Arkengate brought a very valid point to mind.
WALL OF TEXT INCOMING.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">Valendred (6:35:33 PM): Yo, you foxman123400?
arkengate321 (6:46:01 PM): Why do you ask?
Valendred (6:46:19 PM): He's a friend a'mine, haven't talked to him in a few days but his archmages account name was Arkengate.
arkengate321 (6:46:32 PM): And your name would be ?
Valendred (6:46:48 PM): James, he knows me better as the guy who wants his AM, xP
arkengate321 (6:46:54 PM): Yes my Archmage's name is Palidos.
Valendred (6:47:03 PM): Yeah, uhh, you don't remember me?
arkengate321 (6:47:10 PM): Yes I do but I didnt reckognize the SN at first.
arkengate321 (6:47:12 PM): How have you been?
Valendred (6:47:21 PM): Pretty good, been lookin to drop this damn marauder still xP
arkengate321 (6:47:27 PM): Dang.
Valendred (6:47:30 PM): got 8 invader crests.
arkengate321 (6:47:31 PM): Im selling my archmage I think.
arkengate321 (6:47:36 PM): Hes got full Warlord now.
Valendred (6:47:37 PM): I"m even willing to include an xbox live time card xP
Valendred (6:47:42 PM): That's hawt.
Valendred (6:47:44 PM): I'm in a rank 40 guild
arkengate321 (6:47:48 PM): Nice.
arkengate321 (6:47:50 PM): Were rank 35
Valendred (6:47:55 PM): Character still sucks =/
Valendred (6:47:58 PM): gimmealluram.
Valendred (6:48:12 PM): I could give you an xbox live account, 10k gamerscore, 30 skill in halo 3 xP
arkengate321 (6:48:27 PM): Or... You could get me game time card for my other WAR account
Valendred (6:48:35 PM): And what would I get for that?
arkengate321 (6:48:55 PM): I dont know what would you buy the AM for?
Valendred (6:49:00 PM): no cash at the moment
Valendred (6:49:06 PM): had to buy a new hdd mobo and network card
arkengate321 (6:49:10 PM): Ahh so you cant get gametime card then
arkengate321 (6:49:11 PM): can ya?
Valendred (6:49:14 PM): I could trade for one
arkengate321 (6:49:21 PM): Ok so how about Gametime card and
arkengate321 (6:49:26 PM): Xbox Live acct
Valendred (6:49:34 PM): For the AM?
arkengate321 (6:49:45 PM): Yeah im rerolling destro anyways.
Valendred (6:49:51 PM): my Marauder is destro o.o
Valendred (6:50:00 PM): Dark Crag.
arkengate321 (6:50:03 PM): Hmm
Valendred (6:50:12 PM): rank 40 guild, Usual Suspects, 8 invader crests
Valendred (6:50:17 PM): 4/5 anni, could get 5/5
Valendred (6:50:20 PM): 40/38
Valendred (6:50:28 PM): 1/5 bloodlord, use the shoulders instead of annihilator for looks.
Valendred (6:50:40 PM): orvr belt and ring, city defense ring
Valendred (6:50:45 PM): time till august
arkengate321 (6:50:53 PM): Yeah how about Mara + Gametime card?
Valendred (6:50:54 PM): Gamestop preorder reward.
Valendred (6:51:01 PM): That works much better for me, 30 day okay?
arkengate321 (6:51:05 PM): 60day
Valendred (6:51:10 PM): [censored], don't know if I can get one of those.
arkengate321 (6:51:11 PM): Full Warlord.
Valendred (6:51:17 PM): Was going to try and trade the 1month live for it.
arkengate321 (6:51:19 PM): Just get 2 30 day.
Valendred (6:51:31 PM): Could i give you the 1 month live and a gw account?
Valendred (6:51:40 PM): GW has a max toon on it.
arkengate321 (6:51:53 PM): GW?
Valendred (6:51:56 PM): guild wars
arkengate321 (6:51:57 PM): Guildwars
arkengate321 (6:51:58 PM): my bad.
arkengate321 (6:51:59 PM): lol
Valendred (6:52:01 PM): 3/4 expacs.
Valendred (6:52:04 PM): Missin eotn
Valendred (6:52:09 PM): has Prophecies, Nightfall, Factions
Valendred (6:52:13 PM): and my marauder has professions
Valendred (6:52:27 PM): 200 cult/apoth
Valendred (6:52:36 PM): 10 shaman alt
arkengate321 (6:52:38 PM): Yeah I would just prefer the Mara + 60 Days gametime
Valendred (6:52:51 PM): Yeah, unfortunately I may have trouble getting that, i'm offering some strange [censored] xP
arkengate321 (6:54:09 PM): Well how about 1 gametime card now
arkengate321 (6:54:13 PM): then another when you can afford it.
Valendred (6:54:21 PM): Alright, i just gotta find someone to trade for it.
Valendred (6:54:27 PM): how long does the am have time for?
arkengate321 (6:54:35 PM): 2 months
arkengate321 (6:54:39 PM): thats why I wanted 60 days.
Valendred (6:54:40 PM): alright, that's fine then.
Valendred (6:54:48 PM): I will be able to get you another time card easily within that time frame.
Valendred (6:55:54 PM): Could i give you the gw and xbox time in place of 1 card now then buy another in like a month? ((My dad'll let me use his CC then))
arkengate321 (6:56:14 PM): nah
arkengate321 (6:56:23 PM): I need the gametime card for my destro account
Valendred (6:56:30 PM): [censored], I am having difficulty findin anyone who even has time cards.
Valendred (6:57:05 PM): lookin on MD nao.
Valendred (6:58:16 PM): i wish ther was a way to give time from one acc to another xP
arkengate321 (6:58:26 PM): Yeah that would be cool.
Valendred (6:58:33 PM): my mara has excess amounts of time.
arkengate321 (6:58:41 PM): :-(
Valendred (6:58:50 PM): I got it from a tmv verified guy btw.
Valendred (6:58:55 PM): hence why i have a tmv positive
Valendred (6:59:30 PM): Open Beta Provides access to the Open Beta Head Start Provides access to the Head Start GameStop Pre-Order Includes: Rittenbach's Portable Camp and Sentinel's Amber Band Reward: Email Validated Includes: Title - 'The Validated'
Valendred (6:59:31 PM): ;aw;/.
Valendred (6:59:32 PM): lawl
arkengate321 (6:59:40 PM): Well while you look for it Im going to go and grab a bite to eat.
Valendred (6:59:47 PM): alright, i'll text you if I find anythin.
arkengate321 (6:59:49 PM): Should be back shortly.
arkengate321 (7:00:02 PM): Just AIM me.
arkengate321 went idle at 7:24:57 PM
Valendred (7:29:08 PM): I may have a way to get time if you can wait 2 weeks or so...
Valendred (7:43:32 PM): comebaaack
arkengate321 (8:16:16 PM): Any luck?
Valendred (8:16:26 PM): no. heard you were a scammer though...
arkengate321 (8:16:33 PM): what?
arkengate321 (8:16:34 PM): lol
Valendred (8:16:42 PM): I called the guy who had palidos, the one i originally talked to
arkengate321 (8:17:02 PM): Actually the guy that you think is the original owner scammed me out of the account.
arkengate321 (8:17:07 PM): About 3 weeks ago.
arkengate321 (8:17:20 PM): After long attempts to get it back I finally got in touch with Mythic.
Valendred (8:17:20 PM): ah...
Valendred (8:17:23 PM): I see...
Valendred (8:17:32 PM): If you can wait two weeks, I can get time on the account with a CC.
arkengate321 (8:17:34 PM): He said he was a broker and would trade it for me.
Valendred (8:18:04 PM): Aha...
Valendred (8:19:24 PM): So, if I can put time on in two weeks, is tha tokay?
arkengate321 (8:19:53 PM): Yes.
arkengate321 (8:19:56 PM): But we will wait till then
arkengate321 (8:20:00 PM): to do trade.
Valendred (8:20:25 PM): can we not to marauder for AM, then i'll give you both a landline and a mobile phone that you can call at your leisure in two weeks?
arkengate321 (8:20:57 PM): Nah as you can tell been burned in the past
arkengate321 (8:21:02 PM): so kinda got to wait
Valendred (8:21:27 PM): but the fact is, you've got a scammer accusation against you/.
arkengate321 (8:22:11 PM): Not worried about it. I proved to mythic who was original owner. I even went to their HQ's, have a few friends who work for the company so everything is on the up and up.
arkengate321 (8:22:27 PM): Regardless I would rather wait until you can complete the full transaction before giving out the account info.
Valendred (8:22:30 PM): So where is the HQ anyway.?
arkengate321 (8:22:32 PM): You are free to believe what you want to.
arkengate321 (8:22:35 PM): Fairfax, VA
Valendred (8:22:42 PM): And can I ask what you're friends name are?
arkengate321 (8:23:22 PM): Chris.
Valendred (8:23:27 PM): Last name?
arkengate321 (8:23:35 PM): Would rather not put his info out there.
Valendred (8:23:58 PM): Is he an artist?
arkengate321 (8:24:03 PM): Nope
arkengate321 (8:24:07 PM): Q & A
Valendred (8:24:24 PM): There are 2 chris's on the warhammer team.
Valendred (8:24:28 PM): An artist and a content dev.
arkengate321 (8:25:22 PM): Oh really and how would you know that their are only 2 chris' that work for Mythic.
Valendred (8:25:51 PM): Valendred
6:47pm
Yeah, uhh, you don't remember me?
arkengate321
6:47pm
Yes I do but I didnt reckognize the SN at first.
How have you been?
Valendred (8:25:53 PM): strange too.
Valendred (8:25:59 PM): you acknowledged me as though you knew me.
Valendred (8:26:03 PM): And through the site my friend.
arkengate321 (8:26:40 PM): Guess youll have to figure out which one he is. His last name is Rose.
Valendred (8:26:49 PM): Neither.
arkengate321 (8:27:04 PM): Guess your site is wrong.
Valendred (8:27:10 PM): Chris Ondrus and Christ Behrens.
Valendred (8:27:14 PM): Sorry but it's the mythic site.
arkengate321 (8:27:41 PM): I doubt they list all their contracted employees.
Valendred (8:27:45 PM): I think I am going to take a pass on this, seems a bit fishy my friend.
Valendred (8:27:53 PM): Mainly because you acted as though you were the last owner.
Valendred (8:28:03 PM): Strange in my opinion.
arkengate321 (8:28:16 PM): I am the last owner. I was scammed out of the account by as I told you some idiot that lives in Nebraska and said he would broker the trade.
arkengate321 (8:28:20 PM): Hence why he is banned from MD .
arkengate321 (8:28:43 PM): And the reason I knew about you and Mara is for the simple fact because he told me thats what he was getting for the acct.
Valendred (8:28:52 PM): The one I was talking to is not banned. And he didn't know I had a marauder. I had a WH.
Valendred (8:29:06 PM): And we never agreed to trade,
arkengate321 (8:29:07 PM): RR 46 Mara correct?
Valendred (8:29:09 PM): Nope.
Valendred (8:29:19 PM): 38.
arkengate321 (8:29:21 PM): Hmm well thats what he told me he was getting for my account
arkengate321 (8:29:31 PM): and when i gave him my info he never gave me the mara.
Valendred (8:29:52 PM): He's not banned from MD.
arkengate321 (8:29:57 PM): Anyways thats your choice to pass. I appriciate your time and effort.
Valendred (8:29:58 PM): Perhaps we are talking about someone different?
arkengate321 (8:30:16 PM): His name was Archmage
arkengate321 (8:30:19 PM): or some [censored] like that on MD
Valendred (8:30:25 PM): Yeap, but he isn't banned.
Valendred (8:30:34 PM): Hell, he's a 5star now.
arkengate321 (8:32:12 PM): Archmage 911 was his user name
arkengate321 (8:32:16 PM): on MD
Valendred (8:32:34 PM): Different person.
Valendred (8:32:51 PM): No such user exists by the way.
arkengate321 (8:33:01 PM): That was his AIM name my friend.
Valendred (8:33:12 PM): No such name has been posted on MD. Ever.
Valendred (8:33:21 PM): Not by any baned users
arkengate321 (8:33:37 PM): Anyways Im not going to sit here and debate with you
arkengate321 (8:34:05 PM): Got better stuff to do like gaining renown ranks. And dont you think if I scammed I woulda picked something other than Arkengate
arkengate321 (8:34:07 PM): kinda stupid
arkengate321 (8:34:21 PM): Anyways best of luck to you man.
arkengate321 (8:35:09 PM): Hope you find what your looking for.

arkengate321 (9:07:32 PM): So you had a WH that you traded to Archmage?
arkengate321 (9:07:36 PM): Correct?
Valendred (9:07:38 PM): Nope.
Valendred (9:07:43 PM): Was going to trade it to him., never did.
arkengate321 (9:07:45 PM): What was your WH?
Valendred (9:07:47 PM): Talkin to him now, he's got a nice IB.
Valendred (9:07:57 PM): i'm on it, playin with his BW.
Valendred (9:08:02 PM): My WH was 40.28
arkengate321 (9:08:25 PM): Oh because he posted he was trading a WH figured it was yours.
Valendred (9:08:31 PM): nope
arkengate321 (9:08:32 PM): Trying to figure out whos bullshitting who here
Valendred (9:08:39 PM): I am?
arkengate321 (9:08:41 PM): whether your bullshitting me or hes bullshitting you.
Valendred (9:08:52 PM): He told me ya scammed him for his AM.
Valendred (9:08:55 PM): You told me he scammed you
arkengate321 (9:09:00 PM): Ahh alright.
arkengate321 (9:09:06 PM): Thought he said he was original owner.
Valendred (9:09:10 PM): No.
arkengate321 (9:09:37 PM): Anyways its whatever i thought you were looking for Destro
arkengate321 (9:09:46 PM): err nm thats right you want order
arkengate321 (9:09:47 PM): lol
Valendred (9:09:48 PM): Im mainly looking for order.
Valendred (9:09:49 PM): yeaaah xP
arkengate321 (9:09:51 PM): What guild are you in on DC?
Valendred (9:09:56 PM): Usual Suspects.
arkengate321 (9:09:59 PM): Ahh dont know em
arkengate321 (9:10:01 PM): Im in Hate.
Valendred (9:10:55 PM): i'm still intersted in your AM so yeah... if you still have it in two weeks, talk to me
arkengate321 (9:11:01 PM): I will.
arkengate321 (9:11:04 PM): If you get the IB let me know
arkengate321 (9:11:07 PM): Ill try to get you in Hate
arkengate321 (9:11:10 PM): R34 Guild.
arkengate321 (9:11:14 PM): Best alliance on DC
arkengate321 (9:20:56 PM): You liking the IB?
arkengate321 (9:20:56 PM): And why you quitting Destro?
arkengate321 (9:20:57 PM): Your in a R40 guild
arkengate321 (9:20:57 PM): why leave?
Valendred (9:22:56 PM): I hate destro on DC.
Valendred (9:22:58 PM): It's pointless.
Valendred (9:23:08 PM): We got roflstomped everything we do.
arkengate321 (9:23:12 PM): Nah
arkengate321 (9:23:16 PM): You own us in undercroft
arkengate321 (9:23:20 PM): cant flip IC cuz of it.
Valendred (9:23:29 PM): You can't flip IC because we always stop the PQ.
arkengate321 (9:23:31 PM): Its so bad that we made twink alts.
Valendred (9:23:34 PM): I've defended like 4 nights now.
arkengate321 (9:23:37 PM): PQ doesnt effect it.
Valendred (9:23:38 PM): We hate it just as much.
arkengate321 (9:23:41 PM): Its Undercroft.
Valendred (9:23:43 PM): PQ is most of IC's control.
Valendred (9:23:46 PM): Undercroft=30%.
arkengate321 (9:23:49 PM): Nah if we own you in UC
Valendred (9:23:50 PM): You lose PQ, you can't get IC regardles.
arkengate321 (9:23:56 PM): and just hold the PQ so it doesnt flip
arkengate321 (9:23:58 PM): we can stage 2.
Valendred (9:24:08 PM): We always win stage 2 though, unless we fail hardcore.
Valendred (9:24:19 PM): I just hate it.
Valendred (9:24:25 PM): Been playin since launch, never once attacked altdorf.
Valendred (9:24:30 PM): Every.
Valendred (9:24:31 PM): Single.
Valendred (9:24:32 PM): Night.
Valendred (9:24:34 PM): You guys are in IC.
Valendred (9:24:42 PM): Playing for the losing team sucks.
arkengate321 (9:24:43 PM): Ahh.
arkengate321 (9:24:52 PM): Yeah its why I siwtched to order long ago.
arkengate321 (9:26:05 PM): So how you liking the IB
Valendred (9:26:29 PM): It's alright.
Valendred (9:26:34 PM): Tankin isn't exactly my style.
arkengate321 (9:26:37 PM): Theyre so oped
arkengate321 (9:26:39 PM): with a good 2h
Valendred (9:26:45 PM): I'm aware.
arkengate321 (9:26:49 PM): Offensive WP + Offensive IB is oped as [censored].
Valendred (9:26:55 PM): I fight against them daily.
arkengate321 (9:30:09 PM): Just a heads up if your trading with that guy the account hes trading may not actually be his and you may lose it.
Valendred (9:30:21 PM): then i just take mine back
arkengate321 (9:30:26 PM): Kinda like whoever was on my account for the 9 days I couldnt get on it. I feel sorry for them but oh well.
Valendred (9:30:45 PM): he had it.
Valendred (9:30:51 PM): he was going to trade it to me probably
arkengate321 (9:31:05 PM): Well boy that woulda been [censored] for ya
arkengate321 (9:31:20 PM): I dont know who was on it. They just told me it was someone with Birds and was whiney and they knew it wasnt me so they gkicked him.
Valendred (9:31:42 PM): i dunno
arkengate321 (9:31:54 PM): When you talk to him on phone do you hear birds?
arkengate321 (9:32:00 PM): maybe it wasnt him with the account
Valendred (9:32:30 PM): i hear little whiney dogs
arkengate321 (9:32:47 PM): Unless they sound like birds it wasnt him.
Valendred (9:32:52 PM): they kinda do.
Valendred (9:32:53 PM): i dunno
arkengate321 (9:32:56 PM): lol
arkengate321 (9:32:58 PM): So whats the IB's name
Valendred (9:33:54 PM): tuffenuff
arkengate321 (9:40:06 PM): Whats his gear like?
arkengate321 signed off at 9:40:39 PM
arkengate321 signed on at 9:41:16 PM
Valendred (9:41:28 PM): decent
Valendred (9:41:32 PM): annihi, sent, nothin special
arkengate321 (10:50:36 PM):
http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2552386#Post2552386
arkengate321 (10:50:58 PM): Read how he claims he knows the original owner but in his post he says he is the original owner.
Valendred (10:51:19 PM): I do know he lied but I called arkngate, and was told the same story.
Valendred (10:51:31 PM): Arkngate verified the account name and quite a bit of information on it.
Valendred (10:51:47 PM): So I'm posting what i've gathered, prove it wrong and i'll edit the page.
arkengate321 (10:52:10 PM): How hard is it for him to get a friend to verify the information when I was the one who gave him the information.
arkengate321 (10:52:14 PM): Not that difficult.
arkengate321 (10:52:36 PM): See I havent lied, I was told that you were the one with Marauder by him
Valendred (10:52:50 PM): It was a Wh that I traded for a marauder that I did mention to him.
arkengate321 (10:53:25 PM): Well then I was confused maybe he was trading you his WH for Mara and giving me the Mara but either way he took my account infoa nd ran
arkengate321 (10:53:32 PM): If you would like to talk on the phone I would be more than willing.
arkengate321 (10:53:55 PM): I can verify everything that has to do with the account
Valendred (10:54:06 PM): Hrmm.
arkengate321 (10:54:23 PM): Im not afraid to see thats the thing I havent lied in any of my posts ora nything liek that.
Valendred (10:54:51 PM): Edited my post.
Valendred (10:54:56 PM):
EDIT: The marauder confusion is indeed plausible, because I did exchange my WH for a marauder in the middle of this situation. Arkengate has offered to verify all the information with the account and I shall see where this goes.
Valendred (10:55:23 PM): So, I'm waiting for Archmage to get back, you, him, and I can enter an AIM chat and discuss things from htere.
Valendred (10:55:25 PM): there*
arkengate321 (10:55:49 PM): Sure and I could even if you wanted me to prove it that bad drive the 3 hours to Milford.
arkengate321 (10:55:54 PM): and show you the account info.
Valendred (10:56:04 PM): What info could you physically show me?
arkengate321 (10:56:06 PM): Show you the CD key and everything.
arkengate321 (10:56:23 PM): Well first of all I could bring Chris with me and you could verify that he does indeed work for mythic.
Valendred (10:56:26 PM): Hmm. I don't know how I could verify that that CD key is the correct one.
Valendred (10:56:38 PM): Do you have the original account creation email?
Valendred (10:56:42 PM): Because that would clear all doubt.
arkengate321 (10:57:01 PM): Hmm I may have it I am not 100% sure. I would have to check my email when I get home. Currently I am at the Lan center in Fairfax
arkengate321 (10:57:10 PM): Internet cafe
arkengate321 (10:57:12 PM): whatever you call it.
arkengate321 (10:57:33 PM): And I didnt use your name in it because I didnt want you to get involved with all this BS
Valendred (10:57:41 PM): Well, when you get home, I'd like for you to check for that e-mail. And don't worry about it, I want to clear things up.
arkengate321 (10:57:56 PM): Well I appriciate that.
arkengate321 (10:58:07 PM): I am sorry why do you ahve to use your dads CC
arkengate321 (10:58:12 PM): to buy gametime
Valendred (10:58:13 PM): I myself am going to go to sleep soon. I am getting that IB from archmage, and if he scams me, I've got all the info to the marauder, and because I'm only 15.
arkengate321 (10:58:25 PM): They wont restore it.
Valendred (10:58:31 PM): I've had them restore three accounts in the past.
arkengate321 (10:58:33 PM): Really?
Valendred (10:58:36 PM): Yes.
arkengate321 (10:58:36 PM): How do you go about doing that?
arkengate321 (10:58:45 PM): I had to actually have Chris talk to Mario about it
Valendred (10:58:47 PM): Have the first CC number on the account, and the original info from registration.
arkengate321 (10:59:02 PM): Oh I just had them look at my CC for the payments
Valendred (10:59:05 PM): I'm still in contact with the OO of the marauder, so I could have him do it.
Valendred (10:59:08 PM): That works as well.
Valendred (10:59:18 PM): If someone calls with a CC used after yours, they will not turn the account over.
arkengate321 (10:59:18 PM): But see if he was the owner the account wouldve been restored already.
arkengate321 (10:59:40 PM): I thought you were original owner of Mara
Valendred (10:59:55 PM): I'm not.
Valendred (11:00:00 PM): And I'm going to post this entire aim log.
arkengate321 (11:00:10 PM): Thats fine with me as I said I have nothing to hide.
arkengate321 (11:00:13 PM): I am the original owner.</div></div></div>
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