Kathunx- Obtaining Information about you're wow account's

[warlockzpewpew-banned]

Hi- Yes i know i'm about to be banned from markee for owing kathunx 85 dollars for a long time and can not pay him back with in the aloted time-

Ok that is all and fine and i respect that cold feeling from you all.

Yet I would like too point out that kathunx has stolen information on my wow accounts ( You may say GOOD you owe him $85) Well let's think as this being you for a moment, he has stolen information about wow account's it was impossible for him to know otherwise. Even know's about an account I received today.

Once again yes I owe him money. I am getting banned, this post is not for me, it's for any of you people who will overlook the whole OMG lets suck up to a Moderator, and really think what is going on.

Also i won't be checking this thread but i hope you can see what this thread is all about

Take care markee


<span style="color: #CC0000">[email protected] (6:41:23 PM): Look
[email protected] (6:41:24 PM): meh
[email protected] (6:41:42 PM): you only looking for cash right?
kathunx (6:42:06 PM): I would ask for your account, but I'm not sure if it would be secure
[email protected] (6:42:39 PM): Fair game- Well take care then man
kathunx (6:42:55 PM): besides, I already have information on your WoW accounts
[email protected] (6:43:06 PM): Gladly, never had any issues with any wow accounts
[email protected] (6:43:13 PM): Which accounts?
kathunx (6:43:26 PM): let me check
[email protected] (6:43:32 PM): Allrighty
kathunx (6:44:22 PM): well, your [ Account name censored - kathunx ] account (T6 rogue)
kathunx (6:44:23 PM): nice btw
kathunx (6:44:26 PM): and there's another one here
kathunx (6:44:27 PM): let me find it
[email protected] (6:45:18 PM): Sure =) So you know a username too an account that is no longer mine, Guess that's kinda helpfull
kathunx (6:45:32 PM): [ Secret Answer censored - kathunx ] is the SQ/A
kathunx (6:45:34 PM): I believe?
[email protected] (6:45:44 PM): Possibly
kathunx (6:45:45 PM): there's another one here
[email protected] (6:45:50 PM): Allrighty
kathunx (6:45:54 PM): but I won't tell you the rest
kathunx (6:45:56 PM): no need
kathunx (6:45:57 PM):
[email protected] (6:46:07 PM): because you dont have another one im guessing
[email protected] (6:46:12 PM): So you got information on my accounts
[email protected] (6:46:19 PM): How did you do so?
kathunx (6:46:26 PM): I didn't
[email protected] (6:46:37 PM): You didnt?
kathunx (6:46:42 PM): No, I didn't
[email protected] (6:46:45 PM): Sooo
kathunx (6:46:45 PM): I don't know how to hack
[email protected] (6:46:51 PM): What was the info you just gave me?
kathunx (6:47:04 PM): That was your account information
kathunx (6:47:07 PM): for your rogue account
[email protected] (6:47:13 PM): Oh ok, and how did you obtain it?
[email protected] (6:47:22 PM): seem's we have not spoken in months
[email protected] (6:47:26 PM): Was not from me first hand
[email protected] (6:47:28 PM): So..
[email protected] (6:47:42 PM): I don't personally think you should have it
kathunx (6:47:50 PM): I keep my bases covered
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[warlockzpewpew-banned]

Sora allready posted claiming he has nothing to do with giving him information only he and i knew

to view Sora's post claiming this it is here, down towards bottom of the page.

http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1532188/2

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<span style="color: #FFFFFF">[email protected] (6:51:28 PM): and sora know this information
[email protected] (6:51:37 PM): So i'm guessing he told you
kathunx (6:51:43 PM): Who's Sora? your girlfriend?
kathunx (6:51:52 PM): oh that chick that posted in our thread?
[email protected] (6:52:03 PM): Soraisgod
kathunx (6:52:17 PM): Well she didn't say anything to me, that I can assure you
kathunx (6:52:22 PM): Except...
[email protected] (6:52:29 PM): she?
kathunx (6:52:30 PM): Soraisgod188 (12:53:04 AM): y isnt warlockz banned yet hes cursing everyone out
kathunx (1:19:54 AM): I gave him 3 days
kathunx (1:19:58 AM): I'm a man of my word
kathunx (6:52:35 PM): that's all the conversation we had
kathunx (6:52:37 PM): is it a she?
kathunx (6:53:21 PM): I thought Sora was a girl's name
[email protected] (6:53:35 PM): Wel you either keylogged me
[email protected] (6:53:38 PM): or he gave it to you
[email protected] (6:53:40 PM): which is it?
kathunx (6:53:49 PM): I am not a hacker, and he/she didn't give me anything
[email protected] (6:54:03 PM): Ok well there is no other way you could of obtained this information
[email protected] (6:54:09 PM): doubt this will look good
kathunx (6:54:18 PM): ?
kathunx (6:54:23 PM): I'm not threatening you
kathunx (6:54:29 PM): and I haven't hacked you
[email protected] (6:54:32 PM): yet you refuse to tell me
[email protected] (6:54:36 PM): how you obtained information
kathunx (6:54:38 PM): so I don't really care about what you post, I haven't done anything wrong
[email protected] (6:54:41 PM): of an account
[email protected] (6:54:47 PM): Which has not been traded around
kathunx (6:54:48 PM): I'm gonna hit the sack man, big day tomorrow </span>

 

[warlockzpewpew-banned]

Sorry for great wall's of text.

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[email protected] (6:57:49 PM): It's impossible to get the information otherwise
kathunx (6:57:49 PM): I edited it for you
[email protected] (6:58:03 PM): Or was it the hacker goons you speak of who messaged me
[email protected] (6:58:26 PM): Strange imo
kathunx (6:59:10 PM): listen man, I'm not threatening you or anything
kathunx (6:59:24 PM): All I said was I don't want your accounts, I already have information on them anyway
kathunx (6:59:28 PM): and then you thought I was bluffing
kathunx (6:59:29 PM): that's all
[email protected] (6:59:33 PM): im not saying you are
[email protected] (6:59:36 PM): well i have 4 accounts
[email protected] (6:59:42 PM): So unless you can link me all that info
[email protected] (6:59:45 PM): You technically are
kathunx (6:59:55 PM): I could link you most of that info, but I'm not going to
kathunx (7:00:02 PM): I dont have to
[email protected] (7:00:04 PM): because you done have it
kathunx (7:00:06 PM): I'm trying to stay professional here
kathunx (7:00:11 PM): but this is a tremendous test of my patience
[email protected] (7:00:16 PM): by key logging my [censored]?
[email protected] (7:00:19 PM): or?

 

[warlockzpewpew-banned]

[email protected] (7:09:01 PM): I know you dont have other account information of mine
kathunx (7:09:03 PM): How do you know whether or not I have a girlfriend?
kathunx (7:09:11 PM): Is that your generic response to people on the internet?
[email protected] (7:09:14 PM): get another one*
[email protected] (7:09:28 PM): Enjoy you're sleep
kathunx (7:09:30 PM): your TF warrior?
[email protected] (7:09:34 PM): =D
kathunx (7:09:35 PM): you know what no
kathunx (7:09:38 PM): I'm not playing into this
kathunx (7:09:42 PM): I don't have to prove anything to you
[email protected] (7:09:54 PM): character name?
[email protected] (7:10:02 PM): of these assumed accounts?

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Even know's about the warrior I got today that no one else knew of

 

[warlockzpewpew-banned]

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I am aware that alot of you will just flame me and abuse me for owing him money, That is perfectly fine, I can understand that.

Yet please ask you're self, how did he obtain this information.

Also. I have not in anyway stated Kathunx is a scammer.. as he technically has not scammed me, i owe HIM money, yet how often doe's this jacking information go on?

Even if it was not him who has done this, some one has, and he know's exactly who and how...

Farewell markee

 

[warlockzpewpew-banned]

One last thing I have to add before I pack up too leave

This is what he wrote me to me when we first spoke recently after he made my scammer post



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[email protected] (11:09:24 AM): sorry but you make no sense, ill be back in 10
[email protected] (11:18:24 AM): kathunx (11:08:10 AM): in 3 days I ban you, and the [censored] hits the fan
kathunx (11:08:33 AM): I wont be protecting you from any of these goonish hacker dudes
kathunx (11:08:36 AM): it's all on you at that point
[email protected] (11:18:26 AM): hmm?

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here is how he explained what he meant, about these hacker's


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The "goonish hackers" are the people you were worried about that messaged you because they saw this thread. I was protecting you from them because you are a Markee Dragon user and as a moderator I am obligated to assist you regardless of the fact you owe me money. If you're banned, however, I am not obligated to do so. Whatever people do to scammers on Markee Dragon is not my problem once they're found guilty and banned.

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If you read the scammer thread about me, you will see i got contacted by people on AIM with threats and so forth, no where do i mention they are hackers, yet kathunx seem's sure set on using the word.

This is most likely nothing, yet it doe's kinda make sense now.

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Now finnaly!! Time too leave you people alone.

By time I wake back up my markee account should be closed. Toodles

 

[Exenztrix]

You do realize you are the only person posting in this thread.....? = No one cares and is on Kathunx's side?

/lock thread

 

[GameSupply]

You linked this to me, not remembering I guess the fact that you strung me along for 10 days on buying an account that I was nice enough to let you play, NEVER coming through on paying. Not sure what you hoped to accomplish linking this to me, unless it was to further validate you don't pay your debts.

 

[kalgansucks]

You have been caught lying/scamming by multiple people on various occasions. The difference between you and him, he might have the info to the accounts but he wont touch them, on the other hand every single person on MD knows your a lier.

Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[sinbad190]

This is cute. I've been here for a long time, and in that time I have never scammed anyone (nor do I plan to). I told you very clearly that I am not threatening you. I didn't hack you and I don't know how to hack. Before I was a moderator, I used to actively assist legit users who ran into people like you. I also kept my bases covered in every transaction, and thus I wasn't scammed. Now that I am a moderator, my job and professionalism come first, otherwise this would have played out very differently.

Now considering even you said that you aren't accusing me of scamming, I don't believe this belongs in the scammer forums. However, I don't want to make it seem like I feel guilty or anything, so I'll keep it up and leave it for another moderator/administrator to deal with.

 

[btraill]

Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down.

 

[Exenztrix]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kathunx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is cute. I've been here for a long time, and in that time I have never scammed anyone (nor do I plan to). I told you very clearly that I am not threatening you. I didn't hack you and I don't know how to hack. Before I was a moderator, I used to actively assist legit users who ran into people like you. I also kept my bases covered in every transaction, and thus I wasn't scammed. Now that I am a moderator, my job and professionalism come first, otherwise this would have played out very differently.

Now considering even you said that you aren't accusing me of scamming, I don't believe this belongs in the scammer forums. However, I don't want to make it seem like I feel guilty or anything, so I'll keep it up and leave it for another moderator/administrator to deal with.</div></div>

/Lock Thread

/Move Thread To Useless Wastebin

=D

I got ya covered Kathunx

 

[btraill]

I want to see this kid go down.. hard. Where's xtrader when ya need him!!?

 

[ToonVendor]

Banned - failed to resolve dispute - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/473361-toonvendor-%242400-balance-owed-after-consignment-sale-failed-bank-wire.html

So this kid is calling you the scammer, for him not giving you your $85.00 back.

CONTROVERSIAL

 

[Xtrader1406]

*looks*

 

[Soraisgod]

theres xtrader

 

[btraill]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xtrader1406</div><div class="ubbcode-body">*looks*

</div></div>

Now get to work!

 

[Epicfaces]

yayyyyy 1406 in the hizzouse

 

[FiNeRaIn]

kathunx= Trustwho verified and 9 Positive ratings.

You, Not trustwho verified and 3 neg's.

Says it all...

Next please...

 

[Mattman59]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules?

 

[Mattman59]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zerotoleranceftw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So this kid is calling you the scammer, for him not giving you your $85.00 back.

CONTROVERSIAL </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules?

 

[btraill]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules? </div></div>

He's a scammer, period. In my eyes, it doesn't matter that he has negative feedback, this post proves that he owes Kathux money.

 

[Hardstylin -banned]

It's funny how he never stated once that kathunx was a scammer, yet everyone's like "omgosh he's not a scammer!1".

Btrail, honestly, you had your go as a Moderator, and unfortunately failed, it's funny how you still think you're the forum police.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">kathunx= Trustwho verified and 9 Positive ratings.

You, Not trustwho verified and 3 neg's.

Says it all...

Next please...</div></div>

Umm, he was given 3 negatives for the same reason moron.

In other news, heggie I've been trying to contact you on AIM, you know, about that account you sold to me and the information not being correct, you havn't contacted me back once and here you are on the forums.

 

[FiNeRaIn]

Hardstylin, you have replied to btrail yet quoted me, I just want to clear up the fact that your comment of

" In other news, heggie I've been trying to contact you on AIM, you know, about that account you sold to me and the information not being correct, you havn't contacted me back once and here you are on the forums."

Was directed at btrail and not me, for anyone wondering.

Separately, I am well aware that he was given 3 neg's for the same event, that to me shows at least 3 people think he's a lying scammer who doesn't pay debt. GG anyway if you want to support people who have been openly retarded in numerous AIM chat logs posted.

 

[Mattman59]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules? </div></div>

He's a scammer, period. In my eyes, it doesn't matter that he has negative feedback, this post proves that he owes Kathux money. </div></div>

But you are not Kathux and the rules say you have to do business with someone to leave feedback, I got temp banned for doing just that.

 

[btraill]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules? </div></div>

He's a scammer, period. In my eyes, it doesn't matter that he has negative feedback, this post proves that he owes Kathux money. </div></div>

But you are not Kathux and the rules say you have to do business with someone to leave feedback, I got temp banned for doing just that.

I've made it a neutral, but honestly, the rule probably put in there for another reason for people who abuse the rep system. I put it there for good justice, to make sure people didn't do business with him.

 

[Hardstylin -banned]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules? </div></div>

He's a scammer, period. In my eyes, it doesn't matter that he has negative feedback, this post proves that he owes Kathux money. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But you are not Kathux and the rules say you have to do business with someone to leave feedback, I got temp banned for doing just that.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've made it a neutral, but honestly, the rule probably put in there for another reason for people who abuse the rep system. I put it there for good justice, to make sure people didn't do business with him.</div></div>

Yeah, na.

Failed @ forum police buddy.

The rule was put there for people that can't handle the responsibility of being TrustWho verified, i.e: you.

Better luck next time champ.

 

[Mattman59]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hardstylin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: btraill</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Warlock, you said you were 20+... seems like you are 12. Get over the fact that you have scammed one, good job Kathunx. Now that warlock is truly getting mad, seeing as he made this thread. All we have left is to get his phone number so I can call his parents. Can't wait until this littler [censored] goes down. </div></div>

You know they will temp ban you for breaking the feedback rules? </div></div>

He's a scammer, period. In my eyes, it doesn't matter that he has negative feedback, this post proves that he owes Kathux money. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But you are not Kathux and the rules say you have to do business with someone to leave feedback, I got temp banned for doing just that.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've made it a neutral, but honestly, the rule probably put in there for another reason for people who abuse the rep system. I put it there for good justice, to make sure people didn't do business with him.</div></div>

Yeah, na.

Failed @ forum police buddy.

The rule was put there for people that can't handle the responsibility of being TrustWho verified, i.e: you.

Better luck next time champ.

Just looking for a little justice. Wondering why there is a bit of selective enforcement going on.

 

[EQJunky]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hardstylin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Failed @ forum police buddy.

The rule was put there for people that can't handle the responsibility of being TrustWho verified, i.e: you.

Better luck next time champ.

</div></div>

Hey Hardstylin I noticed that you left Warlockzpewpew a Positive on the same day that these Negatives / Neutrals were listed as being given to him, over this sour deal. Noting the ignore any negative comments that have been left for this individual.

I'm going to assume that you have made a legit deal in the past with Warlockzpewpew to have come to this conclusion. Since I'm not trying to start an epic war of "He said She said" here...

I guess as a member of these forums and a responsible user of TWV, I'm just looking for some clarification on this.

Otherwise wouldn't preferential treatment be along the same lines of improper use of TWV as it is for others to leave Negatives about transactions that they were not a part of with any particular user?

As I have stated, I am assuming that you actually have had a valid transaction that warrants the Positive rating. Otherwise I'm going to go with the old saying "Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right" and "Practice What You Preach".

PS... I'm not taking a side in this situation, I'm just hoping that TWV and the costs for it don't become an automatic form of Offense of Defense for a group of users who are in a good working relationship with any particular user of these forums who may be "Under Fire" for any trade related issue...

 

[Ace Logan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mattman59</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Just looking for a little justice. Wondering why there is a bit of selective enforcement going on.</div></div>

Because there are 80k members, 400k threads, and who knows how much feedback being left on a daily basis, not to mention wading through scammer threads to satisfy ourselves of the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing, AND there only being a limited amount of time to police the forums in the first place.

 

[Exenztrix]

<span style="color: #00CCCC"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Why are people going off topic?

This is a thread about Kathunx and Warlockzpew....

Not about doing past trades with Heggie or getting a temp ban for leaving feedback...

I'm not listing names, but people need to stop bashing on others. WE, the community, are supposed to be working against the scammers...not against eachother.

Think the personal attacks need to end...

And this thread should be locked and move to the trash bin

</span></span></span></span>

 

[Arazine]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not listing names, but people need to stop bashing on others. WE, the community, are supposed to be working against the scammers...not against eachother.

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Well said !