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Insi84 is a Scammer MD: Insi84 AIM: yellowbearattack Scammer Alert!

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Here is the thread where I'm selling the gold Selling Gold thread

You'll see he posted on there, he has 9 positive on his ratings and 1 neutral. Thought he was trustful since he's been on this forum for over 2 years with those ratings.
As of now he stole 12k gold from me on Frostmourne and suppose to pay me $180. This is messed up


This is the whole history:
He is yellowbearattack

Session Start (heltorn:yellowbearattack): Tue Jun 03 10:37:14 2008
[10:37] yellowbearattack: hello
[10:37] *** Auto-response sent to yellowbearattack: I am currently away from the computer.
[10:38] yellowbearattack: i posted in your thread
[10:38] yellowbearattack: (Link: http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...649#Post1461649
[10:51] Heltorn: hello there
[10:51] yellowbearattack: hi
[10:51] yellowbearattack: yea i was interested in the frostmourne gold
[10:52] Heltorn: ahh how much were you interested in? there is 12390 in all
[10:52] yellowbearattack: if i bought 12k
[10:52] yellowbearattack: could i get 15 per?
[10:53] Heltorn: hmm yeah if you were to buy all of that 15 per k discount would be fine indeed
[10:54] yellowbearattack: um curiously how would the deal be done?
[10:54] yellowbearattack: i have quite a bit of rep
[10:56] Heltorn: I've only sold characters so far and building my good rep up but since you look to have some good rep maybe I can give gold and then you pay over paypal
[10:57] yellowbearattack: if you want we can do it less than 12k
[10:57] yellowbearattack: but if ure comfortable
[10:57] yellowbearattack: we can just do 12k
[10:58] Heltorn: since you've been on markee a couple of years and such I feel the whole 12k would be fine
[10:58] yellowbearattack: so that would be 180$ total?
[10:58] Heltorn: yes indeed
[11:00] Heltorn: As soon as the server comes back up we can do the transaction, from what I gather meeting face to face and giving the gold $900 or less at a time with an item in trade window is the safest waY?
[11:00] yellowbearattack: alrighty i need to go make an alt on frostmoune, gonna go transfer my main to frost after
[11:00] yellowbearattack: when transfer is up
[11:01] Heltorn: ahh
[11:01] yellowbearattack: yea had to find cheaper gold o.o
[11:02] yellowbearattack: oh yea im paypal verified as well
[11:02] yellowbearattack: if your wondering hehe
[11:03] Heltorn: even better hehe
[11:03] yellowbearattack: i think some of the servers are back up
[11:03] yellowbearattack: not too sure about frostmourne
[11:04] yellowbearattack: frostmoune thats a oceanic right?
[11:04] yellowbearattack: gonna be moving to australia later this year
[11:06] Heltorn: yes it's oceanic, whoa where are you moving from?? why australia hehe
[11:07] yellowbearattack: ah for uni heh
[11:07] yellowbearattack: took a 2 year break
[11:07] yellowbearattack: so starting back up agian
[11:09] Heltorn: ahh nice!
[11:14] yellowbearattack: o hey curiously
[11:14] yellowbearattack: would you be interested in a 70 priest?
[11:14] yellowbearattack: for gold as well?
[11:14] yellowbearattack: possibly future trade
[11:14] yellowbearattack: or this?
[11:17] Heltorn: hmm right now just this is fine, thanks though
[11:18] yellowbearattack: alrighty heh
[11:27] yellowbearattack: alright ig otta go afk for a while ill be back in a bit
[20:20] Heltorn: I should be around off and on almost all night
[03:53] yellowbearattack: o hi
[03:53] yellowbearattack: u here?
[19:12] Heltorn: ahh yes I am now
[20:26] yellowbearattack: heh we kinda keep mising each other
[21:16] Heltorn: hehe back again
Session Close (yellowbearattack): Thu Jun 05 00:19:45 2008


Session Start (heltorn:yellowbearattack): Thu Jun 05 09:40:31 2008
[09:40] yellowbearattack: hi u here?
[09:40] *** Auto-response sent to yellowbearattack: I am currently away from the computer.
[17:15] Heltorn: hello
Session Close (yellowbearattack): Thu Jun 05 17:16:05 2008


Session Start (heltorn:yellowbearattack): Thu Jun 05 23:44:40 2008
[23:44] yellowbearattack: gwahh noo
[23:44] *** Auto-response sent to yellowbearattack: I am currently away from the computer.
[23:44] yellowbearattack: u here?
[23:44] yellowbearattack: i gotta go out for 3 hours anyway
[23:44] yellowbearattack: ill be back then
[02:29] yellowbearattack: hi here?
[08:43] yellowbearattack: hopefully we can meet up today
Session Close (yellowbearattack): Sun Jun 08 23:11:24 2008


Session Start (heltorn: yellowbearattack ): Mon Jun 09 12:13:50 2008
[12:13] yellowbearattack : hey hel
[12:13] *** Auto-response sent to yellowbearattack : I am currently away from the computer.
[12:13] yellowbearattack : u there?
[12:14] yellowbearattack : ah ha
[12:14] Heltorn: hello there
[12:14] yellowbearattack : finally we meet lol
[12:14] yellowbearattack : at the same time
[12:14] Heltorn: hahaha whoa haha
[12:16] Heltorn: Let's see where were we
[12:16] yellowbearattack : i was gonna go make an alt on frostmourne
[12:16] yellowbearattack : then we meet in game
[12:19] Heltorn: oh yeah Character with money is a tauren in bloodhoof village
[12:20] yellowbearattack : ah
[12:20] yellowbearattack : maybe i should just make a tauren then
[12:20] yellowbearattack : tauren shaman!
[12:20] yellowbearattack : no druid opness >_<
[12:20] Heltorn: haha
[12:21] yellowbearattack : alright should i go make the char now?
[12:22] yellowbearattack : lemme think of a good name o.o
[12:22] Heltorn: yes, character with gold name is Emmee
[12:22] yellowbearattack : Steak >_<
[12:22] yellowbearattack : i wonder if thats taken lol
[12:22] Heltorn: haha
[12:23] yellowbearattack : how long u gonan be on?
[12:23] yellowbearattack : might take a while to think of a cool name
[12:23] yellowbearattack : or maybe ill just make some random name
[12:23] yellowbearattack : if you have to leave soon
[12:23] Heltorn: going to be around for a couple of hours no rush really
[12:23] yellowbearattack : alrighty
[12:23] yellowbearattack : lemme think of a good name
[12:23] yellowbearattack : heh
[12:24] yellowbearattack : oh and
[12:24] yellowbearattack : i found the safest way to do it
[12:24] yellowbearattack : is to form a guild
[12:24] yellowbearattack : promote me to leader
[12:24] yellowbearattack : then move it into guild bank
[12:24] yellowbearattack : through the guild bank
[12:24] Heltorn: ahh ok i was wondering the best way
[12:24] yellowbearattack : yea atlest that way you wont have to worry about your char
[12:25] yellowbearattack : account getting banned
[12:25] yellowbearattack : i mean whos to say its not for the guild fund -.-
[12:25] yellowbearattack : yea? heh
[12:25] Heltorn: yeah haha
[12:25] yellowbearattack : actually
[12:25] yellowbearattack : can you meet me?
[12:25] yellowbearattack : send me like 20g
[12:25] yellowbearattack : so i can buy signatures
[12:25] yellowbearattack : to form a guild
[12:26] Heltorn: alright
[12:26] yellowbearattack : ill make an orc
[12:26] yellowbearattack : and run to
[12:26] yellowbearattack : ogrim
[12:28] yellowbearattack : okay char is
[12:28] yellowbearattack : Ylwbear
[12:30] Heltorn: ok sent through mail
[12:30] yellowbearattack : alright
[12:30] yellowbearattack : oh noy 1 hour wait lol
[12:30] Heltorn: haha
[12:31] yellowbearattack : lol i'll let you knwo when the guild is set up then heh
[12:43] yellowbearattack : o hey still here?
[12:43] yellowbearattack : i should go make a tauren
[12:44] yellowbearattack : then send the mail to myself
[12:44] Heltorn: ahh good idea
[12:44] yellowbearattack : char name is
[12:44] yellowbearattack : Steakrus
[12:45] yellowbearattack : ure in the starter village yea?
[12:51] yellowbearattack : theres not a bank there yea
[12:51] yellowbearattack : u'll need to get to a bank
[13:02] yellowbearattack : lol this server is so empty ;p
[13:02] yellowbearattack : cant find people to do the signature hehe
[13:16] yellowbearattack : o hey you still here?
[13:26] Heltorn: yeah at the thundercluff bank
[13:26] yellowbearattack : guild is made
[13:26] yellowbearattack : gotta turn in the charter
[13:26] Heltorn: awesome
[13:26] yellowbearattack : god
[13:26] yellowbearattack : i had to run to uc
[13:26] yellowbearattack : and everywhere -.-
[13:26] yellowbearattack : lol
[13:27] Heltorn: wow haha
[13:32] yellowbearattack : sent you a guildinvite
[13:39] yellowbearattack : paypal add?
[13:39] Heltorn: paypal add is *******@hotmail.com
[13:39] yellowbearattack : is that double dash?
[13:39] Heltorn: yes
[13:39] yellowbearattack : okay
[13:40] yellowbearattack : one econd i need to turn off my usip
[13:40] yellowbearattack : this will take 2 seconds
[13:41] *** " yellowbearattack " signed off at Mon Jun 09 13:41:00 2008.



<span style='font-size: 11pt'>So here I am days later still awaiting payment but he is offline so I create another AIM account and see that he is ONLINE. Obviously he put me on ignore.</span>

I'm Biolaugh
Session Start (BIOLAUGH: yellowbearattack ): Wed Jun 11 20:12:51 2008
[20:22] Biolaugh: So it's been about 51 hours now, I love how it took 2 seconds, I assume you've turned off your "usip" by now. Nice that you have me on ignore, When are you going to send the $180 for the 12k gold you bought from me?

[20:46] Biolaugh: Well?
[20:46] Biolaugh: As I'm sure you know this is Heltorn. I highly recommend you pay me, after over 2 years on markee you choose me to try this with or what? Surely you are not going to try to scam me and risk your reputation and more?
[20:51] *** " yellowbearattack " signed off at Wed Jun 11 20:51:46 2008.

<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Here's him offline </span>
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<span style='font-size: 11pt'>Here's him online -- note the time.</span>
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Here is some of his emails and such for starters...

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
AIM-yellowbearattack
real name -Aaron Lim

So becareful everyone! And I'm only getting started.
if you're reading this, SCAMMER Insi84, I'm still giving you a chance to pay me the $180. This is ridiculous.
 
Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/595830-Gregindahood-possible-scammer?p=3458668#post3458668
yeah he and i traded...i didnt give him full rogue info so its good.
 
Banned
1) To the gold accusation, I didnt acept the gold in game. which in turn you said you would ruin my markee rep.

2) to the rogue, who are you? if you check the posts i havent dealt with you before at all.
 
Is that the best you can do scammer? Surely you are joking? You are saying you didn't accept the gold in the game and that I said I would ruin your markee rep for not buying my gold? That doesn't even make sense at all, our whole conversation is posted above. You are caught.

Liar, you made a guild with your character you made named Steakrus. I even gave you 20 extra gold so you could pay 10 people 2 gold each to start the guild. Since doing the deal by putting the gold in the guildbank is the safest way, you temporarily made me leader, I put the 12k gold in the guildbank. Quite funny you are on here lying even after ripping me off like that. I have posted my proof, where is yours liar?
 
Exenztrix, that's a damn good question, I'm really confused and paranoid as hell to sell anything more now thanks to him. That was tons of work to get 12k gold and I simply want my gold back or the $180. He still has both of my aims on block and notice he is not responded to this thread at all besides his blatant lie above.
 
Guess you got lucky itismario, did you give him the gold before he paid like I idiotically did?
Check out his post above about not accepting the gold in the game, does that even make sense at all? Not sure how much more proof is needed.
Better yet, you should have <span style="font-weight: bold">him</span> post screenshots of our conversations.
 
<span style="color: #00CCCC"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-weight: bold">Like itsmario said, I think the admins would want solid proof of screenshots.

Just screenshot your AIM convos and post them up.

I hope it is resolved quickly.</span></span></span></span>
 
Not sure what your deal is but I have no problem posting the screenshots, I'll get those right up! The point I was trying to make is that noone was questioning the scammer or respond to his joke of a post for some reason. This is my first time getting screwed over like this so I don't know all the procedures... Here are all the screenshots day by day... Can't get any better than this.
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There we go, yay.
Also mario did you give him the gold first or no?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Insi84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1) To the gold accusation, I didnt acept the gold in game. which in turn you said you would ruin my markee rep.

2) to the rogue, who are you? if you check the posts i havent dealt with you before at all. </div></div>

thanks for posting screenies, it does look like he could scam but, i'm still on insi's side because i've dealt with him before and i trust his word

what i think what happened was in game he didn't want the gold he told you he doesn't want it anymore, you got mad and threatened to ruin his rep like he says, he got mad at you for saying something stupid like that and ignored you on aim

if this is what happened insi was childish on his end and so were you for the threat =( but i'm just going to take his word on it
 
proof was asked for and to post the screen shots or it didnt happen.
The man does as requested, and then its (ill trust him cause he never scammed me before)
This makes no sense at all.
Hope you get your gold back,
I challenge him to post the screenies now of saying (I DONT WANT THE GOLD) or the screeny of his claims youd rune his rep. Bet this cant be done.
Bump for the OP
 
i don't recall saying screenshots make or break the scam =(
but now we all know he was telling the truth about the convo =)

btw what skins do you have for trillian? that looks cool
 
He posts once and never comes back. And in that post didn't offer ANYTHING.

He certainly seems like he is legit.

*rolls eyes*
 
This should be obvious as well but why would we go to all the trouble of making a guild to put the gold in the guildbank..etc...and then risk getting banned by talking about selling or buying gold in the game?
Basically the only dialogue in the game was me basically saying "here" as I sent him the 20 gold so he could pay 10 people 2 gold each to start the guild, him in general chat offering 2 gold to people and then after I put the 12k gold in the guildbank, him pretty much saying "alright let's not talk about this here"

I see he has not posted on here again still, and I still don't have my $180 or the 12k gold back..
 
Bump for an admin to come in herr. Alexandra always seems buzy.

I know you are all busy but the evidence appears to be GREATLY pointing to another idiot scammer.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sakura</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bump for an admin to come in herr. Alexandra always seems buzy.

I know you are all busy but the evidence appears to be GREATLY pointing to another idiot scammer. </div></div>

Sadly yes I am always busy.


Insi84 I gave you plenty of oppertunity to work this out. My last PM to you went unread .

Once you work this out with this user let me know.

Until then your account is banned.
 
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