lolgb took $100 from me for a fake code and is trying to scam another person

[Norak]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Information
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Dispute Date: March 30, 2013
Method of Contact Used: epicnpc, skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Sorcerak (skype)
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: lolbg
Your Instant Messenger ID: Jon Fister (xxnorakuxx) Don't judge, I made it when I was like 15

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? Money
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/league-legen...-***-pax-twisted-fate-***-code-exclusive.html
Approximate value of property: $100 USD

Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
He said he would sell me the Pax TF skin for $100, I payed and he gave me a code which had already been used. Then he stopped responding to me on skype.

Other details / notes:
He's pretending that I tried to scam him, so he can scam more people.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:

[3/30/2013 9:16:47 PM] Jon Fister: Hi Matr0x, I'd like to add you as a contact. Jon Fister
[3/31/2013 8:08:02 AM] Matr0x: Matr0x has shared contact details with Jon Fister.
[3/31/2013 8:08:17 AM] Matr0x: you there
[3/31/2013 8:08:32 AM] Matr0x: im the one who selling the PAX TF code
[3/31/2013 8:09:57 AM] Matr0x: after about 10-12 hours from this msg ill be on if you still want to buy the code
[3/31/2013 1:54:17 PM] Jon Fister: YEAH
[3/31/2013 1:54:18 PM] Jon Fister: i'M HERE
[3/31/2013 1:54:28 PM] Jon Fister: Oops caps
[3/31/2013 1:54:34 PM] Jon Fister: Are you there now?
[3/31/2013 3:15:22 PM] Matr0x: hey there
[3/31/2013 3:15:34 PM] Matr0x: you ON ?
[3/31/2013 3:32:26 PM] Jon Fister: yeah
[3/31/2013 3:32:27 PM] Jon Fister: I'm here
[3/31/2013 3:32:34 PM] Jon Fister: how do I pay you?
[3/31/2013 3:48:51 PM] Matr0x: man
[3/31/2013 3:48:58 PM] Matr0x: moneybookers
[3/31/2013 3:49:05 PM] Matr0x: dont you read it ?
[3/31/2013 3:51:51 PM] Matr0x: i tought you knew that
[3/31/2013 3:52:22 PM] Matr0x: you want 50 then 50 , right ?
[3/31/2013 3:52:27 PM] Jon Fister: yeah
[3/31/2013 3:52:37 PM] Jon Fister: do you have paypal?
[3/31/2013 3:52:43 PM] Jon Fister: I'll have to set up an account on moneybookres
[3/31/2013 3:52:55 PM] Matr0x: sorry i use only moneybookers
[3/31/2013 3:54:05 PM] Matr0x: will you do it ?
[3/31/2013 3:56:54 PM] Jon Fister: yeah
[3/31/2013 3:56:57 PM] Jon Fister: making an account now
[3/31/2013 3:58:08 PM] Matr0x: ok tell me when you are ready
[3/31/2013 4:15:36 PM] Matr0x: you are not done yet ?
[3/31/2013 4:18:29 PM] Jon Fister: this website is taking ages
[3/31/2013 4:18:29 PM] Jon Fister: lol
[3/31/2013 4:20:33 PM] Jon Fister: they're making me verify like 20 differetn wants
[3/31/2013 4:20:34 PM] Jon Fister: ways*
[3/31/2013 4:30:04 PM] Jon Fister: ok
[3/31/2013 4:30:04 PM] Jon Fister: set up
[3/31/2013 4:30:30 PM] Jon Fister: what's your email?
[3/31/2013 4:33:26 PM] Matr0x: [email protected]
[3/31/2013 4:33:33 PM] Matr0x: my name is Vladislav Tanev
[3/31/2013 4:36:05 PM] Jon Fister: sent
[3/31/2013 4:36:30 PM] Jon Fister: what's the code?
[3/31/2013 4:45:06 PM] Jon Fister: Nudge
[3/31/2013 4:50:55 PM] Jon Fister: Nudge Nudge
[3/31/2013 5:42:25 PM] Jon Fister: Hey you there?
[3/31/2013 5:54:02 PM] Jon Fister: helloooooooooooooooooooooo
[3/31/2013 7:36:42 PM] Jon Fister: ......
[3/31/2013 8:37:51 PM] Matr0x: hey
[3/31/2013 8:43:43 PM] Matr0x: i found a guy who tell me to not give you the code , becouse you will not sned me another part of the money , he told me that this is common method or scam and i will sell my code for only first 50 , after that you will not going to send me another part of the money . So if you want the code i will give it right away , but not before i get another 50 . If you declince i will return your 1st payment
[3/31/2013 8:43:59 PM] Jon Fister: wtf
[3/31/2013 8:44:00 PM] Jon Fister: no
[3/31/2013 8:44:02 PM] Jon Fister: that's bull****
[3/31/2013 8:44:06 PM] Jon Fister: you're scamming me
[3/31/2013 8:44:13 PM] Matr0x: ok i will give you r money back
[3/31/2013 8:44:20 PM] Jon Fister: ok
[3/31/2013 8:44:35 PM] Jon Fister: if I screenshot
[3/31/2013 8:44:38 PM] Jon Fister: the money in my account
[3/31/2013 8:44:54 PM] Jon Fister: would that be believable?
[3/31/2013 8:44:59 PM] Jon Fister: I added the full 100 in yesterday
[3/31/2013 8:45:09 PM] Matr0x: no man , i can send you whatever screenshots you like
[3/31/2013 8:45:21 PM] Matr0x: ill just give you back your money
[3/31/2013 8:45:38 PM] Matr0x: and i have 1 guy who will send me all money at once
[3/31/2013 8:47:29 PM] Jon Fister: ok
[3/31/2013 8:47:32 PM] Jon Fister: that works out
[3/31/2013 8:47:55 PM] Matr0x: so you want your money back
[3/31/2013 8:47:58 PM] Matr0x: tell me your names
[3/31/2013 8:48:06 PM] Matr0x: so i can send them
[3/31/2013 8:48:48 PM] Jon Fister: Jon Fister
[3/31/2013 8:48:52 PM] Jon Fister: [email protected]
[3/31/2013 8:49:05 PM] Matr0x: ok
[3/31/2013 8:49:37 PM] Matr0x: so last call you dont want the code?
[3/31/2013 8:52:51 PM] Jon Fister: I'm worried that you're going to ignore me when I send the 100
[3/31/2013 8:52:53 PM] Jon Fister: and not give me the code
[3/31/2013 8:52:57 PM] Matr0x: lol
[3/31/2013 8:53:02 PM] Matr0x: i didnt ignore you till now
[3/31/2013 8:53:12 PM] Matr0x: ive just want to get rid of that useless for me
[3/31/2013 8:53:17 PM] Matr0x: ive spend 155 for it
[3/31/2013 8:53:28 PM] Matr0x: and after that i realyze that i cant use it
[3/31/2013 8:53:35 PM] Matr0x: coz its for North Amerika
[3/31/2013 8:53:40 PM] Matr0x: yeah whatever
[3/31/2013 8:54:12 PM] Jon Fister: Ok
[3/31/2013 8:54:29 PM] Jon Fister: I guess I have the transaction code
[3/31/2013 8:54:37 PM] Jon Fister: so I can reverse it if you don't give me the TF code
[3/31/2013 8:54:42 PM] Jon Fister: I'll send the money now
[3/31/2013 8:54:59 PM] Jon Fister: you have the code with you?
[3/31/2013 8:55:12 PM] Matr0x: ok ill right the TF code right away and ill wait to pressing enter
[3/31/2013 8:57:02 PM] Jon Fister: I'll do it when this game finishes
[3/31/2013 8:57:07 PM] Jon Fister: almost overunless we throw it
[3/31/2013 8:57:08 PM] Jon Fister: lol
[3/31/2013 8:57:19 PM] Matr0x: im here
[3/31/2013 9:05:11 PM] Jon Fister: ok
[3/31/2013 9:05:13 PM] Jon Fister: you here now?
[3/31/2013 9:05:40 PM] Matr0x: lol the another guy told me " cmon men " dont give the code to another , ill send you all money right away
[3/31/2013 9:05:49 PM] Matr0x: and i told him i promised to you already
[3/31/2013 9:05:52 PM] Jon Fister: your name again?
[3/31/2013 9:05:57 PM] Matr0x: Vladislav Tanev
[3/31/2013 9:06:07 PM] Matr0x: you are nice person dude
[3/31/2013 9:06:31 PM] Matr0x: ive loosing like 50 USD but at least someone can use this fukin code
[3/31/2013 9:06:50 PM] Matr0x: wish you good play with that crz Twisted Fate
[3/31/2013 9:07:07 PM] Jon Fister: Atelast you're getting Australian $
[3/31/2013 9:07:11 PM] Jon Fister: our money is worth more than American
[3/31/2013 9:07:20 PM] Jon Fister: ^_^
[3/31/2013 9:07:28 PM] Matr0x: wiat
[3/31/2013 9:07:31 PM] Matr0x: here the code
[3/31/2013 9:08:19 PM] Matr0x: R 7 V 6 7 X 6 A L Q 7 G and check that L can be an I
[3/31/2013 9:08:27 PM] Matr0x: wish you best
[3/31/2013 9:08:46 PM] Jon Fister: bro
[3/31/2013 9:08:50 PM] Jon Fister: it's already been used
[3/31/2013 9:10:34 PM] Jon Fister: The code has already been used here
[3/31/2013 9:12:06 PM] Jon Fister: Are you going to respond or?
[3/31/2013 9:25:29 PM] Jon Fister: Sorcerak
[3/31/2013 10:52:46 PM] Jon Fister: Ok dude I knew it

Pictures/Screenshots:
Skype log proof: http://i.imgur.com/aFdfslJ.png
Personal Message proof: http://i.imgur.com/7vUB2EK.png
Other proof:
I've even found the guys facebook, youtube, myspace, everything.

 

[EpicNPC]

How do I know you didn't just use it and are trying to get your money back?

Please contact Riot Support and ask them for the date the code was used. There's no way for me to know who's lying otherwise.

 

[lolbg]

Banned - scammer - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/509088-lolgb-took-%24100-me-fake-code-trying-scam-another-person.html

Ive buy the code from a guy from e-bay
He told me the code is working .
Now i give the code to this guy , he send me the money .
HOW THE HELL CAN I KNOW WHO LIEING NOW ?
Maybe this NORAK just used it , or give it to another person to use it.
Or maybe its a real fake code , but im sure in the guy , who sell it to me.
I never told you that i have proofs for that code , i just tell you that im preaty sure its working , and that riot tell us the code is working still .
Now you reedem the code and want your money back
well i dont care , you cant convince me that you aint used it , so i must give you back your money !
epicnpc , decide whatever you think is right !

 

[EpicNPC]

Norak you can leave lolbg a neg feedback, he will then have to prove the code was used the same date he sold it to you.

 

[Norak]

Information
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Dispute Date: March 30, 2013
Method of Contact Used: epicnpc, skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Sorcerak (skype)
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: lolbg
Your Instant Messenger ID: Jon Fister (xxnorakuxx) Don't judge, I made it when I was like 15

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
######################
What is the dispute about? Money
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/league-legen...-***-pax-twisted-fate-***-code-exclusive.html
Approximate value of property: $100 USD

Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
He said he would sell me the Pax TF skin for $100, I payed and he gave me a code which had already been used. Then he stopped responding to me on skype.

Other details / notes:
He's pretending that I tried to scam him, so he can scam more people.

Proof
######################
You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
Pictures/Screenshots:
Skype log proof: http://i.imgur.com/aFdfslJ.png
Personal Message proof: http://i.imgur.com/7vUB2EK.png
Other proof:
I've even found the guys facebook, youtube, myspace, everything.

[EDIT] More to add:

WT* ? He didnt even pay me , ive didnt give them the code. He wanted to give him the code before he pays me , then said if i dont give him the code before he pays me he will write everyone im a scammer !
Jesus !
Proove your words !!!

BuMp
Code is still for sale !

The code is sold to that guy , and he used it !

The moron contradicts himself in his own thread.

Also more pictures of the code not working:

Already sent the money: http://i.imgur.com/eSE9VxC.png
Typed code in: http://i.imgur.com/Vi4AYZ4.jpg
It's already been redeemed: http://i.imgur.com/c35Gbli.png
Skin is clearly no in my account (if you play LoL you'll understand): http://i.imgur.com/D0B0lD8.jpg

He could claim that I used it on another account but 1: Why would I use it on another account, the account you can see there is Norak, with over 2700 wins on it. and 2: I've sent a support ticket into Riot, the game company, asking when and who redeemed the skin so we can find out exactly who this guy originally sold it to or if he used it for himself.

 

[lolbg]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - scammer - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/509088-lolgb-took-%24100-me-fake-code-trying-scam-another-person.html

[EDIT] More to add:
Quote Originally Posted by lolbg View Post
WT* ? He didnt even pay me , ive didnt give them the code. He wanted to give him the code before he pays me , then said if i dont give him the code before he pays me he will write everyone im a scammer !
Jesus !
Proove your words !!!

BuMp
Code is still for sale !


Ive tought this is another guy who do exactly same steps like i write there.
and at second post :
Quote Originally Posted by lolbg View Post
The code is sold to that guy , and he used it !

I give him the code and he used it after that


And if you dont stop threat me im going to sue you for that !
You threat me that you will worry my friends , after all you didnt even find me on facebook but whatever ....
When you tell someone - "im going to kill you" and the guy dies at next day thats make you a killer , you know that ?
So please stop threat me , lets just know if this code is fake or you just used it , like i think you do !
And dont insult me eather please , be a grow man !

 

[Norak]

Norak you can leave lolbg a neg feedback, he will then have to prove the code was used the same date he sold it to you.

Wow you were quick to reply.
Sorry, new to this place. I'll try to figure out how to leave neg feedback.
Just waiting on Riot response now.

In the quotes I gave you can see I mentioned I was scammed -before- he said they were still on sale and I've got more skype conversation where he says he was talking to someone else when he said "he wanted skin before he payed". The guy is contradicting himself constantly.

 

[EpicNPC]

Via PM at 3:53 am Norak sent you payment.

5:32 am

wasted time again ....
Still for sale

8:01 am

WT* ? He didnt even pay me , ive didnt give them the code. He wanted to give him the code before he pays me , then said if i dont give him the code before he pays me he will write everyone im a scammer !

10:22 am

Now i give the code to this guy , he send me the money .
HOW THE HELL CAN I KNOW WHO LIEING NOW ?
Maybe this NORAK just used it , or give it to another person to use it.

So at 3:53 you got payment, then posted less than 2 hrs later that the sale fell through and the code is still for sale. at 8:01 you again confirmed you never got payment and it's still for sale. Then all of a sudden at 10:22 you change your entire story and did give him the code, but he's scamming you.

lolbg is banned for scamming and lying.

You can get unbanned once Norak confirms a refund or he received a working code.