did owe him some gold cuz he said he got new computer and needed to install wow
he said he should let us know when he installed well

i am collecting these screenshot for the transaction and make sure the amount
 
we are waiting for him to call his bank to see what happened

once it is ok then we shall deliver him the rest of 4000gold as long as he is convenient to log in wow
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wowguys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">we are waiting for him to call his bank to see what happened

once it is ok then we shall deliver him the rest of 4000gold as long as he is convenient to log in wow </div></div>

Alright, sounds great.

Please let us know what happens Youssef.
 
just talked with him



muslim is available (8:52:45)
ME (8:52:44): hello?
Muslim (8:57:02): hello
Muslim (8:57:11): sorry was playing the game
ME (8:57:14): np
ME (8:57:19): did u call bank?
Muslim (8:57:48): I called and they did not authorize the reversal. There is enough money in my bank account so we think it was a mistake, on paypals side
Muslim (8:57:56): What should I do?
ME (8:58:10): could u send message to ur paypal?
ME (8:58:17): and call paypal too
Muslim (8:58:50): I can send the payment again if you want
ME (8:58:59): ty
ME (8:59:07): that is perfect way
ME (8:59:17): sending it as gift
Muslim (8:59:21): ok
ME (8:59:29): then i shall cancel that dispute
Muslim (8:59:41): or i can give gold back to you
ME (8:59:47): no
Muslim (8:59:51): ok
ME (8:59:53): we dont need gold
ME (9:00:30): need my paypal again?
Muslim (9:00:35): i have it
ME (9:02:04): ok
ME (9:02:08): could u send it now
ME (9:02:14): as gift
ME (9:02:17): or a lot fees
Muslim (9:02:37): I am going to call paypal first
ME (9:02:43): kk
Muslim (9:02:45): right now
Muslim (9:03:01): I want to make sure they don't do it again
ME (9:03:19): understand
ME (9:11:19): i called my paypal they said its ur bank canceled the paypal if u could let ur bank cancel it ?
ME (9:11:36): if u could let ur bank close it ?*
ME (9:26:45): so&#65311;
ME (9:35:50): could you just send me the 325$ again and then i close that dispute and we deliver you rest gold
ME (9:47:03): you there&#65311;
ME (10:27:03): hi
ME (10:55:07): hello&#65311;
ME (10:55:38): What should we do?
ME (10:58:47): hello?

but he did nothing til now
 
While I understand you're impatient wowguys, I also believe it's in the interest of both parties to first contact paypal to prevent the payment from possibly processing twice or having the original $325 sent lost somewhere.

Youssef, please update us here when you call paypal and get this sorted out.

Thanks for the cooperation of both parties thus far.
 
i got letter from paypal

Thank you for responding with details about this recent transaction.

We have completed our investigation into this transaction. Any funds that
may have been temporarily held are now available in your account.

We appreciate your cooperation, this inquiry is closed.

although i win the payment,operator told me it was truely that his bank reversal filed by him for the transaction on Mar 2, 2010.

i am not sure why he did that
 
Well if you have the money, it's only fair to deliver the rest of the gold.
 
i am sorry for a bit delay to reponse

his aim is always online

i sent him message times and times
butnever replied me



when he is available to receive it ,it wil be done.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wowguys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i am sorry for a bit delay to reponse

his aim is always online

i sent him message times and times
butnever replied me



when he is available to receive it ,it wil be done.


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Alright, let me know when everything is set.
 
Btw,admin/mod,would you mind notifying Youssef?cuz we cant get in touch with him

or you may lock the thread first

Thank you
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wowguys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Btw,admin/mod,would you mind notifying Youssef?cuz we cant get in touch with him

or you may lock the thread first

Thank you </div></div>

Notifying Youssef to get this resolved. It's been a long time, I'm going to give the user 48 hours before locking the thread.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wowguys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i got letter from paypal

Thank you for responding with details about this recent transaction.

We have completed our investigation into this transaction. Any funds that
may have been temporarily held are now available in your account.

We appreciate your cooperation, this inquiry is closed.

although i win the payment,operator told me it was truely that his bank reversal filed by him for the transaction on Mar 2, 2010.

i am not sure why he did that </div></div>


I don't like this one bit. WoWguys is still talking as if I am a scammer, and I am purposely trying to take back my money.

This is not the case. There was a paypal error, that was resolved quickly. He has the money, he did not WIN it, and I did not purposely reverse the payment.

I am going to collect the rest of the gold now, but I doubt I will do business with him in the future.


Thanks to all the mods, first experience in this forum section and I am pleased with the outcome even though I wish this whole thing could have been avoided.
 
Thank you,TJP

we got in touch with him and resolved the event

you may lock the thread now

Thank you again
 
Thank you for the update Youssef. As agreed, Wowguys, you owe Youssef the remaining 4K gold. Once this is traded, Youssef, please update us to finally close this dispute and we can move on from there
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Thanks for the cooperation on both parties.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wowguys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you,TJP

we got in touch with him and resolved the event

you may lock the thread now

Thank you again </div></div>

Youssef, please confirm this.
 
Thanks everyone for the cooperation and getting this resolution worked out.

Thread locked as resolution has been met.
 
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