KraJee1
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Banned - failed to resolve scam thread -http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/517688-scammed-krajee1-2.html
transaction thread. : http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco.../497095-2500-h-prot-orc-warrior-elite-t2.html
Information
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Dispute Date: march / 30 / 2013
Method of Contact Used:skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: jakethesnake12345
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: jakers7
Your Instant Messenger ID: braytac3
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? WoW account that he bought from me through paypal. We did the sale, everything has been absolutely fine for months. All the sudden this month i get a massive chargeback on my paypal account that puts the paypal account in the negatives. I message him immediately asking what is wrong. The whole song and dance he gave me turns out to be pretty faulty. He first told me "someone got a hold of my credit card while i was in the hospital and charged alot of stuff on my credit card" (i guess they also can just chargeback all paypal purchases too? that was pretty sketchy as well) For days and weeks it went on with him saying "im in the hospital" or "i wont be home soon" or "i called paypal and they arent helping" or "paypal said they would give us our money back" etc etc etc. Well its now march 30th and he removed me from skype (as i figured). Nothing else to really explain, he straight up charge back scammed me.
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco.../497095-2500-h-prot-orc-warrior-elite-t2.html
Approximate value of property: $250.00
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who? N/A
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: ^^^just what was written above. nothing else is necessary now but for screenshots.
Other details / notes: When he was buying the WoW account he said paypal wont let him send any more than like 50$ at a time, so he said can i just send you seperate payments each day? I was fine with that and i let him so, considering also i didn't have to give him the rest of the login information until all the payments went through.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: [2/9/2013 7:06:31 PM] Jake: Whats up?
[2/9/2013 7:07:09 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey you were looking for a t2 warrior? im looking to get rid of one
[2/9/2013 7:08:01 PM] Jake: Yep, armory?
[2/9/2013 7:08:49 PM] Brandon Rikli: (armory) , has plagued proto and black proto drake, crimson death charger, and a small pve prot set
[2/9/2013 7:09:15 PM] Jake: Only prot pvp set?
[2/9/2013 7:10:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah, nothing has been done on it this week, 3770 to cap and i think like 2k cp on it currently
[2/9/2013 7:10:56 PM] Jake: How much ya looking for?
[2/9/2013 7:11:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: looking for 300 but i can go to like 250, i bought it for 300 and it has alot of upgrades since then
[2/9/2013 7:12:19 PM] Jake: Would you let me log on and check it out before I pay?
[2/9/2013 7:12:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 7:12:48 PM] Jake: Oh wow cool
[2/9/2013 7:16:49 PM] Brandon Rikli: were you interested?
[2/9/2013 7:18:34 PM] Jake: Yep, just gimme a sec
[2/9/2013 7:19:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay
[2/9/2013 7:21:35 PM] Jake: How is he in pvpo?
[2/9/2013 7:22:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: very strong , takes years to kill also
[2/9/2013 7:47:07 PM] Jake: No 2h though?
[2/9/2013 7:47:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya theres no 2h yet
[2/9/2013 7:47:53 PM] Jake: Ahh, can you use the set for arms though?
[2/9/2013 7:49:09 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah, gems would just need to be switched out which he has full proffs and atm 3k gold, has thousands worth of ghost ore atm
[2/9/2013 7:51:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: internet d/c mb
[2/9/2013 7:51:15 PM] Jake: All good
[2/9/2013 7:51:31 PM] Jake: Yeah im very interested man but im on my phone atm, can i pm you later or maybe tomorrow?
[2/9/2013 7:51:37 PM] Jake: Im just oput to dinner
[2/9/2013 7:51:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah thats fine ill be on all night tonight and ill be on tomorrow as well
[2/9/2013 7:52:06 PM] Jake: Aright great
[2/9/2013 10:47:08 PM] Jake: Would you let me test the acount out?
[2/9/2013 10:47:13 PM] Jake: Like go on it?
[2/9/2013 10:48:11 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 10:48:21 PM] Jake: Can I get the login?
[2/9/2013 10:48:23 PM] Jake: No SQ
[2/9/2013 10:48:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah hold on
[2/9/2013 10:49:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay its (*******)
[2/9/2013 10:49:37 PM] Jake: Okay, may get locked
[2/9/2013 10:49:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 10:50:02 PM] Jake: yep locked
[2/9/2013 10:51:39 PM] Jake: Just let me know pass when you unlock
[2/9/2013 10:51:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: it's now (******)
[2/9/2013 10:55:03 PM] Jake: Ahh my wow is freezing
[2/9/2013 10:55:06 PM] Jake: lol sec
[2/9/2013 10:55:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: its okay
[2/9/2013 11:00:34 PM] Jake: Looks cool man
[2/9/2013 11:00:45 PM] Jake: Lol you barely have any keybinds
[2/9/2013 11:01:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: eh idk hwo that works
[2/9/2013 11:01:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: like if you
[2/9/2013 11:01:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: log in from a different computer or something
[2/9/2013 11:03:04 PM] Jake: I really like him just wish he had an arms set haha
[2/9/2013 11:04:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya i didnt really know which way to go with him , just tanking was a change up from what i usually do
[2/9/2013 11:21:23 PM] Jake: Mind If I do a bg or two?
[2/9/2013 11:21:37 PM] Brandon Rikli: go ahead im not using it
[2/9/2013 11:21:59 PM] Jake: Oh cool
[2/9/2013 11:26:04 PM] Jake: Im like 99% im gonna buy it
[2/9/2013 11:26:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: great
[2/9/2013 11:39:26 PM] Jake: Whats your paypal email?
[2/9/2013 11:39:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: (******)
[2/9/2013 11:40:11 PM] Jake: You said 250?
[2/9/2013 11:40:18 PM] Jake: I have that in my paypal exactly lol
[2/9/2013 11:40:20 PM] Brandon Rikli: Yeah we can do that
[2/9/2013 11:47:17 PM] Jake: weird wont go through
[2/9/2013 11:47:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: is it giving an error msg
[2/9/2013 11:47:32 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/9/2013 11:47:47 PM] Jake: Saying I need to add funds, then do it
[2/9/2013 11:49:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: u have money in your paypal balance? and it could be giving u an option of what payment method u want to use
[2/9/2013 11:49:20 PM] Jake: Like through a debit card
[2/9/2013 11:50:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: if its saying add funds do u have money in it ? lo
[2/9/2013 11:51:10 PM] Jake: yeah haha
[2/9/2013 11:51:15 PM] Jake: Any other way we can do it?
[2/9/2013 11:52:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: thats really weird that wont work, uhm
[2/9/2013 11:52:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: maybe moneybookers but i havent really used that
[2/9/2013 11:52:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me google ur problem
[2/9/2013 11:52:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: nevr heard of it
[2/9/2013 11:52:47 PM] Jake: Sorry, your payment won't go through. To make it work, you'll need to add money to your account and pay with your PayPal balance.
[2/9/2013 11:54:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: and your trying to send money by clicking "send money" or whatever tab at the top , putting in my e-mail, and clicking send or w/e and it wont let you?
[2/9/2013 11:54:12 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/9/2013 11:54:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: is ur debit card like added onto your account
[2/9/2013 11:55:46 PM] Jake: yep
[2/9/2013 11:55:52 PM] Jake: Lemme call them
[2/9/2013 11:56:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya i've never heard of it,
[2/9/2013 11:56:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: see what they say
[2/9/2013 11:56:25 PM] Jake: Aright man
[2/9/2013 11:56:54 PM] Jake: Do you accept anything else? Like I buy that much in wow gold and give it to you?
[2/9/2013 11:58:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: i wouldn't do that, do u maybe have ur bank account linked to paypal and use that? i mean we can maybe do ******************* and try it through their system , if u ever heard of that website, its a bit of a longer process. or try using moneybookers.
[2/10/2013 12:04:22 AM] Jake: Yeah ill register for MB
[2/10/2013 12:06:44 AM] Jake: Whats your email on moneybookers?
[2/10/2013 12:07:27 AM] Jake: Or are you on playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:07:36 AM] Brandon Rikli: (*******)
[2/10/2013 12:07:38 AM] Brandon Rikli: is for MB
[2/10/2013 12:33:57 AM] Jake: Okay
[2/10/2013 12:34:04 AM] Jake: trying to figure out how to do this
[2/10/2013 12:34:19 AM] Jake: Is it on playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:34:41 AM] Brandon Rikli: its fine
[2/10/2013 12:34:42 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/10/2013 12:34:46 AM] Brandon Rikli: i have to put it up
[2/10/2013 12:34:48 AM] Brandon Rikli: one second finishign
[2/10/2013 12:34:50 AM] Jake: Okay
[2/10/2013 12:36:41 AM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 12:36:48 AM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 12:36:57 AM] Jake: that was it right?
[2/10/2013 12:38:09 AM] Jake: are you verified on paypal?
[2/10/2013 12:43:56 AM] Jake: Okay, I just sent 50
[2/10/2013 12:43:59 AM] Jake: Did you get it?
[2/10/2013 12:44:07 AM] Brandon Rikli: hold on
[2/10/2013 12:44:12 AM] Brandon Rikli: i am verified
[2/10/2013 12:45:10 AM] Jake: It let me send 50, then didnt let me send anymore
[2/10/2013 12:47:57 AM] Jake: Did you get it?
[2/10/2013 12:50:15 AM] Brandon Rikli: alright sorry was in a raid boss
[2/10/2013 12:50:22 AM] Jake: Its alright
[2/10/2013 12:50:24 AM] Brandon Rikli: checking
[2/10/2013 12:51:50 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah it did go
[2/10/2013 12:52:03 AM] Jake: weird. now it wont let me send anymore
[2/10/2013 12:52:09 AM] Brandon Rikli: its gotta be
[2/10/2013 12:52:16 AM] Brandon Rikli: the amount on ur card
[2/10/2013 12:52:17 AM] Brandon Rikli: idk what else
[2/10/2013 12:52:30 AM] Jake: Nope I used a credit card this time
[2/10/2013 12:54:07 AM] Jake: Ugh
[2/10/2013 12:54:16 AM] Jake: Meanwhile, am I allowed to play the account?
[2/10/2013 12:54:24 AM] Jake: Paypal is closed :/
[2/10/2013 12:54:26 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah go ahead
[2/10/2013 12:54:43 AM] Jake: Alright cool, sorry for the trouble man
[2/10/2013 12:54:47 AM] Brandon Rikli: do u want me to make a playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:54:54 AM] Brandon Rikli: for the rest of it
[2/10/2013 12:54:57 AM] Jake: Yeah I mean If you wanna try it
[2/10/2013 12:55:13 AM] Brandon Rikli: they have a different system
[2/10/2013 12:55:19 AM] Brandon Rikli: u just put in ur credit card info
[2/10/2013 12:55:23 AM] Jake: okay cool
[2/10/2013 12:55:36 AM] Jake: You dont have to make it real stuff or whatever
[2/10/2013 12:55:51 AM] Brandon Rikli: ill put it up for 210 since they take out deductions of a % and is usually like close to 10$
[2/10/2013 12:55:54 AM] Brandon Rikli: and ill post link
[2/10/2013 12:55:56 AM] Jake: ok
[2/10/2013 12:59:33 AM] Brandon Rikli: u've gotta be kidding me, error this function cannot be used at this time
[2/10/2013 1:00:04 AM] Jake: What happened?
[2/10/2013 1:00:33 AM] Brandon Rikli: idk this happened the other day also and i contacted PA and they said use a different browser. that doesnt help either, like when i fill everything out and click submit sale, it just says error on a white screen
[2/10/2013 1:01:56 AM] Jake: ahh damn
[2/10/2013 1:02:02 AM] Jake: well ill call paypal tomorrow
[2/10/2013 1:02:18 AM] Jake: I think It has like a daily limit or something now
[2/10/2013 1:02:31 AM] Jake: im gonna see if I can send more tomorrow etc
[2/10/2013 1:02:52 AM] Brandon Rikli: did u buy anything recently was just about to say
[2/10/2013 1:03:06 AM] Brandon Rikli: or we can try moneybookers if u tried that but thats up to u
[2/10/2013 1:03:15 AM] Brandon Rikli: i honestly dont care if we have to wait
[2/10/2013 1:11:43 AM] Jake: Ahh aright, well for now its probably easier if we wait a bit
[2/10/2013 1:12:20 AM] Brandon Rikli: kk
[2/10/2013 5:55:34 AM] Brandon Rikli: lol 5am, going to bed, cyah tomorrow
[2/10/2013 5:55:37 AM] Brandon Rikli: feel free to play
[2/10/2013 3:29:38 PM] Jake: dude it wont let me get on the account
[2/10/2013 3:41:24 PM] Jake: did you change the pass?
[2/10/2013 3:43:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: no
[2/10/2013 3:44:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u sure ur doing
[2/10/2013 3:44:05 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/10/2013 3:44:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: (*********)
[2/10/2013 3:44:11 PM] Jake: It says the guy is online now?
[2/10/2013 3:44:18 PM] Brandon Rikli: hold on
[2/10/2013 3:45:18 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me do a recovery and re-do it then not sure
[2/10/2013 3:46:17 PM] Jake: Okay cool
[2/10/2013 3:47:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk i just simply password recovered not sure what to tell you unless u let someone else on it or something
[2/10/2013 3:47:38 PM] Jake: Did you change the pass?
[2/10/2013 3:47:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: its (******)
[2/10/2013 3:47:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: no i didnt
[2/10/2013 3:48:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: i just woke up
[2/10/2013 3:48:26 PM] Jake: Hope it wasn't OO
[2/10/2013 3:48:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: on my e-mail it tells me when password was changed
[2/10/2013 3:48:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: i got a "password change notice" at 1:32 pm
[2/10/2013 3:48:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: today
[2/10/2013 3:49:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: nothing is changed on the character itself right?
[2/10/2013 3:50:03 PM] Jake: all the gold is gone :/
[2/10/2013 3:50:16 PM] Brandon Rikli: really/
[2/10/2013 3:50:22 PM] Jake: Yeah but its alright
[2/10/2013 3:50:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk what to even say
[2/10/2013 3:50:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: all that sounds like
[2/10/2013 3:50:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: is a hacker.
[2/10/2013 3:50:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: one of those guys who sell gold
[2/10/2013 3:51:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: got on the account, traded it or sent it to one of his people
[2/10/2013 3:51:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: does it still have all the ghost iron ore stacks?
[2/10/2013 3:52:07 PM] Jake: Nope..
[2/10/2013 3:53:25 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah absolutely sounds like one of those european/foreign guys on the forums that always say they are "buying gold"
[2/10/2013 3:53:27 PM] Jake: Can bliz rollback?
[2/10/2013 3:53:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: someone's in your computer maybe
[2/10/2013 3:53:51 PM] Jake: Nope not my computer, I work sometimes as a computer tech
[2/10/2013 3:53:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: why would someone get a password, log into it, grab the gold and iron ore, and do nothing else
[2/10/2013 3:54:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: lol
[2/10/2013 3:54:07 PM] Jake: lol I guess it was a farmer lol
[2/10/2013 3:54:11 PM] Jake: Ill still buy it
[2/10/2013 3:54:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: if u send in a ticket
[2/10/2013 3:54:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: you could probably talk to someone about it
[2/10/2013 3:54:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: they will tell you at one time someone logged in etc
[2/10/2013 3:54:30 PM] Jake: Aright cool
[2/10/2013 3:54:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: they have to have a record of every IP address on your account
[2/10/2013 3:55:27 PM] Jake: Just sent you another 50 by the way
[2/10/2013 3:55:35 PM] Jake: I guess I can only send 50 per day or something
[2/10/2013 3:55:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: is there like a limit you put on your account
[2/10/2013 3:56:20 PM] Jake: Nope, I called and they said it was an error on their part and trying to fix it
[2/10/2013 3:57:19 PM] Jake: but is it cool if its all there by tuesday?
[2/10/2013 3:57:30 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/10/2013 3:57:39 PM] Jake: Sorry dude :/
[2/10/2013 3:57:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: just make sure when it gives you the choice to send as goods service or gift , send it as gift because deductions keep getting taken out of the other ones you sent, if its as gift theres no taxes or whatever , its ok for now just for the other ones
[2/10/2013 3:57:58 PM] Jake: ya I sent as gift
[2/10/2013 3:58:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh okay
[2/10/2013 3:58:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: i guess on the first one a couple dollars got taken, thats fine though
[2/10/2013 3:58:35 PM] Jake: Ahh okay
[2/10/2013 9:33:49 PM] Jake: Dude
[2/10/2013 9:33:57 PM] Jake: did you geta nother password change notice?
[2/10/2013 9:34:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: ?
[2/10/2013 9:34:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me check
[2/10/2013 9:35:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay i see right now
[2/10/2013 9:35:11 PM] Jake: I recovered it
[2/10/2013 9:35:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: an e-mail showing all of the things that are eligible for restore
[2/10/2013 9:35:14 PM] Jake: Like the items
[2/10/2013 9:35:22 PM] Jake: Yeah that was me
[2/10/2013 9:35:34 PM] Jake: I got everything back
[2/10/2013 9:35:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: nothing else for passwords um
[2/10/2013 9:35:42 PM] Brandon Rikli: ill try to log in
[2/10/2013 9:37:37 PM] Brandon Rikli: i think the person is still in my skype possibly
[2/10/2013 9:37:42 PM] Brandon Rikli: do u have a phone or something
[2/10/2013 9:37:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: i can text u
[2/10/2013 9:37:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: the new pass
[2/10/2013 9:37:58 PM] Jake: yep
[2/10/2013 9:38:01 PM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 9:38:13 PM] Jake: can I change the email?
[2/10/2013 9:39:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: i want to make sure we can stop this from happening, if it happens again ill change it to a new one and see if that does anything, im going to give it a day or so to see if it continues or not
[2/10/2013 9:39:24 PM] Jake: okay cool
[2/10/2013 9:39:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: theres a thing on the forums , when i was trying to trade to some foreign guy
[2/10/2013 9:39:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: i think he sent me a link in an e-mail , i thought it was the password reset i had to do to unlock a diablo 3 account
[2/10/2013 9:39:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: i clicked it and he was in my epicnpc accuont and he was somehow logged into my skype
[2/10/2013 9:40:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: while i was
[2/10/2013 9:40:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: like he could type to other people with me watching
[2/10/2013 9:40:19 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk if he ever got out, my virus scan shows nothing yet he was still changing my passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:26 PM] Jake: hmm
[2/10/2013 9:40:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: he cant find out anything else just passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:30 PM] Brandon Rikli: and while im typing u the passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:31 PM] Jake: so ya just text me
[2/10/2013 9:40:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: he might be seeing it
[2/10/2013 9:40:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: i texted u it
[2/10/2013 9:41:05 PM] Brandon Rikli: but ya there was basically someone who could watch my skype conversations and type to people like it's me
[2/10/2013 9:41:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk how he did it but
[2/10/2013 9:41:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u completely sure u dont have any hackers
[2/10/2013 9:41:36 PM] Jake: positive
[2/10/2013 9:41:45 PM] Jake: yersterday I only used my desktop
[2/10/2013 9:41:58 PM] Jake: Today after it got hacked, I only used my laptop
[2/10/2013 9:42:32 PM] Brandon Rikli: i mean its nothing to be worried about its just super annoying and stupid
[2/10/2013 9:42:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: somehow was changing pass
[2/10/2013 9:42:51 PM] Jake: Yeah I know
[2/11/2013 4:40:08 PM] Brandon Rikli: Hey at work till 9
[2/11/2013 9:22:03 PM] Jake: Aright man np
[2/11/2013 10:50:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: im home
[2/11/2013 10:51:01 PM] Jake: Hey man gonna send you another 50 now
[2/11/2013 10:51:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay thats so funny
[2/11/2013 10:51:47 PM] Jake: snt
[2/11/2013 10:51:50 PM] Jake: sent*
[2/11/2013 10:51:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright idk why its making u do that
[2/11/2013 10:52:05 PM] Jake: Ya I know haha
[2/13/2013 9:38:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: hows it goin
[2/13/2013 9:38:19 PM] Jake: Good, sending another 50 right now
[2/13/2013 9:38:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright
[2/13/2013 9:39:18 PM] Jake: Sent 100
[2/13/2013 9:39:22 PM] Jake: So that should be it right?
[2/13/2013 9:39:27 PM] Jake: 250
[2/13/2013 9:39:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya thats good, it let u sent 100 now? lol
[2/13/2013 9:39:48 PM] Jake: Ya haha
[2/13/2013 9:39:54 PM] Jake: Aight I can change email?
[2/13/2013 9:39:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/13/2013 9:40:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: warr is
[2/13/2013 9:40:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: (******)
[2/13/2013 9:41:29 PM] Jake: Ok cool
[2/13/2013 9:41:49 PM] Jake: Comke with ID or no?
[2/13/2013 9:42:31 PM] Brandon Rikli
******)
[2/13/2013 9:42:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: we can give eachother rep if u'd like
[2/13/2013 9:42:52 PM] Jake: Yeah sure
[2/13/2013 9:42:56 PM] Jake: Name?
[2/13/2013 9:43:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...44-looking-geared-t2-warrior.html#post2889308 i was the last guy krajee1 to post on ur thread
[2/13/2013 9:43:34 PM] Jake: ah
[2/13/2013 9:43:57 PM] Jake: How do you give rep on here?
[2/13/2013 9:44:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: just go to my profile like
[2/13/2013 9:44:20 PM] Brandon Rikli: click on my name and click view profile
[2/13/2013 9:44:25 PM] Brandon Rikli: then the feedback tab and submit feedback
[2/13/2013 9:44:26 PM] Jake: Got that
[3/12/2013 5:17:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u jake habib?
[3/12/2013 5:20:55 PM] Brandon Rikli: Reason your doing charge backs on paypal without talking?
[3/12/2013 5:39:41 PM] Jake: Dude im not sure whats happening, my credit card was stolen.
[3/12/2013 5:40:03 PM] Jake: Ive been in the hospital and I got a bill for $2550
[3/12/2013 5:43:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: really? wow , the WoW account i sold u on paypal
[3/12/2013 5:43:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: there was an "unauthorized" chargeback for everything
[3/12/2013 5:44:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: so i just sent them and told them what u said and everything
[3/12/2013 7:43:21 PM] Jake: Okay no problem
[3/12/2013 7:43:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: can u access ur paypal account and just
[3/12/2013 7:43:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: cancel the chargeback thing
[3/12/2013 7:43:53 PM] Jake: It wont let me, thats how they stole all the money form me
[3/12/2013 7:44:30 PM] Jake: Again I apologize, I wasn't thinking about the sale, I was pretty upset :/
[3/13/2013 3:36:00 AM] Brandon Rikli: well i might have to call paypal or something, im not going to be very happy if they take 250$ back from me..
[3/13/2013 3:36:10 AM] Brandon Rikli: this is so confusing i dont even understand
[3/13/2013 7:19:19 AM] Jake: I know, Im not sure why paypal would even do this, Ill call later today.
[3/13/2013 2:55:35 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah i mean if u tell them that u dont want that they would most likely listen to u better than me, im not even sure if they will deal with me
[3/13/2013 3:57:28 PM] Jake: Yeah they're being pricks about it since I cancelled my credit card. They're putting me on a "hold list" until my bank verifies me.
[3/13/2013 3:57:42 PM] Jake: Such bull**** to be honest.
[3/13/2013 3:58:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: i dont mind waiting, just as long as it'll get taken off my account. i have -250 balance showing on my account lol
[3/13/2013 3:58:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: any money i get from sales just goes into the debt
[3/13/2013 4:00:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: like did you call them?
[3/13/2013 4:11:14 PM] Jake: Yep.
[3/13/2013 4:11:29 PM] Jake: JUst some indian guy answered who doesnt know anything.
[3/13/2013 4:11:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: lol
[3/13/2013 4:11:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: did he say what happens now
[3/13/2013 4:12:09 PM] Jake: Now its a waiting process depending on my banks hours of operation.
[3/13/2013 4:12:31 PM] Jake: Anyways, im working more now so ill see if I can grab a debit card and loa money into a new paypal.
[3/13/2013 4:42:53 PM] Brandon Rikli: ok
[3/15/2013 4:55:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey any word yet from them
[3/15/2013 4:55:44 PM] Jake: Yep, they're sending me a paypal credit card I need to use.
[3/15/2013 4:56:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh alright, will that like settle the unauthorized chargebacks i got
[3/15/2013 5:00:33 PM] Jake: Yeah. I hope so.
[3/15/2013 5:00:56 PM] Jake: Im getting calls 24/7 from them, I dont understand why they cant get theyre **** together.
[3/15/2013 5:01:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: Like simply reverse everything they did . honestly that chargeback system they have is just cancerous to the website and its users. I cant see when chargebacks would ever be a good thing to have on the website, id put a stop to those immediately
[3/15/2013 5:02:00 PM] Jake: Same here buddy.
[3/15/2013 5:02:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: Even if your telling them "hey , whoever did that isnt me, someone obviously has my card. I did not do this" they will still take forever
[3/15/2013 5:02:43 PM] Brandon Rikli: theres only one you..
[3/15/2013 5:02:54 PM] Jake: Exactly. I provided ID, everything.
[3/15/2013 5:03:04 PM] Jake: Still they have to "go through their system"
[3/15/2013 5:03:08 PM] Jake: So much more stress.
[3/15/2013 5:03:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: yep and another load of days it will probably take them, not sure if they even do that stuff on weekends lol, whatever
[3/18/2013 9:37:12 PM] Brandon Rikli: any idea whats going on yet
[3/18/2013 11:58:03 PM] Jake: Not yet. Hopefully soon, Im having some heart surgery done over the next fer hours.
[3/18/2013 11:58:21 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh wow, hope that goes well
[3/18/2013 11:58:34 PM] Jake: Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.
[3/18/2013 11:59:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: yup
[3/19/2013 8:17:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: each one of these chargebacks seem to be going back to your card...my account is going into the negatives
[3/19/2013 8:17:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
[3/19/2013 8:20:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
[3/19/2013 8:20:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: funds recovered from seller, cannot be disputed in sellers favor
[3/20/2013 4:05:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey you around?
[3/20/2013 4:17:03 PM] Jake: Hey bud im on my phone, whats up?
[3/20/2013 4:20:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: they took all the transactions we did and reversed them, my account is sitting in negative now..lol
[3/20/2013 4:20:13 PM] Jake: Wtf
[3/20/2013 4:20:26 PM] Jake: Are yiu being serious?
[3/20/2013 4:21:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah my paypal account is at like -89$ and they reversed all the transactions
[3/20/2013 4:21:14 PM] Brandon Rikli: back to u i guess
[3/20/2013 4:21:24 PM] Jake: My account is closed..
[3/20/2013 4:22:12 PM] Jake: I just dont understand why it would chargeback
[3/20/2013 4:22:43 PM] Jake: I closed my account and credit card, it just is strange where the money is going.
[3/20/2013 4:22:54 PM] Jake: Are you SURE it is form mine?
[3/20/2013 4:26:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah jake habib. all those payments u sent me
[3/20/2013 4:26:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: i can take a screenshot fi u want
[3/20/2013 4:26:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: but they all went through
[3/20/2013 4:27:11 PM] Jake: I Just dont know where the money is going.
[3/20/2013 4:28:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk it must be whatever card u used
[3/20/2013 7:44:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: what should we do, can you tell them to change it
[3/21/2013 3:58:50 AM] Brandon Rikli: if you could please have this changed or give me back whatever was taken
[3/21/2013 9:11:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: hello.
[3/21/2013 9:24:43 PM] Jake: Hey yeah as soon as I get home
[3/22/2013 3:25:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me know when you can help
[3/22/2013 10:30:22 PM] Brandon Rikli: hello.......
[3/25/2013 12:47:12 AM] Brandon Rikli: hello..are you there
[3/25/2013 1:33:14 PM] Jake: Yes. But still not home.
[3/25/2013 2:26:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright
[3/25/2013 6:52:08 PM] Jake: Called paypal
[3/25/2013 6:52:21 PM] Jake: And paid the credit debt for our payment
[3/25/2013 6:52:28 PM] Jake: You should be good
[3/25/2013 7:01:43 PM] Brandon Rikli: i mean on my account since i sell many accounts. My account was -250$ , so when people were paying my paypal money for what they bought, the debt got taken away
[3/25/2013 7:01:55 PM] Brandon Rikli: so right now my account isnt in debt because of the money from sales i made
[3/25/2013 7:01:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: but yet i lost that money
[3/25/2013 7:02:19 PM] Jake: Hmm, it should be restored now
[3/25/2013 7:03:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: ill give it a bit everything with paypal takes time , but i mean all 4 of those chargebacks went through and were put on ur credit card that u paid with before
[3/25/2013 7:03:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: so im not sure if they are supposed to reverse that
[3/25/2013 7:03:22 PM] Brandon Rikli: or just put the money back on my account, im not sure how ti works
[3/25/2013 7:03:37 PM] Jake: I hate that they are so unclear.
[3/25/2013 7:03:46 PM] Jake: It should be a straight up process
[3/25/2013 7:04:05 PM] *** Brandon Rikli sent paypal1.png ***
[3/25/2013 7:04:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: thats what it shows. So like last week my account balance where it shows on ur profile was red and was showing -248$ or w/e
[3/25/2013 7:04:32 PM] Brandon Rikli: i made a sale for 170
[3/25/2013 7:04:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: so then it was at like -80$
[3/25/2013 7:04:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: then i made another sale and the debt was clear
[3/25/2013 7:04:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: but i still lost out on my sales
[3/25/2013 8:25:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: i guess ill have to call them tomorrow? idk dude
[3/27/2013 12:50:25 AM] Brandon Rikli: i got nothing from paypal yet. if they put the money back on your card did they tell you to resend the payment.
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes / No (optional) Not really
Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional) No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? (optional) 20+ just recently.
Information
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Dispute Date: march / 30 / 2013
Method of Contact Used:skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: jakethesnake12345
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: jakers7
Your Instant Messenger ID: braytac3
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? WoW account that he bought from me through paypal. We did the sale, everything has been absolutely fine for months. All the sudden this month i get a massive chargeback on my paypal account that puts the paypal account in the negatives. I message him immediately asking what is wrong. The whole song and dance he gave me turns out to be pretty faulty. He first told me "someone got a hold of my credit card while i was in the hospital and charged alot of stuff on my credit card" (i guess they also can just chargeback all paypal purchases too? that was pretty sketchy as well) For days and weeks it went on with him saying "im in the hospital" or "i wont be home soon" or "i called paypal and they arent helping" or "paypal said they would give us our money back" etc etc etc. Well its now march 30th and he removed me from skype (as i figured). Nothing else to really explain, he straight up charge back scammed me.
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco.../497095-2500-h-prot-orc-warrior-elite-t2.html
Approximate value of property: $250.00
Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who? N/A
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: ^^^just what was written above. nothing else is necessary now but for screenshots.
Other details / notes: When he was buying the WoW account he said paypal wont let him send any more than like 50$ at a time, so he said can i just send you seperate payments each day? I was fine with that and i let him so, considering also i didn't have to give him the rest of the login information until all the payments went through.
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Chat Logs: [2/9/2013 7:06:31 PM] Jake: Whats up?
[2/9/2013 7:07:09 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey you were looking for a t2 warrior? im looking to get rid of one
[2/9/2013 7:08:01 PM] Jake: Yep, armory?
[2/9/2013 7:08:49 PM] Brandon Rikli: (armory) , has plagued proto and black proto drake, crimson death charger, and a small pve prot set
[2/9/2013 7:09:15 PM] Jake: Only prot pvp set?
[2/9/2013 7:10:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah, nothing has been done on it this week, 3770 to cap and i think like 2k cp on it currently
[2/9/2013 7:10:56 PM] Jake: How much ya looking for?
[2/9/2013 7:11:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: looking for 300 but i can go to like 250, i bought it for 300 and it has alot of upgrades since then
[2/9/2013 7:12:19 PM] Jake: Would you let me log on and check it out before I pay?
[2/9/2013 7:12:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 7:12:48 PM] Jake: Oh wow cool
[2/9/2013 7:16:49 PM] Brandon Rikli: were you interested?
[2/9/2013 7:18:34 PM] Jake: Yep, just gimme a sec
[2/9/2013 7:19:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay
[2/9/2013 7:21:35 PM] Jake: How is he in pvpo?
[2/9/2013 7:22:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: very strong , takes years to kill also
[2/9/2013 7:47:07 PM] Jake: No 2h though?
[2/9/2013 7:47:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya theres no 2h yet
[2/9/2013 7:47:53 PM] Jake: Ahh, can you use the set for arms though?
[2/9/2013 7:49:09 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah, gems would just need to be switched out which he has full proffs and atm 3k gold, has thousands worth of ghost ore atm
[2/9/2013 7:51:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: internet d/c mb
[2/9/2013 7:51:15 PM] Jake: All good
[2/9/2013 7:51:31 PM] Jake: Yeah im very interested man but im on my phone atm, can i pm you later or maybe tomorrow?
[2/9/2013 7:51:37 PM] Jake: Im just oput to dinner
[2/9/2013 7:51:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah thats fine ill be on all night tonight and ill be on tomorrow as well
[2/9/2013 7:52:06 PM] Jake: Aright great
[2/9/2013 10:47:08 PM] Jake: Would you let me test the acount out?
[2/9/2013 10:47:13 PM] Jake: Like go on it?
[2/9/2013 10:48:11 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 10:48:21 PM] Jake: Can I get the login?
[2/9/2013 10:48:23 PM] Jake: No SQ
[2/9/2013 10:48:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah hold on
[2/9/2013 10:49:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay its (*******)
[2/9/2013 10:49:37 PM] Jake: Okay, may get locked
[2/9/2013 10:49:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/9/2013 10:50:02 PM] Jake: yep locked
[2/9/2013 10:51:39 PM] Jake: Just let me know pass when you unlock
[2/9/2013 10:51:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: it's now (******)
[2/9/2013 10:55:03 PM] Jake: Ahh my wow is freezing
[2/9/2013 10:55:06 PM] Jake: lol sec
[2/9/2013 10:55:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: its okay
[2/9/2013 11:00:34 PM] Jake: Looks cool man
[2/9/2013 11:00:45 PM] Jake: Lol you barely have any keybinds
[2/9/2013 11:01:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: eh idk hwo that works
[2/9/2013 11:01:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: like if you
[2/9/2013 11:01:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: log in from a different computer or something
[2/9/2013 11:03:04 PM] Jake: I really like him just wish he had an arms set haha
[2/9/2013 11:04:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya i didnt really know which way to go with him , just tanking was a change up from what i usually do
[2/9/2013 11:21:23 PM] Jake: Mind If I do a bg or two?
[2/9/2013 11:21:37 PM] Brandon Rikli: go ahead im not using it
[2/9/2013 11:21:59 PM] Jake: Oh cool
[2/9/2013 11:26:04 PM] Jake: Im like 99% im gonna buy it
[2/9/2013 11:26:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: great
[2/9/2013 11:39:26 PM] Jake: Whats your paypal email?
[2/9/2013 11:39:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: (******)
[2/9/2013 11:40:11 PM] Jake: You said 250?
[2/9/2013 11:40:18 PM] Jake: I have that in my paypal exactly lol
[2/9/2013 11:40:20 PM] Brandon Rikli: Yeah we can do that
[2/9/2013 11:47:17 PM] Jake: weird wont go through
[2/9/2013 11:47:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: is it giving an error msg
[2/9/2013 11:47:32 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/9/2013 11:47:47 PM] Jake: Saying I need to add funds, then do it
[2/9/2013 11:49:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: u have money in your paypal balance? and it could be giving u an option of what payment method u want to use
[2/9/2013 11:49:20 PM] Jake: Like through a debit card
[2/9/2013 11:50:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: if its saying add funds do u have money in it ? lo
[2/9/2013 11:51:10 PM] Jake: yeah haha
[2/9/2013 11:51:15 PM] Jake: Any other way we can do it?
[2/9/2013 11:52:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: thats really weird that wont work, uhm
[2/9/2013 11:52:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: maybe moneybookers but i havent really used that
[2/9/2013 11:52:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me google ur problem
[2/9/2013 11:52:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: nevr heard of it
[2/9/2013 11:52:47 PM] Jake: Sorry, your payment won't go through. To make it work, you'll need to add money to your account and pay with your PayPal balance.
[2/9/2013 11:54:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: and your trying to send money by clicking "send money" or whatever tab at the top , putting in my e-mail, and clicking send or w/e and it wont let you?
[2/9/2013 11:54:12 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/9/2013 11:54:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: is ur debit card like added onto your account
[2/9/2013 11:55:46 PM] Jake: yep
[2/9/2013 11:55:52 PM] Jake: Lemme call them
[2/9/2013 11:56:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya i've never heard of it,
[2/9/2013 11:56:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: see what they say
[2/9/2013 11:56:25 PM] Jake: Aright man
[2/9/2013 11:56:54 PM] Jake: Do you accept anything else? Like I buy that much in wow gold and give it to you?
[2/9/2013 11:58:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: i wouldn't do that, do u maybe have ur bank account linked to paypal and use that? i mean we can maybe do ******************* and try it through their system , if u ever heard of that website, its a bit of a longer process. or try using moneybookers.
[2/10/2013 12:04:22 AM] Jake: Yeah ill register for MB
[2/10/2013 12:06:44 AM] Jake: Whats your email on moneybookers?
[2/10/2013 12:07:27 AM] Jake: Or are you on playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:07:36 AM] Brandon Rikli: (*******)
[2/10/2013 12:07:38 AM] Brandon Rikli: is for MB
[2/10/2013 12:33:57 AM] Jake: Okay
[2/10/2013 12:34:04 AM] Jake: trying to figure out how to do this
[2/10/2013 12:34:19 AM] Jake: Is it on playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:34:41 AM] Brandon Rikli: its fine
[2/10/2013 12:34:42 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/10/2013 12:34:46 AM] Brandon Rikli: i have to put it up
[2/10/2013 12:34:48 AM] Brandon Rikli: one second finishign
[2/10/2013 12:34:50 AM] Jake: Okay
[2/10/2013 12:36:41 AM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 12:36:48 AM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 12:36:57 AM] Jake: that was it right?
[2/10/2013 12:38:09 AM] Jake: are you verified on paypal?
[2/10/2013 12:43:56 AM] Jake: Okay, I just sent 50
[2/10/2013 12:43:59 AM] Jake: Did you get it?
[2/10/2013 12:44:07 AM] Brandon Rikli: hold on
[2/10/2013 12:44:12 AM] Brandon Rikli: i am verified
[2/10/2013 12:45:10 AM] Jake: It let me send 50, then didnt let me send anymore
[2/10/2013 12:47:57 AM] Jake: Did you get it?
[2/10/2013 12:50:15 AM] Brandon Rikli: alright sorry was in a raid boss
[2/10/2013 12:50:22 AM] Jake: Its alright
[2/10/2013 12:50:24 AM] Brandon Rikli: checking
[2/10/2013 12:51:50 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah it did go
[2/10/2013 12:52:03 AM] Jake: weird. now it wont let me send anymore
[2/10/2013 12:52:09 AM] Brandon Rikli: its gotta be
[2/10/2013 12:52:16 AM] Brandon Rikli: the amount on ur card
[2/10/2013 12:52:17 AM] Brandon Rikli: idk what else
[2/10/2013 12:52:30 AM] Jake: Nope I used a credit card this time
[2/10/2013 12:54:07 AM] Jake: Ugh
[2/10/2013 12:54:16 AM] Jake: Meanwhile, am I allowed to play the account?
[2/10/2013 12:54:24 AM] Jake: Paypal is closed :/
[2/10/2013 12:54:26 AM] Brandon Rikli: yeah go ahead
[2/10/2013 12:54:43 AM] Jake: Alright cool, sorry for the trouble man
[2/10/2013 12:54:47 AM] Brandon Rikli: do u want me to make a playerauctions?
[2/10/2013 12:54:54 AM] Brandon Rikli: for the rest of it
[2/10/2013 12:54:57 AM] Jake: Yeah I mean If you wanna try it
[2/10/2013 12:55:13 AM] Brandon Rikli: they have a different system
[2/10/2013 12:55:19 AM] Brandon Rikli: u just put in ur credit card info
[2/10/2013 12:55:23 AM] Jake: okay cool
[2/10/2013 12:55:36 AM] Jake: You dont have to make it real stuff or whatever
[2/10/2013 12:55:51 AM] Brandon Rikli: ill put it up for 210 since they take out deductions of a % and is usually like close to 10$
[2/10/2013 12:55:54 AM] Brandon Rikli: and ill post link
[2/10/2013 12:55:56 AM] Jake: ok
[2/10/2013 12:59:33 AM] Brandon Rikli: u've gotta be kidding me, error this function cannot be used at this time
[2/10/2013 1:00:04 AM] Jake: What happened?
[2/10/2013 1:00:33 AM] Brandon Rikli: idk this happened the other day also and i contacted PA and they said use a different browser. that doesnt help either, like when i fill everything out and click submit sale, it just says error on a white screen
[2/10/2013 1:01:56 AM] Jake: ahh damn
[2/10/2013 1:02:02 AM] Jake: well ill call paypal tomorrow
[2/10/2013 1:02:18 AM] Jake: I think It has like a daily limit or something now
[2/10/2013 1:02:31 AM] Jake: im gonna see if I can send more tomorrow etc
[2/10/2013 1:02:52 AM] Brandon Rikli: did u buy anything recently was just about to say
[2/10/2013 1:03:06 AM] Brandon Rikli: or we can try moneybookers if u tried that but thats up to u
[2/10/2013 1:03:15 AM] Brandon Rikli: i honestly dont care if we have to wait
[2/10/2013 1:11:43 AM] Jake: Ahh aright, well for now its probably easier if we wait a bit
[2/10/2013 1:12:20 AM] Brandon Rikli: kk
[2/10/2013 5:55:34 AM] Brandon Rikli: lol 5am, going to bed, cyah tomorrow
[2/10/2013 5:55:37 AM] Brandon Rikli: feel free to play
[2/10/2013 3:29:38 PM] Jake: dude it wont let me get on the account
[2/10/2013 3:41:24 PM] Jake: did you change the pass?
[2/10/2013 3:43:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: no
[2/10/2013 3:44:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u sure ur doing
[2/10/2013 3:44:05 PM] Jake: Yep
[2/10/2013 3:44:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: (*********)
[2/10/2013 3:44:11 PM] Jake: It says the guy is online now?
[2/10/2013 3:44:18 PM] Brandon Rikli: hold on
[2/10/2013 3:45:18 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me do a recovery and re-do it then not sure
[2/10/2013 3:46:17 PM] Jake: Okay cool
[2/10/2013 3:47:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk i just simply password recovered not sure what to tell you unless u let someone else on it or something
[2/10/2013 3:47:38 PM] Jake: Did you change the pass?
[2/10/2013 3:47:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: its (******)
[2/10/2013 3:47:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: no i didnt
[2/10/2013 3:48:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: i just woke up
[2/10/2013 3:48:26 PM] Jake: Hope it wasn't OO
[2/10/2013 3:48:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: on my e-mail it tells me when password was changed
[2/10/2013 3:48:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: i got a "password change notice" at 1:32 pm
[2/10/2013 3:48:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: today
[2/10/2013 3:49:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: nothing is changed on the character itself right?
[2/10/2013 3:50:03 PM] Jake: all the gold is gone :/
[2/10/2013 3:50:16 PM] Brandon Rikli: really/
[2/10/2013 3:50:22 PM] Jake: Yeah but its alright
[2/10/2013 3:50:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk what to even say
[2/10/2013 3:50:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: all that sounds like
[2/10/2013 3:50:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: is a hacker.
[2/10/2013 3:50:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: one of those guys who sell gold
[2/10/2013 3:51:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: got on the account, traded it or sent it to one of his people
[2/10/2013 3:51:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: does it still have all the ghost iron ore stacks?
[2/10/2013 3:52:07 PM] Jake: Nope..
[2/10/2013 3:53:25 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah absolutely sounds like one of those european/foreign guys on the forums that always say they are "buying gold"
[2/10/2013 3:53:27 PM] Jake: Can bliz rollback?
[2/10/2013 3:53:31 PM] Brandon Rikli: someone's in your computer maybe
[2/10/2013 3:53:51 PM] Jake: Nope not my computer, I work sometimes as a computer tech
[2/10/2013 3:53:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: why would someone get a password, log into it, grab the gold and iron ore, and do nothing else
[2/10/2013 3:54:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: lol
[2/10/2013 3:54:07 PM] Jake: lol I guess it was a farmer lol
[2/10/2013 3:54:11 PM] Jake: Ill still buy it
[2/10/2013 3:54:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: if u send in a ticket
[2/10/2013 3:54:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: you could probably talk to someone about it
[2/10/2013 3:54:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: they will tell you at one time someone logged in etc
[2/10/2013 3:54:30 PM] Jake: Aright cool
[2/10/2013 3:54:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: they have to have a record of every IP address on your account
[2/10/2013 3:55:27 PM] Jake: Just sent you another 50 by the way
[2/10/2013 3:55:35 PM] Jake: I guess I can only send 50 per day or something
[2/10/2013 3:55:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: is there like a limit you put on your account
[2/10/2013 3:56:20 PM] Jake: Nope, I called and they said it was an error on their part and trying to fix it
[2/10/2013 3:57:19 PM] Jake: but is it cool if its all there by tuesday?
[2/10/2013 3:57:30 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/10/2013 3:57:39 PM] Jake: Sorry dude :/
[2/10/2013 3:57:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: just make sure when it gives you the choice to send as goods service or gift , send it as gift because deductions keep getting taken out of the other ones you sent, if its as gift theres no taxes or whatever , its ok for now just for the other ones
[2/10/2013 3:57:58 PM] Jake: ya I sent as gift
[2/10/2013 3:58:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh okay
[2/10/2013 3:58:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: i guess on the first one a couple dollars got taken, thats fine though
[2/10/2013 3:58:35 PM] Jake: Ahh okay
[2/10/2013 9:33:49 PM] Jake: Dude
[2/10/2013 9:33:57 PM] Jake: did you geta nother password change notice?
[2/10/2013 9:34:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: ?
[2/10/2013 9:34:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me check
[2/10/2013 9:35:04 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay i see right now
[2/10/2013 9:35:11 PM] Jake: I recovered it
[2/10/2013 9:35:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: an e-mail showing all of the things that are eligible for restore
[2/10/2013 9:35:14 PM] Jake: Like the items
[2/10/2013 9:35:22 PM] Jake: Yeah that was me
[2/10/2013 9:35:34 PM] Jake: I got everything back
[2/10/2013 9:35:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: nothing else for passwords um
[2/10/2013 9:35:42 PM] Brandon Rikli: ill try to log in
[2/10/2013 9:37:37 PM] Brandon Rikli: i think the person is still in my skype possibly
[2/10/2013 9:37:42 PM] Brandon Rikli: do u have a phone or something
[2/10/2013 9:37:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: i can text u
[2/10/2013 9:37:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: the new pass
[2/10/2013 9:37:58 PM] Jake: yep
[2/10/2013 9:38:01 PM] Jake: (*****)
[2/10/2013 9:38:13 PM] Jake: can I change the email?
[2/10/2013 9:39:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: i want to make sure we can stop this from happening, if it happens again ill change it to a new one and see if that does anything, im going to give it a day or so to see if it continues or not
[2/10/2013 9:39:24 PM] Jake: okay cool
[2/10/2013 9:39:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: theres a thing on the forums , when i was trying to trade to some foreign guy
[2/10/2013 9:39:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: i think he sent me a link in an e-mail , i thought it was the password reset i had to do to unlock a diablo 3 account
[2/10/2013 9:39:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: i clicked it and he was in my epicnpc accuont and he was somehow logged into my skype
[2/10/2013 9:40:00 PM] Brandon Rikli: while i was
[2/10/2013 9:40:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: like he could type to other people with me watching
[2/10/2013 9:40:19 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk if he ever got out, my virus scan shows nothing yet he was still changing my passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:26 PM] Jake: hmm
[2/10/2013 9:40:27 PM] Brandon Rikli: he cant find out anything else just passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:30 PM] Brandon Rikli: and while im typing u the passwords
[2/10/2013 9:40:31 PM] Jake: so ya just text me
[2/10/2013 9:40:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: he might be seeing it
[2/10/2013 9:40:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: i texted u it
[2/10/2013 9:41:05 PM] Brandon Rikli: but ya there was basically someone who could watch my skype conversations and type to people like it's me
[2/10/2013 9:41:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk how he did it but
[2/10/2013 9:41:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u completely sure u dont have any hackers
[2/10/2013 9:41:36 PM] Jake: positive
[2/10/2013 9:41:45 PM] Jake: yersterday I only used my desktop
[2/10/2013 9:41:58 PM] Jake: Today after it got hacked, I only used my laptop
[2/10/2013 9:42:32 PM] Brandon Rikli: i mean its nothing to be worried about its just super annoying and stupid
[2/10/2013 9:42:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: somehow was changing pass
[2/10/2013 9:42:51 PM] Jake: Yeah I know
[2/11/2013 4:40:08 PM] Brandon Rikli: Hey at work till 9
[2/11/2013 9:22:03 PM] Jake: Aright man np
[2/11/2013 10:50:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: im home
[2/11/2013 10:51:01 PM] Jake: Hey man gonna send you another 50 now
[2/11/2013 10:51:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: okay thats so funny
[2/11/2013 10:51:47 PM] Jake: snt
[2/11/2013 10:51:50 PM] Jake: sent*
[2/11/2013 10:51:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright idk why its making u do that
[2/11/2013 10:52:05 PM] Jake: Ya I know haha
[2/13/2013 9:38:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: hows it goin
[2/13/2013 9:38:19 PM] Jake: Good, sending another 50 right now
[2/13/2013 9:38:28 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright
[2/13/2013 9:39:18 PM] Jake: Sent 100
[2/13/2013 9:39:22 PM] Jake: So that should be it right?
[2/13/2013 9:39:27 PM] Jake: 250
[2/13/2013 9:39:44 PM] Brandon Rikli: ya thats good, it let u sent 100 now? lol
[2/13/2013 9:39:48 PM] Jake: Ya haha
[2/13/2013 9:39:54 PM] Jake: Aight I can change email?
[2/13/2013 9:39:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah
[2/13/2013 9:40:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: warr is
[2/13/2013 9:40:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: (******)
[2/13/2013 9:41:29 PM] Jake: Ok cool
[2/13/2013 9:41:49 PM] Jake: Comke with ID or no?
[2/13/2013 9:42:31 PM] Brandon Rikli
******)[2/13/2013 9:42:47 PM] Brandon Rikli: we can give eachother rep if u'd like
[2/13/2013 9:42:52 PM] Jake: Yeah sure
[2/13/2013 9:42:56 PM] Jake: Name?
[2/13/2013 9:43:13 PM] Brandon Rikli: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...44-looking-geared-t2-warrior.html#post2889308 i was the last guy krajee1 to post on ur thread
[2/13/2013 9:43:34 PM] Jake: ah
[2/13/2013 9:43:57 PM] Jake: How do you give rep on here?
[2/13/2013 9:44:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: just go to my profile like
[2/13/2013 9:44:20 PM] Brandon Rikli: click on my name and click view profile
[2/13/2013 9:44:25 PM] Brandon Rikli: then the feedback tab and submit feedback
[2/13/2013 9:44:26 PM] Jake: Got that
[3/12/2013 5:17:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: are u jake habib?
[3/12/2013 5:20:55 PM] Brandon Rikli: Reason your doing charge backs on paypal without talking?
[3/12/2013 5:39:41 PM] Jake: Dude im not sure whats happening, my credit card was stolen.
[3/12/2013 5:40:03 PM] Jake: Ive been in the hospital and I got a bill for $2550
[3/12/2013 5:43:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: really? wow , the WoW account i sold u on paypal
[3/12/2013 5:43:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: there was an "unauthorized" chargeback for everything
[3/12/2013 5:44:06 PM] Brandon Rikli: so i just sent them and told them what u said and everything
[3/12/2013 7:43:21 PM] Jake: Okay no problem
[3/12/2013 7:43:36 PM] Brandon Rikli: can u access ur paypal account and just
[3/12/2013 7:43:41 PM] Brandon Rikli: cancel the chargeback thing
[3/12/2013 7:43:53 PM] Jake: It wont let me, thats how they stole all the money form me
[3/12/2013 7:44:30 PM] Jake: Again I apologize, I wasn't thinking about the sale, I was pretty upset :/
[3/13/2013 3:36:00 AM] Brandon Rikli: well i might have to call paypal or something, im not going to be very happy if they take 250$ back from me..
[3/13/2013 3:36:10 AM] Brandon Rikli: this is so confusing i dont even understand
[3/13/2013 7:19:19 AM] Jake: I know, Im not sure why paypal would even do this, Ill call later today.
[3/13/2013 2:55:35 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah i mean if u tell them that u dont want that they would most likely listen to u better than me, im not even sure if they will deal with me
[3/13/2013 3:57:28 PM] Jake: Yeah they're being pricks about it since I cancelled my credit card. They're putting me on a "hold list" until my bank verifies me.
[3/13/2013 3:57:42 PM] Jake: Such bull**** to be honest.
[3/13/2013 3:58:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: i dont mind waiting, just as long as it'll get taken off my account. i have -250 balance showing on my account lol
[3/13/2013 3:58:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: any money i get from sales just goes into the debt
[3/13/2013 4:00:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: like did you call them?
[3/13/2013 4:11:14 PM] Jake: Yep.
[3/13/2013 4:11:29 PM] Jake: JUst some indian guy answered who doesnt know anything.
[3/13/2013 4:11:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: lol
[3/13/2013 4:11:52 PM] Brandon Rikli: did he say what happens now
[3/13/2013 4:12:09 PM] Jake: Now its a waiting process depending on my banks hours of operation.
[3/13/2013 4:12:31 PM] Jake: Anyways, im working more now so ill see if I can grab a debit card and loa money into a new paypal.
[3/13/2013 4:42:53 PM] Brandon Rikli: ok
[3/15/2013 4:55:17 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey any word yet from them
[3/15/2013 4:55:44 PM] Jake: Yep, they're sending me a paypal credit card I need to use.
[3/15/2013 4:56:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh alright, will that like settle the unauthorized chargebacks i got
[3/15/2013 5:00:33 PM] Jake: Yeah. I hope so.
[3/15/2013 5:00:56 PM] Jake: Im getting calls 24/7 from them, I dont understand why they cant get theyre **** together.
[3/15/2013 5:01:38 PM] Brandon Rikli: Like simply reverse everything they did . honestly that chargeback system they have is just cancerous to the website and its users. I cant see when chargebacks would ever be a good thing to have on the website, id put a stop to those immediately
[3/15/2013 5:02:00 PM] Jake: Same here buddy.
[3/15/2013 5:02:29 PM] Brandon Rikli: Even if your telling them "hey , whoever did that isnt me, someone obviously has my card. I did not do this" they will still take forever
[3/15/2013 5:02:43 PM] Brandon Rikli: theres only one you..
[3/15/2013 5:02:54 PM] Jake: Exactly. I provided ID, everything.
[3/15/2013 5:03:04 PM] Jake: Still they have to "go through their system"
[3/15/2013 5:03:08 PM] Jake: So much more stress.
[3/15/2013 5:03:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: yep and another load of days it will probably take them, not sure if they even do that stuff on weekends lol, whatever
[3/18/2013 9:37:12 PM] Brandon Rikli: any idea whats going on yet
[3/18/2013 11:58:03 PM] Jake: Not yet. Hopefully soon, Im having some heart surgery done over the next fer hours.
[3/18/2013 11:58:21 PM] Brandon Rikli: oh wow, hope that goes well
[3/18/2013 11:58:34 PM] Jake: Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.
[3/18/2013 11:59:58 PM] Brandon Rikli: yup
[3/19/2013 8:17:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: each one of these chargebacks seem to be going back to your card...my account is going into the negatives
[3/19/2013 8:17:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
[3/19/2013 8:20:34 PM] Brandon Rikli: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
[3/19/2013 8:20:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: funds recovered from seller, cannot be disputed in sellers favor
[3/20/2013 4:05:07 PM] Brandon Rikli: hey you around?
[3/20/2013 4:17:03 PM] Jake: Hey bud im on my phone, whats up?
[3/20/2013 4:20:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: they took all the transactions we did and reversed them, my account is sitting in negative now..lol
[3/20/2013 4:20:13 PM] Jake: Wtf
[3/20/2013 4:20:26 PM] Jake: Are yiu being serious?
[3/20/2013 4:21:10 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah my paypal account is at like -89$ and they reversed all the transactions
[3/20/2013 4:21:14 PM] Brandon Rikli: back to u i guess
[3/20/2013 4:21:24 PM] Jake: My account is closed..
[3/20/2013 4:22:12 PM] Jake: I just dont understand why it would chargeback
[3/20/2013 4:22:43 PM] Jake: I closed my account and credit card, it just is strange where the money is going.
[3/20/2013 4:22:54 PM] Jake: Are you SURE it is form mine?
[3/20/2013 4:26:48 PM] Brandon Rikli: yeah jake habib. all those payments u sent me
[3/20/2013 4:26:54 PM] Brandon Rikli: i can take a screenshot fi u want
[3/20/2013 4:26:57 PM] Brandon Rikli: but they all went through
[3/20/2013 4:27:11 PM] Jake: I Just dont know where the money is going.
[3/20/2013 4:28:23 PM] Brandon Rikli: idk it must be whatever card u used
[3/20/2013 7:44:45 PM] Brandon Rikli: what should we do, can you tell them to change it
[3/21/2013 3:58:50 AM] Brandon Rikli: if you could please have this changed or give me back whatever was taken
[3/21/2013 9:11:24 PM] Brandon Rikli: hello.
[3/21/2013 9:24:43 PM] Jake: Hey yeah as soon as I get home
[3/22/2013 3:25:56 PM] Brandon Rikli: let me know when you can help
[3/22/2013 10:30:22 PM] Brandon Rikli: hello.......
[3/25/2013 12:47:12 AM] Brandon Rikli: hello..are you there
[3/25/2013 1:33:14 PM] Jake: Yes. But still not home.
[3/25/2013 2:26:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: alright
[3/25/2013 6:52:08 PM] Jake: Called paypal
[3/25/2013 6:52:21 PM] Jake: And paid the credit debt for our payment
[3/25/2013 6:52:28 PM] Jake: You should be good
[3/25/2013 7:01:43 PM] Brandon Rikli: i mean on my account since i sell many accounts. My account was -250$ , so when people were paying my paypal money for what they bought, the debt got taken away
[3/25/2013 7:01:55 PM] Brandon Rikli: so right now my account isnt in debt because of the money from sales i made
[3/25/2013 7:01:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: but yet i lost that money
[3/25/2013 7:02:19 PM] Jake: Hmm, it should be restored now
[3/25/2013 7:03:03 PM] Brandon Rikli: ill give it a bit everything with paypal takes time , but i mean all 4 of those chargebacks went through and were put on ur credit card that u paid with before
[3/25/2013 7:03:15 PM] Brandon Rikli: so im not sure if they are supposed to reverse that
[3/25/2013 7:03:22 PM] Brandon Rikli: or just put the money back on my account, im not sure how ti works
[3/25/2013 7:03:37 PM] Jake: I hate that they are so unclear.
[3/25/2013 7:03:46 PM] Jake: It should be a straight up process
[3/25/2013 7:04:05 PM] *** Brandon Rikli sent paypal1.png ***
[3/25/2013 7:04:26 PM] Brandon Rikli: thats what it shows. So like last week my account balance where it shows on ur profile was red and was showing -248$ or w/e
[3/25/2013 7:04:32 PM] Brandon Rikli: i made a sale for 170
[3/25/2013 7:04:40 PM] Brandon Rikli: so then it was at like -80$
[3/25/2013 7:04:46 PM] Brandon Rikli: then i made another sale and the debt was clear
[3/25/2013 7:04:51 PM] Brandon Rikli: but i still lost out on my sales
[3/25/2013 8:25:59 PM] Brandon Rikli: i guess ill have to call them tomorrow? idk dude
[3/27/2013 12:50:25 AM] Brandon Rikli: i got nothing from paypal yet. if they put the money back on your card did they tell you to resend the payment.
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