This guy is quite the [censored]. I bought a Druid from him months ago. After paying him the $350 that was agreed on paypal chose the payment for a random security check or something similar and held the funds. It was clear to both parties that it was not my doing but paypal. After many emails and calls to paypal neither him nor me could get the fund back into either my account or his. Eventually he took the account back and I still didn't have the money and he claimed that he didn't either. I got my credit card statement in today showing the -350 and I called paypal who told me that he had recieved the money WEEKS ago. Even though he took back his account he refuses to give me back my money.
Beware, he is a spiteful [censored] who tries to justify theft to make himself feel better. He is a very sad human being.
I can take screenshots of the chat log if needed.
It's not even losing the money i'm upset about, it's a very small amount, it's just the fact that an [censored] like him has it. People like him are great example of whats wrong with the USA.
kirby1596 is available (10:10:45 PM)
TheIonMan12 (10:10:45 PM): hey man, I called my bank and paypal and they said you got the 350 dollars
TheIonMan12 (10:11:48 PM): please man i'm already in debt I cant afford that especially not having got anything for it
kirby1596 (10:12:32 PM): heh now you wanna talk hey
kirby1596 (10:12:35 PM): i was all up for talking
kirby1596 (10:12:35 PM): whenyou
kirby1596 (10:12:41 PM): had filed a dispute
TheIonMan12 (10:12:43 PM): I apologized to you a while back
kirby1596 (10:12:43 PM): but now me
kirby1596 (10:12:45 PM): having won the dispute
kirby1596 (10:12:47 PM): you want to talk
TheIonMan12 (10:12:53 PM): that was weeks ago
kirby1596 (10:12:54 PM): Ah, well I hadn't seen that
TheIonMan12 (10:12:57 PM): ive been dealing with court
kirby1596 (10:12:59 PM): and it doesn't evern really matter
kirby1596 (10:13:11 PM): the events laid out clearly to me
TheIonMan12 (10:13:20 PM): theres no reason to be a jerk man
TheIonMan12 (10:13:39 PM): im just asking for your help
kirby1596 (10:13:40 PM): i do hate being a bad guy
TheIonMan12 (10:13:52 PM): if you arent going to help me at lesat dont try and make me feel like [censored] too
kirby1596 (10:13:52 PM): but i felt i was an attempt of work
kirby1596 (10:13:54 PM): so..
TheIonMan12 (10:14:02 PM): im already out 350 bcuks for nothing
kirby1596 (10:14:06 PM): im not trying to make you feel like [censored]
kirby1596 (10:14:11 PM): its not something im proud of..
kirby1596 (10:14:13 PM): its just hey
kirby1596 (10:14:16 PM): what happened happened
kirby1596 (10:14:22 PM): and it did because of the choices you made
TheIonMan12 (10:14:23 PM): you may hate me and you can be an [censored] but this is real life and I really need that money
kirby1596 (10:14:33 PM): i dont hate you...
TheIonMan12 (10:14:39 PM): you dont even know what choices I made man your assuming
kirby1596 (10:14:47 PM): i just found it histirical how you tried to handle it when you thought you had the upper hand
TheIonMan12 (10:15:06 PM): there was no "upper hand" it drive me crazy that you think like that
TheIonMan12 (10:15:13 PM): there was nothing malicious about anything I did
TheIonMan12 (10:15:18 PM): I dont know why you think that
TheIonMan12 (10:15:23 PM): I really dont
kirby1596 (10:15:28 PM): ok even if there was nothing malicious about what you did
kirby1596 (10:15:32 PM): when i went to take my account back
kirby1596 (10:15:34 PM): because of no money
kirby1596 (10:15:39 PM): you then filed a dispute, which is fine
kirby1596 (10:15:43 PM): but would refused to talk to me
kirby1596 (10:15:47 PM): in any shape or form
TheIonMan12 (10:15:49 PM): I tried to talk to you
kirby1596 (10:15:49 PM): which is just hilarious
TheIonMan12 (10:15:53 PM): after I filed it
kirby1596 (10:15:55 PM): i was the one being screwd as you had the account
kirby1596 (10:15:58 PM): LOL
kirby1596 (10:16:00 PM): ok look
kirby1596 (10:16:04 PM): this can go on forever
kirby1596 (10:16:06 PM): but end result
kirby1596 (10:16:09 PM): you arent getting your money
kirby1596 (10:16:14 PM): so, say what you will
kirby1596 (10:16:16 PM): ill listen
kirby1596 (10:16:16 PM): and talk
kirby1596 (10:16:20 PM): but that is the end result
TheIonMan12 (10:16:29 PM): so your just going to keep my money
TheIonMan12 (10:16:32 PM): and I get nothing for it
TheIonMan12 (10:17:04 PM): really? lol wow
TheIonMan12 (10:17:56 PM): i've met scammers and all sorts of bad people on markee but your on another level, I can't believe you would just essentially steal 350 bucks from someone
kirby1596 (10:18:16 PM): i didnt steal anything
kirby1596 (10:18:18 PM): i won a dispute
kirby1596 (10:18:24 PM): due to your failure to tell the truth
kirby1596 (10:18:27 PM): you tried to deceive
TheIonMan12 (10:18:27 PM): no, you took back the account
kirby1596 (10:18:30 PM): yea
kirby1596 (10:18:32 PM): i had no money
TheIonMan12 (10:18:34 PM): and kept the money
kirby1596 (10:18:40 PM): i didnt receive a dime
kirby1596 (10:18:45 PM): untill 4 weeks and 2 disputes later.
kirby1596 (10:18:49 PM): which is just excessive
kirby1596 (10:18:52 PM): for me handing you the account
kirby1596 (10:18:55 PM): as soon as you said you wanted it
TheIonMan12 (10:19:02 PM): what did I lie about? nothing...
kirby1596 (10:19:07 PM): just think of it as really expensive rent
TheIonMan12 (10:19:08 PM): why wouldnt I dispute it?
kirby1596 (10:19:20 PM): look
kirby1596 (10:19:23 PM): if i had the money
kirby1596 (10:19:26 PM): when i took the account back
kirby1596 (10:19:30 PM): i would of sent it back to you
kirby1596 (10:19:33 PM): but the fact is i didnt
kirby1596 (10:19:42 PM): and it just so happens
kirby1596 (10:19:46 PM): that after i took back the account
kirby1596 (10:19:47 PM): and you disputed
TheIonMan12 (10:19:48 PM): you can try and justify it however you want
kirby1596 (10:19:50 PM): i won the dispute
TheIonMan12 (10:19:55 PM): if it makes you sleep better
kirby1596 (10:19:59 PM): because of your failure to tell the truth to paypal
kirby1596 (10:20:06 PM): i didnt even submit any informatuion to paypal
TheIonMan12 (10:20:09 PM): really? how did I fail to tell the truth
kirby1596 (10:20:10 PM): they decided all by thereselves
kirby1596 (10:20:19 PM): well
kirby1596 (10:20:21 PM): you claimed
kirby1596 (10:20:27 PM): it was an unauthorized transaction
kirby1596 (10:20:30 PM): they looked at ips
kirby1596 (10:20:33 PM): clearly saw that was a lie
kirby1596 (10:20:35 PM): and said
kirby1596 (10:20:37 PM): keep the money
TheIonMan12 (10:20:50 PM): there was no other option I could choose
TheIonMan12 (10:20:56 PM): they would have wanted a shipping number
TheIonMan12 (10:21:01 PM): but thats besides the point
kirby1596 (10:21:07 PM): why would they want a shipping number from you.. lol
kirby1596 (10:21:09 PM): you are the buyer
kirby1596 (10:21:13 PM): you wouldnt be shipping anything
kirby1596 (10:21:16 PM): look, im just saying
kirby1596 (10:21:22 PM): after 4 weeks of messing with this ordeal
kirby1596 (10:21:43 PM): and putting up with endless bullshit, i just won a dispute that i had no input on
kirby1596 (10:22:02 PM): so im not going through the trouble, especially afer how you refused to speak to me, to send you the money back
TheIonMan12 (10:22:02 PM): honestly it doesnt matter, you obviously really need the money, fact is I paid you for something and I dont have it while you do have the money
kirby1596 (10:22:06 PM): i won it fair and square, in my eyes.
TheIonMan12 (10:22:14 PM): you are a sad, sad person
TheIonMan12 (10:22:19 PM): you didnt win anything
kirby1596 (10:22:32 PM): ok, well ill be a sad sad person over here then
TheIonMan12 (10:22:32 PM): your just a angry, spiteful little kid
kirby1596 (10:22:37 PM): and you be a happy person over there
TheIonMan12 (10:22:42 PM): to steal money from someone you dont know
kirby1596 (10:22:45 PM): i am very angry
kirby1596 (10:22:46 PM): cant you tell
TheIonMan12 (10:22:47 PM): youll get far in life im sure
Beware, he is a spiteful [censored] who tries to justify theft to make himself feel better. He is a very sad human being.
I can take screenshots of the chat log if needed.
It's not even losing the money i'm upset about, it's a very small amount, it's just the fact that an [censored] like him has it. People like him are great example of whats wrong with the USA.
kirby1596 is available (10:10:45 PM)
TheIonMan12 (10:10:45 PM): hey man, I called my bank and paypal and they said you got the 350 dollars
TheIonMan12 (10:11:48 PM): please man i'm already in debt I cant afford that especially not having got anything for it
kirby1596 (10:12:32 PM): heh now you wanna talk hey
kirby1596 (10:12:35 PM): i was all up for talking
kirby1596 (10:12:35 PM): whenyou
kirby1596 (10:12:41 PM): had filed a dispute
TheIonMan12 (10:12:43 PM): I apologized to you a while back
kirby1596 (10:12:43 PM): but now me
kirby1596 (10:12:45 PM): having won the dispute
kirby1596 (10:12:47 PM): you want to talk
TheIonMan12 (10:12:53 PM): that was weeks ago
kirby1596 (10:12:54 PM): Ah, well I hadn't seen that
TheIonMan12 (10:12:57 PM): ive been dealing with court
kirby1596 (10:12:59 PM): and it doesn't evern really matter
kirby1596 (10:13:11 PM): the events laid out clearly to me
TheIonMan12 (10:13:20 PM): theres no reason to be a jerk man
TheIonMan12 (10:13:39 PM): im just asking for your help
kirby1596 (10:13:40 PM): i do hate being a bad guy
TheIonMan12 (10:13:52 PM): if you arent going to help me at lesat dont try and make me feel like [censored] too
kirby1596 (10:13:52 PM): but i felt i was an attempt of work
kirby1596 (10:13:54 PM): so..
TheIonMan12 (10:14:02 PM): im already out 350 bcuks for nothing
kirby1596 (10:14:06 PM): im not trying to make you feel like [censored]
kirby1596 (10:14:11 PM): its not something im proud of..
kirby1596 (10:14:13 PM): its just hey
kirby1596 (10:14:16 PM): what happened happened
kirby1596 (10:14:22 PM): and it did because of the choices you made
TheIonMan12 (10:14:23 PM): you may hate me and you can be an [censored] but this is real life and I really need that money
kirby1596 (10:14:33 PM): i dont hate you...
TheIonMan12 (10:14:39 PM): you dont even know what choices I made man your assuming
kirby1596 (10:14:47 PM): i just found it histirical how you tried to handle it when you thought you had the upper hand
TheIonMan12 (10:15:06 PM): there was no "upper hand" it drive me crazy that you think like that
TheIonMan12 (10:15:13 PM): there was nothing malicious about anything I did
TheIonMan12 (10:15:18 PM): I dont know why you think that
TheIonMan12 (10:15:23 PM): I really dont
kirby1596 (10:15:28 PM): ok even if there was nothing malicious about what you did
kirby1596 (10:15:32 PM): when i went to take my account back
kirby1596 (10:15:34 PM): because of no money
kirby1596 (10:15:39 PM): you then filed a dispute, which is fine
kirby1596 (10:15:43 PM): but would refused to talk to me
kirby1596 (10:15:47 PM): in any shape or form
TheIonMan12 (10:15:49 PM): I tried to talk to you
kirby1596 (10:15:49 PM): which is just hilarious
TheIonMan12 (10:15:53 PM): after I filed it
kirby1596 (10:15:55 PM): i was the one being screwd as you had the account
kirby1596 (10:15:58 PM): LOL
kirby1596 (10:16:00 PM): ok look
kirby1596 (10:16:04 PM): this can go on forever
kirby1596 (10:16:06 PM): but end result
kirby1596 (10:16:09 PM): you arent getting your money
kirby1596 (10:16:14 PM): so, say what you will
kirby1596 (10:16:16 PM): ill listen
kirby1596 (10:16:16 PM): and talk
kirby1596 (10:16:20 PM): but that is the end result
TheIonMan12 (10:16:29 PM): so your just going to keep my money
TheIonMan12 (10:16:32 PM): and I get nothing for it
TheIonMan12 (10:17:04 PM): really? lol wow
TheIonMan12 (10:17:56 PM): i've met scammers and all sorts of bad people on markee but your on another level, I can't believe you would just essentially steal 350 bucks from someone
kirby1596 (10:18:16 PM): i didnt steal anything
kirby1596 (10:18:18 PM): i won a dispute
kirby1596 (10:18:24 PM): due to your failure to tell the truth
kirby1596 (10:18:27 PM): you tried to deceive
TheIonMan12 (10:18:27 PM): no, you took back the account
kirby1596 (10:18:30 PM): yea
kirby1596 (10:18:32 PM): i had no money
TheIonMan12 (10:18:34 PM): and kept the money
kirby1596 (10:18:40 PM): i didnt receive a dime
kirby1596 (10:18:45 PM): untill 4 weeks and 2 disputes later.
kirby1596 (10:18:49 PM): which is just excessive
kirby1596 (10:18:52 PM): for me handing you the account
kirby1596 (10:18:55 PM): as soon as you said you wanted it
TheIonMan12 (10:19:02 PM): what did I lie about? nothing...
kirby1596 (10:19:07 PM): just think of it as really expensive rent
TheIonMan12 (10:19:08 PM): why wouldnt I dispute it?
kirby1596 (10:19:20 PM): look
kirby1596 (10:19:23 PM): if i had the money
kirby1596 (10:19:26 PM): when i took the account back
kirby1596 (10:19:30 PM): i would of sent it back to you
kirby1596 (10:19:33 PM): but the fact is i didnt
kirby1596 (10:19:42 PM): and it just so happens
kirby1596 (10:19:46 PM): that after i took back the account
kirby1596 (10:19:47 PM): and you disputed
TheIonMan12 (10:19:48 PM): you can try and justify it however you want
kirby1596 (10:19:50 PM): i won the dispute
TheIonMan12 (10:19:55 PM): if it makes you sleep better
kirby1596 (10:19:59 PM): because of your failure to tell the truth to paypal
kirby1596 (10:20:06 PM): i didnt even submit any informatuion to paypal
TheIonMan12 (10:20:09 PM): really? how did I fail to tell the truth
kirby1596 (10:20:10 PM): they decided all by thereselves
kirby1596 (10:20:19 PM): well
kirby1596 (10:20:21 PM): you claimed
kirby1596 (10:20:27 PM): it was an unauthorized transaction
kirby1596 (10:20:30 PM): they looked at ips
kirby1596 (10:20:33 PM): clearly saw that was a lie
kirby1596 (10:20:35 PM): and said
kirby1596 (10:20:37 PM): keep the money
TheIonMan12 (10:20:50 PM): there was no other option I could choose
TheIonMan12 (10:20:56 PM): they would have wanted a shipping number
TheIonMan12 (10:21:01 PM): but thats besides the point
kirby1596 (10:21:07 PM): why would they want a shipping number from you.. lol
kirby1596 (10:21:09 PM): you are the buyer
kirby1596 (10:21:13 PM): you wouldnt be shipping anything
kirby1596 (10:21:16 PM): look, im just saying
kirby1596 (10:21:22 PM): after 4 weeks of messing with this ordeal
kirby1596 (10:21:43 PM): and putting up with endless bullshit, i just won a dispute that i had no input on
kirby1596 (10:22:02 PM): so im not going through the trouble, especially afer how you refused to speak to me, to send you the money back
TheIonMan12 (10:22:02 PM): honestly it doesnt matter, you obviously really need the money, fact is I paid you for something and I dont have it while you do have the money
kirby1596 (10:22:06 PM): i won it fair and square, in my eyes.
TheIonMan12 (10:22:14 PM): you are a sad, sad person
TheIonMan12 (10:22:19 PM): you didnt win anything
kirby1596 (10:22:32 PM): ok, well ill be a sad sad person over here then
TheIonMan12 (10:22:32 PM): your just a angry, spiteful little kid
kirby1596 (10:22:37 PM): and you be a happy person over there
TheIonMan12 (10:22:42 PM): to steal money from someone you dont know
kirby1596 (10:22:45 PM): i am very angry
kirby1596 (10:22:46 PM): cant you tell
TheIonMan12 (10:22:47 PM): youll get far in life im sure
