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Trade Guardian Orders: 367

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Date that sale/trade took place: Feb.9th 2013
Method of Contact Used: skype
Instant Messenger ID of other party: Spacerider
Your Instant Messenger ID: SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey(unmergedwowacc)
MMOBay Account of other party: none
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Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? an eu 50+ months paid old unmerged wow acc
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-euro-acc...vl-80-boost%7Ceu-exclusively-old-limited.html
Approximate value of property: $68 USD

Was a middleman used?: no
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong: we have confirmed the wow acc is valid and not merged before he got it,5 mins later he kept saying acc is invalid then we checked again and it says the acc merged already.which is he merged it.
Other details / notes:
we have sold thousands of unmerged wow accs,never or ever had anyone met this case, all were confirmed before delivery then the buyers merged successfully.After a unhappy talk i request to login his bnet acc management to confirm the truth that he didnt have the acc merged on his acc,and if confirmed i would offer to merge a new wow acc to merge to his bnet acc by myself to avoid any more case happened just incase. he refused to have it.and opened dispute on paypal and left negative feedbak for me without any negotiation,and blocked me on skype.

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this is the whole conversation on skype:
[9:37:00] Spacerider: Hi SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey, I'd like to add you as a contact. Spacerider
[9:37:41] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey has shared contact details with Spacerider.
[9:37:44] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: hi how may i help you?
where did you see my thread? did you post a reply there? whats your forum acc name?
[9:38:17] Spacerider: hey il log in epic npc now saw your add there for unmerged accounts
[9:38:29] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i see
[9:38:34] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: do you want us or eu wow acc?
[9:38:38] Spacerider: eu
[9:39:19] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: 15 euros/20$
[9:39:27] Spacerider: im just wondering with the = 50+ months= 50€ / 150k gold>>>>>>>very hot selling!!! how do you know they are over 50 months old?
[9:39:52] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: logged on old acc management and checked the history
[9:40:25] Spacerider: as i bought a unmerged account from pr3cious a couple of months ago and it has nothing on it heh
[9:40:36] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: yes same here
[9:40:45] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we are not promising you anything
[9:40:52] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: like we said on thread,all up to lucky bet
[9:41:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you might get something good or nothing at all
[9:41:19] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: simply the higher months paid the higher chance for lucky bet
[9:41:31] Spacerider: yeah
[9:41:44] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: just several months paid acc doesnt make sense to have any rare stuffs you know
[9:41:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so its lucky bet
[9:45:01] Spacerider: what payment do you accept?
[9:45:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: paypal
[9:45:59] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: is your paypal acc verified?
[9:46:50] Spacerider: i don't have a paypal account i think last time precious sent me an invoice from there paypal to my email and i paid it straight away ?
[9:47:50] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i can do paypal or wow gold only
[9:47:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: and cant do invoice
[9:48:52] Spacerider: paypal then ?
[9:48:55] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: yes
[9:49:22] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: are you repped on epicnpc?
[9:49:37] Spacerider: il check i may have a few of them
[9:50:18] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-euro-acc...80-boost%7Ceu-exclusively-old-limited-35.html
[9:50:22] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: make a post so that i can see it
[9:50:40] Spacerider: ok
[9:54:04] Spacerider: my username is kyunga i bumped your thread
[9:54:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i see
[9:54:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so you dont have a paypal acc?
[9:55:41] Spacerider: hmm no but ive paid for plenty of stuff on the internet without paypal account.
[9:56:05] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i dont know how to send payment to me without paypal acc
[9:57:39] Spacerider: hmm is there not a link you can make to request payment ? or is there a request money link/tab ?
[9:58:05] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: no
[9:58:14] Spacerider: oh
[9:58:24] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i think you can creat a paypal acc easily?
[9:58:36] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i can wait for you anytime
[9:58:38] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: no rush
[9:59:09] Spacerider: whats your paypay email i may be able to send you the 50 euro this way im on paypal site now
[9:59:15] Spacerider: paypal*
[10:00:15] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: ok 68$ USD(50 euros),just send USD if you can,since its my main currency and i can get instantly my paypal acc is ********@gmail.com
[10:02:12] Spacerider: that would be 51 euro then? as 1 euro = 1.34 usd
[10:03:13] Spacerider: never mind 68 dollar lol
[10:03:41] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: ok
[10:03:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: paypal will take extra fees for you and me as well
[10:05:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: tell me when done
[10:05:59] Spacerider: ok
[10:14:18] Spacerider: ok seems i have a to create paypal account and transfer some money from my other account to main account and my internet banking is down, mind if we do this tomorrow evening? will you be around ?
[10:14:33] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: yes sure if you like
[10:14:59] Spacerider: ok cool
[10:15:08] Spacerider: sorry about wasting your time
[10:16:12] Spacerider: hmm is there a tab for making a donation to you ? maybe that could work?
[10:17:40] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sorry i cant do that
[10:28:10] Spacerider: hmm you there?
[10:28:42] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: yeah
[10:29:01] Spacerider: ive made a paypal account but im unverified does that matter?
[10:29:26] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: ok since you have 1 rep on epicnpc
[10:35:13] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: any problem?
[10:35:44] Spacerider: sec says i need to verify my phone number
[10:36:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: k
[10:41:15] Spacerider: ok payment has been sent
[10:41:32] Spacerider: ben, you have sent $68.00 USD to 玲 李.
[10:41:35] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: whats your paypal acc?
[10:41:51] Spacerider:*******@hotmail.co.uk
[10:42:12] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i have sent an email from my paypal acc email to yours,plz reply the questions to confirm your identity ASAP.
since its your first time buying wow acc from me.next time we can skip it for fast delivery.
[10:44:20] Spacerider: you want me to reply with the answer yes?
[10:44:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: yes reply them in email
[10:46:37] Spacerider: ok i sent the email
[10:47:47] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey:
Just got your payment confirmed,here is your Unmerged wow acc info(it has been confirmed before you get it),
plz merge to your bnet acc and do SOR asap:

wow account name =****
wow account password =*****
[10:48:06] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: Steps for Merge wow acc and SOR:
1,merge the wow acc to your own bnet acc or a new bnet acc,do not claim trial expasion or free gametime.
2.login your other wow acc or ask your friend to send SOR invitation to your bnet acc email which merged the wow acc.
3,login your bnet acc email inbox and wait around 10-30 mins to receive the SOR invitation and accept it.
4,follow the invitation to Claim SOR reward and enjoy game.

Important Notice:
1*Remember not to claim any free trial or gametime to active the acc before you got SOR worked or you can’t get the rewards, Some idiot had a try and wasted the SOR eligibility ! its your responsibility if you wasted it!

2*Before you boost the lvl 80 you can review what chars existed on the acc by "paid chars transfer" under acc management, if you dont like any of them for lvl 80 boosting then skip to claim rewards and login game to create a new char on the realm/faction you like,after that login back to SOR rewards received history to boosted it to lvl 80.

3*You can transfer the the boosted 80 to your main acc under bnet"paid chars transfer"service (25$ each char)as long you as you make same name on the battle.net you merge the account with as your main account .
[10:48:20] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: when you are dome,plz post your feedback for me,your feedback is very important for me,i will aways try my best to give you best servie.
welcome to buy again anytime!
UNmerged WoW Account
[10:54:11] Spacerider: hmm i have a problem it says this when i try to merge accounts
[10:54:14] Spacerider: An error has occurred.
Your login was invalid. Please try again.
[10:55:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: its eu wow acc
[10:55:10] Spacerider: yes
[10:55:15] Spacerider: im eu too :)
[10:55:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we have confirmed its valid before sent you
[10:55:59] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: now it says its merged alreayd
[10:56:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: Please log in with your associated Battle.net account.
[10:56:12] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: plz log out and relogin your bnet acc
[10:56:15] Spacerider: its not merged with my wow account :/
[10:56:20] Spacerider: ok il try that
[10:56:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you might merged it already and just crashed by error
[10:56:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: keep in mind we will never or ever give any merged already or invalid acc to any customer
[10:57:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: confirm the acc to make sure it works before you get it is must
[10:57:33] Spacerider: its not connected to my wow account :(
[10:58:37] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: how come it be
[10:59:01] Spacerider: it keeps saying your log in is invalid
[10:59:36] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: its does no matter to try to merge it agian
[10:59:46] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: simply the acc has been merged already after we sent you
[11:00:05] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you cant try to merge an account after it merged already
[11:00:13] Spacerider: i haven't merged it
[11:00:31] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: then who did it?
[11:00:41] Spacerider: you tell me.
[11:00:47] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i told you that we confirmed it before you got it
[11:01:02] Spacerider: well you have made mistake,
[11:01:09] Spacerider: who has the account?
[11:01:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we have took care of all accs in stock
[11:01:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: once acc is sold we deleted data
[11:02:06] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: no one had this acc except you
[11:02:14] Spacerider: well i don't have it?
[11:02:23] *** SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey sent IMG_09022013_110223.png ***
[11:02:35] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: check your bnet acc it would show up on the accounts list
[11:02:37] Spacerider: it has not been merged with my wow account il send you screen shot if you want?
[11:03:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: lol its useless to show me
[11:03:16] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: seriously? you think we will send you a merged wow acc to scam you?
[11:03:32] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we are trusted with most reps on the market,its not first time selling this
[11:03:38] Spacerider: that is a us account lol
[11:03:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: its for example
[11:04:07] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: to show you where you can see the acc merged on your bnet acc
[11:04:32] Spacerider: so i have sent you 68 dollars for nothing....
[11:04:44] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: before you got the acc we logged on old acc management to confirm the wow acc is valid and not merged, after you got the acc 5 mins later you said its not working so i tried to confirm and says its merged.
[11:05:03] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so tell me how can i trust you are not the one who didnt merge it?
[11:05:05] Spacerider: i did not merge it :(
[11:05:43] Spacerider: why would i go to this trouble to scam you after i sent u message in paypal i will not chargeback etc
[11:05:46] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we have sold thousands of wow accs so far, never or ever will make such mistake
[11:06:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: why should we scam a customer like this?
[11:06:18] Spacerider: i havent got the account.....
[11:07:29] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i have sent you the valid ac.....
[11:07:44] Spacerider: im really annoyed
[11:09:01] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you cant do this to threten us to give you more wow acc man
[11:09:07] Spacerider: how can i prove that i don't have account
[11:09:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: [11:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey:

<<< before you got the acc we logged on old acc management to confirm the wow acc is valid and not merged, after you got the acc 5 mins later you said its not working so i tried to confirm and says its merged.
[11:09:17] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: this is the truth
[11:09:29] Spacerider: im telling you the truth.
[11:09:48] Spacerider: the account details do not work, i have not merged this account with my battlenet.
[11:10:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: whats yor bnet acc email/pasword?
[11:10:11] Spacerider: why would i give you that ..
[11:10:22] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: why shouldnt i login to check?
[11:11:20] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: what are you scaring?
[11:11:21] Spacerider: i can show you screen shot
[11:11:27] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: trying to hide truth?
[11:11:29] Spacerider: i have autenticator on my account
[11:11:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we are trusted with more than 200 reps and epicnpc verified seller
[11:12:09] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: your wow acc is useless to us
[11:12:12] Spacerider: if you scamming me i will just contact bank in the morning and request a chargeback
[11:12:35] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: how to scam you?
[11:12:49] Spacerider: you gave me wrong account details!
[11:13:08] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: once again i gave you correct wow acc info which is not merged at all
[11:13:32] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i will login the bnet acc to check the truth
[11:13:42] Spacerider: well it invalid details when i received them.
[11:13:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: if you cant even offer the confirmation you are basicly not serious and trying to hide
[11:14:06] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you can keep trolling
[11:14:34] Spacerider: thanks for stealing my money
[11:14:46] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: if you want to solve this and get helped you have to show up your cooperation
[11:15:07] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: im giving you help you refuse it
[11:15:28] Spacerider: i said il show you screen shots of my accounts on battlenet
[11:15:33] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: if i confirm you really dont have the acc there i will think about a new acc instead
[11:15:38] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: which is losing money
[11:15:52] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: screenshot is useless
[11:16:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: are you stupid ? i will merge the wow acc by myself only
[11:16:02] Spacerider: why'?
[11:16:16] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: incase you ****ed it up and threaten for new acc again
[11:16:45] Spacerider: i have merged previos accounts in past so i cannot **** it up as you say.
[11:16:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so come on let me login the ****ing stupid bnet acc management to confirm the truth and merge a new acc if possible
[11:17:09] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i can give you a ****ing new acc again and you will called its merged already again
[11:17:34] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: this is the worst idea to scam new acc
[11:17:53] Spacerider: i already have 2 accounts why would i want to scam another one :(
[11:18:09] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: scammer is very skilled
[11:18:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: idk
[11:18:12] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: whatever
[11:18:17] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you make your choice
[11:18:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i will not send you a new acc info again
[11:18:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: only way is i merge it for you only
[11:18:38] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: incase you ****ed it up to say its merged again
[11:20:06] Spacerider: i should have bought from pr3cious at leaast i got an account from them
[11:20:24] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i shouldnt sell the acc to you
[11:20:38] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sold so many wow accs,never met this
[11:20:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: before you got it we confirmed its all good and send you
[11:21:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: once you got it mins later you said not working
[11:21:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: this never or ever happened to us
[11:21:39] Spacerider: well i don't know what to say its not working for me :(
[11:21:42] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we are very carefull of this so we confirm acc before customer get it
[11:21:45] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: same for all customers
[11:21:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: even returning customer
[11:21:56] Spacerider: you don't understand how annoyed i am
[11:22:08] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: same
[11:22:08] Spacerider: ive just sent you money for nothing
[11:22:24] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we have gave a valid acc
[11:22:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we have cost on each acc
[11:22:48] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so you want a new acc instead?
[11:22:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: 68$ for 2 accs?
[11:23:00] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we are losing big
[11:23:08] Spacerider: ~:(
[11:23:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: try to find out the direct reason at yourself
[11:24:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: there's no chance to be a invalid acc or merged wow acc already
[11:24:29] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: the only thing can happen is you merged it to your bnet acc and you messed it up
[11:24:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: may be you have several bnet accs you messed up which acc you did
[11:25:09] Spacerider: i have never scammed anyone.. people have scammed me but i always get my money back.
[11:25:27] Spacerider: i have only one battlenet account
[11:25:42] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: or you merged it ad bnet site show you an error and you think it doesnt merge sucessfully so you tried to merge it again and said merged already,its actually merged , you have to log out and relogin your bnet acc acc management to refresh it,
[11:25:46] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so check it
[11:25:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: dong ignore what i said
[11:26:06] Spacerider: i have double and tripl checked my account but it didnt work said login details were invalid the first time i tried
[11:27:20] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: ok **** myself today
[11:27:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: bad ****ing luck losing our money and benefit
[11:27:34] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: 68$ for 2 accs
[11:27:46] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: give me your bnet acc to login to merge it by myself
[11:27:52] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: this is the only way
[11:28:09] Spacerider: sorry but my main account is very expensive to me
[11:28:19] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: your wow acc is useless to me
[11:28:31] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: im logging bnet acc to merge the acc for you
[11:28:43] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: hurry up
[11:28:49] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i have to go for lunch soon
[11:29:04] Spacerider: no sorry i can't do that i have over 1 mill gold on account
[11:29:28] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: ok im taking this as lying to scam more wow acc from me
[11:29:55] Spacerider: ok il be making chargeback with bank tomorow thanks for scamming me
[11:30:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: thanks for cheating us here
[11:30:21] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you are refusing to get this resolved as well
[11:31:31] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i really want to help you out and lose mony
[11:31:44] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: **** myself 68$ for 2 accs is killing me
[11:32:03] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you refuse to have the new acc merge for you its not my problem
[11:32:18] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: all my other customers were all good and never had any problem except you
[11:32:26] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: anyway im afk for lunch now
[11:33:46] Spacerider: dispute made on paypal as well.
[11:53:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: this is how to resolve it?
[11:56:17] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: thanks very much to scam us
At this moment he blocked me on skype

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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade? no
Have you traded with this person before? no
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBay? at least 1000 or more
 
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please provide proof i have blocked you on skype.. chinese scammers are always the same.

sure you said you went offline, can block and unblock me whenever you want.like we just told you on skype offered you a friendly way to solve it.

this is the further conversation just happened:
[18:32:16] Spacerider: **** off scammer
[18:42:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: huh?
[18:43:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you blocked me
[18:43:04] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i emailed and pmed you
[18:43:35] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you also left me negative feedback without any negotiation
[18:45:19] Spacerider: i pm'd you back didnt receive email
[18:45:28] Spacerider: i went to bed :/
[18:46:25] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i wish you negotiated with me before you making it worse
[18:46:55] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: whatever, before negative removed and paypal dispute solved we cant do anything
[18:47:09] Spacerider: tbh i don't really care about the money its only 68 dollars
[18:47:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: idc what you think,we just didnt mean to scam you.this never or ever will be our purpose
[18:48:58] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: after paypal solved the dispute and you pmed moderator removed your negative feedback we may offer you a new acc
[18:49:29] Spacerider: i don't trust you
[18:49:40] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sure you can
[18:51:28] Spacerider: why don't you give me new account info now, then i will cancel dispute, and give you positive feedback.
[18:52:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: its does no matter to postive feedback
[18:52:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you have already left negative feedback
[18:52:35] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you cant remove it by yourself
[18:52:39] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: only moderator can do it
[18:52:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: and he will do it only if you ask him to do it
[18:53:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: and paypal is reviewing the dispute,you will need to contact paypal customer support to cancel it by them,you cant cancel it by yourself as well.
[18:54:36] Spacerider: Disputed Amount:
$68.00 USD
Status
This item not received dispute has been escalated to a claim.

We requested additional information from the seller about this transaction.

What happens next

The seller has been asked to respond by 19 Feb 2013. As soon as we hear from the seller, or if 19 Feb 2013 passes with no response from the seller, we'll review this case and email you with an update.

If you've resolved this problem, you can cancel this claim anytime.

If you received the item but it's different to what you expected, you can change your reason for this claim.
[18:55:08] Spacerider: If you've resolved this problem, you can cancel this claim anytime
[18:55:23] Spacerider: i can cancel claim now if i want to
[18:56:03] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: thats what paypal said at first
[18:56:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i have responsed to them already
[18:56:26] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: so they are reviewing it and will be update on 19 feb im afraid
[18:56:45] Spacerider: i have already spoke to paypal on phone and they said i can cancel claim if i reach decision with seller.
[18:57:16] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sure you got to remove the negative as well
[18:58:50] Spacerider: yes i will pm moderator to do so.
[18:59:18] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you need to pm moderator to remove the negative for me and cancel the dispute then i will send you the new wow acc info to merge it by yourself,i have no need to cheat you, i offered you that i logon your bnet acc to merge for you already but you refused, but now since we have the trouble,i dont care just send you wow acc info for you to merge it by yourself.
[18:59:29] Spacerider: i am sorry for this but this has happened to me before a couple of times where i thought i could trust the seller
[19:00:12] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i never had any negative except this,this is not expected as well.
[19:00:27] Spacerider: im not cancelling the dispute until i receive what i paid for!
[19:00:41] Spacerider: you have stole from me :(
[19:01:10] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: at least i offered to log on your bnet acc to merge it by myself that im serious,just cause i can make sure it merged successfully 100%,you just cant understand.
[19:01:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: im not stealing for you!
[19:01:45] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: if you dont cancel dispute i wont give you new acc.that way you can just win the dispute and leave me alone
[19:01:55] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i have learned same lesson
[19:01:59] Spacerider: you don't understand that i have 10x90 on my account with over 1 mill gold i don't trust you to give u my account info.
[19:02:42] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sure epicnpc verified member with 200+ reps is not trusted and will scam you.
[19:03:38] Spacerider: well you already have.
[19:03:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sure you can call it
[19:04:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: the truth is we confirmed the wow acc works fine before you got it ,same as how we do it for all other customers.
[19:04:36] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: but you said it doesn work after 5 mins sent you
[19:04:47] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: we dont know what happened behind
[19:05:12] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you can keep saying we scammed you.but its not the truth, thats not our purpose never or ever will be.
[19:06:11] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: at last we decided to take that acc as our loss,and merge a new acc for you to get this trouble away from us. you refused and turned for negative and dispute
[19:06:54] Spacerider: why don't i make a new battlenet account
[19:06:54] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: i dont care whats on your wow acc,its useless for me,i dont even play wow nor have a wow client.
[19:07:30] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: the only purpose was to log on your bnet acc to confirm the truth which a serious buyer should be serious with cooperation
[19:18:58] Spacerider: well i made new batttlenet with my same last name so i can transfer the account to my main which will cost me money
[19:19:33] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: sure you can
[19:22:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: doesnt matter now, since you made the dispute and negative, all i hope is get out of this trouble and let you have the new acc.
[19:23:13] Spacerider: im going to work now
[19:23:23] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: not that important to log on your bnet acc merge it by myself now
[19:24:02] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: contact me when negative removed and dispute canceled
[19:24:26] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: by the way you may reply to the negative dispute thread i made when you went offline
[19:24:53] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: reply to ask moderator to remove negative and we resolve paypal dispute
[19:24:58] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: http://www.epicnpc.com/itrader-feedback-disputes/497641-kyunga-left-unwanted-negative-feedback.html
[19:26:13] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: if you give finnal cooperation i promise to god and epicnpc moderator that i will replace you a new wow acc
[19:28:02] Spacerider: bye scammer
[19:28:38] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: see, this is your attitude
[19:28:56] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: how come a scammer will offer a new wow acc ?
 
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kyunga can you record yourself logging into your bnet account and send me a PM with the video URL? You can make the video private on Youtube and make it so only people who know the URL can view it.

I think there is a possibility of the unmerged account being used, however you are relatively a new member, very few posts and only 1 feedback from over 2 years ago, so I need to see some actual proof.

UNmerged WoW Account also offered you another account if you closed the PP dispute, so Im not sure why you didn't accept that.
 
he only offered me another account if i gave him my battlenet account details / my username and password so he could log onto my account and merge another one, would you give out your username and password ? i don't have a video cam but i can send you screen shots of me trying to merge the account with mine and or my battlenet summary/account/games that are on it?

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he only offered me another account if i gave him my battlenet account details / my username and password so he could log onto my account and merge another one, would you give out your username and password ? i don't have a video cam but i can send you screen shots of me trying to merge the account with mine and or my battlenet summary/account/games that are on it?

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hmm il try to record a video on my phone

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ok its uploading now il pm you with url once its done

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i also bought an unmerged account from Pr3cious a couple of months ago and that went fine and smootly

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and i also have account on armorybids.com but only have +2 rep with that account
 
stop trolling and saying give out your details,at that time we smelled big possible of lying and scam,whatever we have offered to give you a new wow acc info after negative and paypal dispute removed.
 
[09/02/2013 11:28:33] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: see, this is your attitude
[09/02/2013 11:28:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: how come a scammer will offer a new wow acc ?
[09/02/2013 11:29:01] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: why didnt i just block you instead?
[09/02/2013 11:29:14] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you really im afraid your paypal dispute?
[09/02/2013 11:29:20] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you really think?

and now u blocked me your very mature.

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i just want my money back ;/
 
[09/02/2013 11:28:33] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: see, this is your attitude
[09/02/2013 11:28:51] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: how come a scammer will offer a new wow acc ?
[09/02/2013 11:29:01] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: why didnt i just block you instead?
[09/02/2013 11:29:14] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you really im afraid your paypal dispute?
[09/02/2013 11:29:20] SOR wow acc/GTC/CDkey: you really think?

and now u blocked me your very mature.

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i just want my money back ;/



i never or ever blocked you, simply im offline on aim/msn/skype today, its Chinese new year's festival here,im checking and replying necessary things on iphone.

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kyunga can you record yourself logging into your bnet account and send me a PM with the video URL? You can make the video private on Youtube and make it so only people who know the URL can view it.

I think there is a possibility of the unmerged account being used, however you are relatively a new member, very few posts and only 1 feedback from over 2 years ago, so I need to see some actual proof.

UNmerged WoW Account also offered you another account if you closed the PP dispute, so Im not sure why you didn't accept that.


Dear admin, we really dont want to have any more unhappy here, we are trying hard to resolve this problem for him, like we said we offered to replace a new wow acc for him, but we should have the negative and paypal dispute removed first, giving out a new wow acc out under this situation is kindly careless and risky, he could just take the acc and run away and keep the paypal dispute/negative there,who knows.
 
I've received the video and viewed it, however as I've never played WoW, I'm not exactly sure what to look for in the video.

UNmerged WoW Account, please tell him what I should be looking for and I'll tell you if it's there or not. PM me if it's sensitive info.

In the video, I see kyunga log into his bnet account, he goes to his Account page where I can see all the games he has purchased. There's 6 games listed under WoW. 3 MOP, 2 starter editions and 1 battle chest. Under each there seems to be a username between []

kyunga, can you send me a screenshot of you logged into this same WoW account from the games login screen so I can see this is the one with 10 90's on it. I just need to verify that the account in the video isn't some other account.
 
the account name he gave me is called tfleiss which isnt on my world of warcraft games il wait till ive finshed my raid then il send you another video link

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hi there ive sent you a pm with another video link of me logging into wow and showing chars etc
 
I've received the video and viewed it, however as I've never played WoW, I'm not exactly sure what to look for in the video.

UNmerged WoW Account, please tell him what I should be looking for and I'll tell you if it's there or not. PM me if it's sensitive info.

In the video, I see kyunga log into his bnet account, he goes to his Account page where I can see all the games he has purchased. There's 6 games listed under WoW. 3 MOP, 2 starter editions and 1 battle chest. Under each there seems to be a username between []

kyunga, can you send me a screenshot of you logged into this same WoW account from the games login screen so I can see this is the one with 10 90's on it. I just need to verify that the account in the video isn't some other account.



well yeah, you just need to see if the unmerged wow acc (tfleiss)i sold show up on his game accs list on the bnet acc or not, if its there it means he had it merged if not there it doesnt mean he didnt have it as well, guess what? any one can have several seperate battle.net accs or register a new bnet acc in mins and merge the unmerged wow acc to it.example: i can choose not to merge the wow acc to my main bnet acc,just use my prepard other bnet acc to merge it and tell you hey the acc doesnt work,its a merged acc already , i cant merge it to my bnet acc,i can show you screenshot its not on my acc.plz give me a new acc.....etc.so this is the unfair and uncontrolled thing which it has no way to prove it actually.its complecate,god knows if he is legit or a prepared scammer,it doesnt important to us now,things happened,i just want to get out of trouble,so i was cool and offered him a new unmerged wow acc as replacement.so what we can do now?
 
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I can confirm that in the first video there is no account with the name tfleiss. However as UNmerged WoW Account stated, that does not prove kyunga didn't merge it into another account.

I received the video which only shows 6 90s, and a bunch of 80s. Since it does not show 10 as kyunga stated, perhaps these videos are of another account where he didn't merge the account.

This is one of those cases that is not provable by either party without Blizzard support saying what happened.

I'm not sure if this would risk kyunga's account, but perhaps you could open a ticket with Blizzard and ask them why when you try to merge tfleiss it tells you it's already been merged. If you could ask for a merge date, that would help solve this dispute. Or if UNmerged WoW Account if you have a junk account sitting around, perhaps you can open a ticket yourself asking Blizzard.

we offered to replace a new wow acc for him, but we should have the negative and paypal dispute removed first.
A resolution has already been provided and considering UNmerged WoW Account reputation, I find it very fair. If neither of you can or want to contact BLizzard support, kyunga please cancel your PP dispute and UWA will provide you with another account as he previously stated.
 
he says he will only provide me with another account, if he logs into my battlenet account? how can i trust him to log into my account :( i will kindly cancel the dispute if he promises to supply me with another $68 unmerged account.
 
he says he will only provide me with another account, if he logs into my battlenet account? how can i trust him to log into my account :( i will kindly cancel the dispute if he promises to supply me with another $68 unmerged account.

yeah that was my idea at earlier,why do you insist to catch this and dont give up saying this when i offered the finnal way again and again????
we offered to replace a new wow acc for him, but we should have the negative and paypal dispute removed first.
 
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i don't trust you, i would prefer middleman

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unfortunatly epicnpc and i and unmerged wow account are all on different timezones so im unsure how this is going to work?
 
we have offered to have the negative and dispute removed ,whenever we are online and see its removed we will pm admin the new unmerged wow acc name/password and necessary proof that its a valid acc and not unmerged to any bnet acc, admin can login the old offical wow acc management site to confirm it as well , and then admin give the acc to kyunga.so this whole thing no misunderstanding no lying no prepard scam.
 
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now kyunga canceled paypal dispute and we are agreed to wait for admin EpicNPC to remove the negative feedback he left,and i send the new 50 months old eu unmerged wow acc name/password to admin to confirm and merge it for kyunga. we have prepard the new acc here just now, also made some screenshots of proving its a valid acc and work fine for merging to a battle.net acc.kyunga saw the screenshots and no misunderstaning so far.now just wait for admin,i might be offline for sleep after 3 hours.but tomorrow morning i should get heard from admin and pm him everything without any delay.
 
I've received info to log into kyunga's account with instructions on how to merge. UNmerged WoW Account please PM me the info to merge the account. The neg feedback has been removed.

Once I get the info, I will merge the accounts and PM kyunga.

I have to take apart my office tonight as carpet installers are coming in tomorrow morning. So depending on the time I get the info from UWA, i'll either do it later today or late tomorrow as I don't know the exact time the installers are coming yet.
 
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hi EpicNpc Admin, thanks for your help as Middle-man,the new 50 months old EU unmerged wow acc name/password and screenshots proof and instruction pmed you just now, you can follow it to confirm and merge the wow acc to kyunga 's battle.net acc.kyunga i will leave you a postive feedback later.
 
the merge is complete and was succesful. kyunga has confirmed so this issue is now fully resolved.

Since it was easy to do, I'll be offering an unmerged middleman service. Check the Middleman forum for my thread ;)
 
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