gw2 isnt pay to win at all its all mostly cosmetics lmfao, so i dunno how u can pay to win in this game when u all get same stats once in pvp lmfao dumbass, and also it sitll has a very good player base of over 250k players still definaly a good mmo choice here, graphics are amazing, combat/gameplay so fluent u actually feel like your connecting to mobs, the quest system is very unique, compared to all other mmos out there, now mounts are in the game, only problem is, it only get good once u max level bro, not hard to get there though but the story keep u interested i started up yesterday im now level 52, only dumped like 14 hours into it, but im taking it slow getting to feel the game n loving it...