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I traded for an 80 Nelf warrior that was attached to a battlenet account. I have had the account for over 4 months. Last Friday it was unmerged, recalled and remerged to a new account.

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Hello Victor,

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I sent Hardstylin a PM on MD yesterday asking for a response. Nothing after 24 hours. I sawhim online thismorning, talked to him for bout 1 min. Here is that post:

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Saturday, July 25, 2009
J0nathanv (3:01:10 PM): I need to talk to you, the warrior account you traded me was unmerged and remerged into another account
Sunday, July 26, 2009
J0nathanv (8:30:20 AM): Hey hard, I had the account you traded me get recalled.
J0nathanv (8:30:29 AM): I need to get this resolved asap please
Hardstylin returned at 8:31:28 AM
J0nathanv (8:32:06 AM): you avail?
Hardstylin (8:38:18 AM): Hey.
J0nathanv (8:38:26 AM): hey hard
J0nathanv (8:39:18 AM): so that account we traded got taken off the battlenet account and merged to another account
Hardstylin (8:39:36 AM): I never traded you that account.
J0nathanv (8:39:58 AM): it was merged to a bnet account
J0nathanv (8:40:02 AM): 80 warrior
J0nathanv (8:40:05 AM): nelf
Hardstylin (8:40:37 AM): Well I don't remember it.
J0nathanv (8:40:47 AM): uhh sc
J0nathanv (8:40:48 AM): sec
Hardstylin (8:41:20 AM): I need to go we'll talk tomorrow about it./
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Odd replay because I have the info he gave me but just logged and putting me off for a day.

I will update this accordingly as things happen.
 
From our IM conversation this 2mins ago:
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hardstylin is available (6:13:46 PM)
J0nathanv (6:13:53 PM): Now do you have time to talk
Hardstylin (6:14:00 PM): Yes.
J0nathanv (6:15:11 PM): this is the warrior I traded for
J0nathanv (6:15:11 PM): http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...DPS#Post2584622
Hardstylin (6:16:20 PM): What was the battle.net account name?
J0nathanv (6:16:32 PM): it was under XXXX
J0nathanv (6:16:38 PM): I changed the account name to mine
J0nathanv (6:16:47 PM): the orig wow account was XXXXXX
Hardstylin (6:16:49 PM): I need the battle.net account name.
J0nathanv (6:16:51 PM): it was merged
J0nathanv (6:17:44 PM): sec
J0nathanv (6:22:13 PM): once you change the battnet log in theres no way to go back and find out what it was
J0nathanv (6:22:22 PM): but im still lookin
Hardstylin (6:22:28 PM): Unless you were smart and wrote it down when we did the transaction.
J0nathanv (6:22:43 PM): XXXXX - SQA: XXXX
XXXXXX - SQA: XXXXX
Auth: 1462608322
From AIM: Hardstlin
J0nathanv (6:22:52 PM): thats what I have
J0nathanv (6:26:00 PM): still looking
J0nathanv (6:26:55 PM): # Name:

XXXXXX
# Address:
XXXXX r*** **
XXXX XX, XXXX
United States
# Primary Phone:
******1458
J0nathanv (6:27:35 PM): thats all I have atm
J0nathanv (6:28:07 PM): so what yuor saying is your not goign to do a damn thing, knowing you traded me the account but need the bnet address that you gave me 6 months ago?
Hardstylin (6:28:41 PM): Yes because without knowing the battle.net account name I cannot look up the account details and do something about it.
J0nathanv (6:29:01 PM): what information do you have
J0nathanv (6:29:17 PM): the last name was XXXX, fist name was XXXX
J0nathanv (6:29:28 PM): bnet dosent keep a histroy of accounts once you change the email
Hardstylin (6:29:38 PM): Nothing, I document my accounts by account name, I do not have the account name therefore I cannot look up the account details.
J0nathanv (6:29:56 PM): the account name is XXXXXX
Hardstylin (6:30:05 PM): I need the battle.net account name.
Hardstylin (6:30:10 PM): That's what I documented it as.
J0nathanv (6:30:32 PM): what account details do you have
J0nathanv (6:30:36 PM): match up with I am giving you
J0nathanv (6:30:39 PM): with what you have
Hardstylin (6:31:26 PM): I don't think you understand, I document my accounts by the account name, I do not have the account name therefore I cannot look up the account.
J0nathanv (6:31:48 PM): Im lost
J0nathanv (6:32:01 PM): if you have documentaion then just match XXXXX with your account
J0nathanv (6:32:06 PM): or the sqa XXXX
J0nathanv (6:32:08 PM): as the pets name
J0nathanv (6:32:12 PM): that you have to have
Hardstylin (6:32:27 PM): Erm what?
J0nathanv (6:32:28 PM): you keep mroe than the bnet name
Hardstylin (6:32:49 PM): How am I meant to match ben smith with the account when I document my accounts by account name?
J0nathanv (6:33:11 PM): Let just say I give you the account name, then what?
J0nathanv (6:33:27 PM): you look up the details then I assume
Hardstylin (6:33:33 PM): Then I can look up the account and try to contact the person I got it from.
J0nathanv (6:33:49 PM): Heres all the information
J0nathanv (6:34:02 PM): if you have your documentation then you will have one of these
J0nathanv (6:34:13 PM): XXXXis the battlent account name
J0nathanv (6:34:18 PM): XXXX is the wow account name
Hardstylin (6:34:26 PM): Are you stupid? I cannot look up the account because I do not have the battle.net account name.
J0nathanv (6:34:27 PM): XXXXX is the orig owners name
J0nathanv (6:35:27 PM): Im so lost, so basically you keep nothing no records and have accounts just recalled because the only thing you keep is the account name?
J0nathanv (6:35:45 PM): when thats the only thing you can change on the bnet account
Hardstylin (6:36:15 PM): Oh my..no I keep full account details but I DOCUMENT my accounts by the account name.
J0nathanv (6:36:42 PM): If you keep FULL documents then look it up by what I gave you, You do have the SQA, ORIG name etc
Hardstylin (6:36:56 PM): I can't, my computer isn't that smart sorry.
J0nathanv (6:37:13 PM): computer isnt that smart.....
Hardstylin (6:37:15 PM): The details are in notepad files, okay?
J0nathanv (6:37:22 PM): find XXXX
J0nathanv (6:37:25 PM): find XXXX
J0nathanv (6:37:30 PM): find XXXXXXX
Hardstylin (6:37:32 PM): I cannot just search the SQA on my computer and hopefully it will find it in one of the notepad files.
Hardstylin (6:37:44 PM): I did not trade the account to you as XXXXX
Hardstylin (6:37:50 PM): I traded it to you as the battle.net account name.
J0nathanv (6:37:54 PM): it was merged to a battlenet account
Hardstylin (6:37:54 PM): So that's what I have documented.
J0nathanv (6:38:06 PM): then do some searching to find it?
J0nathanv (6:38:08 PM): maybe?
J0nathanv (6:38:20 PM): click open the notpads and look?
Hardstylin (6:38:22 PM): Lol, I have had a lot of accounts.
Hardstylin (6:38:29 PM): I'm not going to open all 500+ of them.
J0nathanv (6:39:03 PM): so basically your not going to help me at all, when I provided you everythign excep the bnet name
J0nathanv (6:39:12 PM): but have everything else because your lazy?
Hardstylin (6:39:18 PM): Lol lazy?
Hardstylin (6:39:30 PM): I'm not looking through 500+ files sorry.
Hardstylin (6:39:43 PM): Just because you were too stupid to document the account name.
J0nathanv (6:39:55 PM): Yeah again lazy, if I had someone who I traded with and that person got [censored], then I would do my damndest to correct it, but your unwilling
Hardstylin (6:40:12 PM): Right, you would look through 500+ files, mmk.
J0nathanv (6:40:16 PM): yes I would
J0nathanv (6:40:24 PM): damn right I would, its called integrity
J0nathanv (6:40:32 PM): its called donig the right thing
Hardstylin (6:40:35 PM): Well I'm not going to sorry.
J0nathanv (6:40:59 PM): so your refusing to help me with an account you traded me cause your lazy...wow man thats pretty sad
Hardstylin (6:41:00 PM): Next time document all the info and maybe I can help you.
Hardstylin (6:41:15 PM): [censored] off, call me lazy one more time mate.
J0nathanv (6:41:19 PM): Do you keep IM logs?

J0nathanv (6:42:33 PM): well what else is it then, if your unwilling to do ANYTHING when I provided you the Bnet account name, orig wow account info, that orig owners name, the SQA to both of the accounts, but yet you wont help becuase I changed the email on the bnet account....that makes no sense
Hardstylin (6:43:00 PM): I cannot do anything because I do not know the battle.net account name.
Hardstylin (6:43:08 PM): I think that's the 10th time I've said that.
J0nathanv (6:43:17 PM): you can do soemthing, you can go thru your documents and find that one
Hardstylin (6:43:18 PM): It's not that I'm unwilling, I cannot do anything without the account name.
Hardstylin (6:43:27 PM): Nah sorry not looking through all of them.
J0nathanv (6:43:28 PM): its gonna take a few, but arent willing too
J0nathanv (6:43:38 PM): again, thats not the right thing to do and you know it
Hardstylin (6:43:51 PM): Pfft, you wouldn't do it mate don't kid yourself.
J0nathanv (6:43:55 PM): yes I would
Hardstylin (6:44:00 PM): Nah you wouldn't sorry.
J0nathanv (6:44:06 PM): and so would all the +repped members on MD too
J0nathanv (6:44:22 PM): Ive had to deal with chain recalls and made it right to everyone of the people I delt with
J0nathanv (6:44:37 PM): your just unwilling
Hardstylin (6:44:40 PM): Right, try asking a website to look through all of their account files just because you didn't document the account name.
J0nathanv (6:44:42 PM): which is really sad
J0nathanv (6:45:07 PM): dunno, Id juststart flipping thru them
J0nathanv (6:45:17 PM): even if it took a few days I wouldnt care
Hardstylin (6:45:19 PM): Nah you wouldn't.
J0nathanv (6:45:24 PM): so long as I knew you were trying
J0nathanv (6:45:27 PM): yes I would
Hardstylin (6:45:44 PM): Well I'd like to help but I'm not doing that sorry, and you wouldn't either.
J0nathanv (6:46:03 PM): again your unwiling and you dont know me to say that I wouldnt
J0nathanv (6:46:07 PM): pretty sad man
Hardstylin (6:46:33 PM): Nah that's just silly.
J0nathanv (6:46:42 PM): silly or not its the right thing to do
J0nathanv (6:47:32 PM): what if I gave you a date
Hardstylin (6:47:32 PM): Well sorry I'm not doing that, I don't have the time.
J0nathanv (6:47:39 PM): that would narrow it down wouldnt it
Hardstylin (6:47:48 PM): Not really.
Hardstylin (6:47:55 PM): I need the account name.
J0nathanv (6:47:58 PM): June 8th is when we did the transaction
J0nathanv (6:48:38 PM): so basically your gonna do nothing, not even to try to make it right then?
Hardstylin (6:50:25 PM): I can't.
Hardstylin (6:50:42 PM): I need the account name sorry.
J0nathanv (6:50:55 PM): Ok just so you know this is going on MD
J0nathanv (6:51:13 PM): I really wished you would have tried to resolve this
Hardstylin (6:52:37 PM): Go for it mate, I cannot do anything without the account name.
J0nathanv (6:53:17 PM): No theres a differnce then cannot and wont, because you wont do it
J0nathanv (6:53:31 PM): you wont do whats right, Id give you a few days to look thru it
J0nathanv (6:53:35 PM): but your unwilling
J0nathanv (6:53:47 PM): that isnt a cannot that is will not because you dont want too
Hardstylin (6:55:06 PM): I don't have the time to look through 500+ files sorry, lol.
J0nathanv (6:55:26 PM): ya unwilling
Hardstylin (6:56:19 PM): Eh if you want to call it that.
Hardstylin (6:56:45 PM): How about YOU look through all your files, just to find the account name, okay? Or are you unwilling?
J0nathanv (6:56:53 PM): I did
J0nathanv (6:56:57 PM): I gave you everything I have
Hardstylin (6:57:02 PM): No you didn't.
J0nathanv (6:57:34 PM): yes I have
Hardstylin (6:57:53 PM): Sorry I don't believe you.
J0nathanv (6:58:24 PM): wow. I lost the account and you resort to that?
Hardstylin (6:58:41 PM): Well you're being unwilling to look through all of your files.
J0nathanv (6:59:03 PM): ok so you lose a 400.00 account
J0nathanv (6:59:10 PM): why would I NOT look for the information?
J0nathanv (6:59:13 PM): honestly?
Hardstylin (6:59:55 PM): Lol, what you're asking me is rediculous.
Hardstylin (7:00:04 PM): I'm not looking through 500+ folders I'm sorry.
J0nathanv (7:00:31 PM): Again Im asking you to do whats right. Take a few days to look, whatever I dont care. Point is your not goign to do it
Hardstylin (7:01:29 PM): No I'm not because it's stupid.
Hardstylin (7:01:41 PM): And don't say 'well I would do it if it was me' because you wouldn't.
J0nathanv (7:02:04 PM): You dont know me, yes I would. We are going round and round with this. good luck
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Its still going on If a mod would like me to send you the logs Id be more than happy too.
 
sounds like a horrible person
 
It better be. I'm getting REALLY tired of seeing these "Hardstylin scammed me" posts.
 
Sorry just got back from holiday.
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I've tried to assist him, I simply cannot do anything unless I have the account name, my accounts are filed via account name so without that I cannot look up the relevant information needed.

Sorry I'm not going to look through every single account folder I've ever had just because he was too silly to document it at the time.

And no I'm not 'homg a bad trader' just because you didn't get your way buddy.
 
My way? I provided you EVERYTHING else except the Bnet account name, because we changed that day 1. Not sure if you know that but when you change your email address to YOUR email address it changes too. Again as I mentioned in the IM, I didnt care how long it took, just so long as I knew you were going to do the right thing.

You are not doing the right thing and pretty much everyone here knows it.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: darknife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My way? I provided you EVERYTHING else except the Bnet account name, because we changed that day 1. Not sure if you know that but when you change your email address to YOUR email address it changes too. Again as I mentioned in the IM, I didnt care how long it took, just so long as I knew you were going to do the right thing.

You are not doing the right thing and pretty much everyone here knows it.

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Lol, yeah I know how a battle.net account works, thanks bud.

Without the account name I cannot do anything sorry, I've look through my accounts in that date range and I'm unable to find anything that relates to the date we had the transaction.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hardstylin, I agree that Darknife should have been more responsible in documenting what was the original email address used for the Bnet account login...however, when someone is scammed, it throws a wrench in everything.

This, however, does not relieve you of any accountability. I would advise you take the timeframe to which this transaction occurred and you start your search there. I expect resolution within 72 hours.

On a side note, I'd advise on an easier, user-friendly search option to avoid these issues in the future. </div></div>

So I have an account issue with another member on this website, it's been over 3 months and nothing has been done, yet when one of Hardstylin's account has a problem I have 72 hours? How the [censored] does that work?
 
i know i have nothing to do with this but the easiest way to find the info he is looking for is to just check the aim logs he had with this buyer

simple and takes only 10 minutes or so to scroll through a chat log to the date and time of the deal done here
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TRIPLESINNER</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i know i have nothing to do with this but the easiest way to find the info he is looking for is to just check the aim logs he had with this buyer

simple and takes only 10 minutes or so to scroll through a chat log to the date and time of the deal done here </div></div>

Yes that would be the easiest way although I recently purchased a new laptop and transferred everything from my PC to that and sold my PC, some files went missing in the process.
 
Banned - multiple accounts - scammer - karoism
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ace Logan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It better be. I'm getting REALLY tired of seeing these "Hardstylin scammed me" posts. </div></div>

Usually when there's smoke there's fire... and its getting kind of smokey.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hardstylin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hardstylin, I agree that Darknife should have been more responsible in documenting what was the original email address used for the Bnet account login...however, when someone is scammed, it throws a wrench in everything.

This, however, does not relieve you of any accountability. I would advise you take the timeframe to which this transaction occurred and you start your search there. I expect resolution within 72 hours.

On a side note, I'd advise on an easier, user-friendly search option to avoid these issues in the future. </div></div>

So I have an account issue with another member on this website, it's been over 3 months and nothing has been done, yet when one of Hardstylin's account has a problem I have 72 hours? How the [censored] does that work? </div></div>

Like who?
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ICouldUseaTickle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would a rep'd seller/trader not have an Account name?

Also They will tell you witch account it is when you get the email that it has been merged.
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I do have the account name, I just don't know the account name in question that I traded to him.
 
K if you keep your Account info on your computer which i assume you do, Go to the Window Start Tab Type in the Sq/a which arent very Common and it should bring up all folders with that Word in it?

And bam there's your Account info, simple, easy and takes 5 seconds...

I do that all the time if i forget something in my trade logs...
 
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Oddly enough it was the OO who recalled the account. Apparently hes some 17 year old in Glendale AZ, who decided it would be wise to use his personal email address to recall it. Plug that information into facebook and Myspace works wonders.

Is it Hardstylin that scammed me, I would say no at this point, however that doesn't absolve him of any wrong doing. I was told the account was safe and coming from someone with 30+ positive ratings, one would argue that's pretty safe.

The reason I am posting this is to let the community know that I am willing to compromise with Hard on this issue as it was semi out of his control, however he feels to repay me is completely up to him. [censored] happens, on MD recalls happen, but I know for fact, when that happened to me or any trades I enter in, I make damn sure to fix it.

Balls in your court now Hard, PM, IM or leave a post here on what you can do to fix this.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: darknife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In respect to someones comment about smoke...I just did a random search on Hardstylin and came up with the following "smokey" posts

http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...lin#Post1765009

http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/...stylin'/Search/true/Re_HARDSTYLIN#Post2605127

Coincidence...I think not...Just adding more proof to the pot so that people know with eyes wide open what they are possibly getting in too.</div></div>

Do you notice how the first thread you linked had no proof at all and was clearly just some kid that got jealous?

And the second thread, that was all sorted out.

Mordred, I didn't know that would search inside notepad files etc, I don't think it would work at all.

What can I possibly do? I don't have any accounts nor money due to being screwed over my xAtomlab (and no it wasn't over 3 months ago when I first bought it up so don't use that as an excuse.)

I just find it a bit funny and odd at the same time that MarkeeDragon would ask me to assist in an account recall (which I can't anyway), yet when I asked for help for an account issue with a different member, everyone looked the other way and said "tough luck".
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: darknife</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oddly enough it was the OO who recalled the account. Apparently hes some 17 year old in Glendale AZ, who decided it would be wise to use his personal email address to recall it. Plug that information into facebook and Myspace works wonders.

Is it Hardstylin that scammed me, I would say no at this point, however that doesn't absolve him of any wrong doing. I was told the account was safe and coming from someone with 30+ positive ratings, one would argue that's pretty safe.

The reason I am posting this is to let the community know that I am willing to compromise with Hard on this issue as it was semi out of his control, however he feels to repay me is completely up to him. [censored] happens, on MD recalls happen, but I know for fact, when that happened to me or any trades I enter in, I make damn sure to fix it.

Balls in your court now Hard, PM, IM or leave a post here on what you can do to fix this.</div></div>

You wanted to bring it to MD, it's on MD now mate, we'll sort it out on MD.

I've already told you <span style="font-style: italic">countless</span> times I cannot do anything without the account name.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mordred69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does search inside of notepad, i do it daily
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Hmm, don't know why I thought you were KnuckleHead..

Okay I'll give it a go.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mordred69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">best insult you gave me to date Hard
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lol </div></div>

Haha, my bad.
 
Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/407058-scammer-blackmeth-levalon-aim-oursmithfamily05.html
i've had a previous problem with hardstylin about 2 months ago.. a acnt he said was 100% safe was taken back. and all the gold and a lvl 80 dk xferred off.. I had posted about was that possible.. before becuase ididn't know if it was possible to just xfer off the dk or not. but i had to get a hold of the 00 and ask him.. and he sent me to the kid he traded it to who there sold or traded it to hardstylin.. the 2nd owner had recalled it.. i had to recall it.. using the 00.. he helped me get it back and then i was able to get a authenticator on it.. and it was recalled 2 weeks later again.. and when the kid seen i had a auth on it.. he has yet to try to take it back yet.. and i had contacted hardstylin about 4 times.. in a week period and i never got replies.. or i got hold on.. im a tad busy.. so i gave up on him... some people on here just don't care once that cash hits they pockets.. is a shame..
 
Banned - banned
He simply will buy and sell anything to get money in his pocket, he has no security on any account he ever owns.

Please note this & take into consideration when deciding on your actions.


Need more insight to what we are trying to explain in this post, email [email protected] and we can clarify/answer any questions.

We do not post in scammer threads as to MD's rules so hope you understand we are not here to flame or bash, just want to make sure no one is screwed over YET again by hard.

After the excuses and BS we have read, it gives all sellers on MD a bad name.
 
KcJ YOU ARE NOT "WE"

And you just posted in someones thread basically advertising your website.. [censored]
 
Here is a sugesstion also on how to find the account name easily.

1. Browse to your WoW Folder (C:/Program Files/World of Warcraft is the default.)

2. Inside the WoW folder there are several different folders, find the one labeled '[censored].'

3. Now inside the '[censored]' folder there are usually two folders/files 'Account' folder and Config.[censored], open the folder labeled 'Account.'

4. Voila done, you now have the account names of all the accounts you logged into your WoW with now the job is to click open all of them and see if the a folder labeled with the realm name isn there, click that and see if a folder labeled with the character name there is located within in the realm folder.

Now I am not sure if this has been posted as I read over this thread since it was opened and my memory is as not as fresh as it was those few days ago.

Note: The process will not work that I listed if you downloaded someone else's UI and used it for a different account as it will only list that account (most of the times unless you backed up your '[censored]' folder.)
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Firstly, I was not the moderator who intervened to assist in the thread with xAtomlab. The thread was closed because you were able to resolve the situation yourselves (at least, there has been no further mention of continued issues with that particular transaction).

Secondly, this thread addresses a transaction that occurred rather recently, not a transaction (as with xAtomlab) that occurred 3+ months prior. Don't compare this thread/issue with the previous thread involving xAtomlab. They're apples from different trees.

Thirdly and finally, if this were a trade transaction, then one of three things will need to happen to resolve the situation. A.) Return whatever item of interest that was traded to you for the recalled account, B.) Assist in the recovery of said recalled account and/or C.) Determine comparable compensation (either an account of equal or better value or comparable monetary value)</div></div>

No the thread was closed because MarkeeDragon wants nothing to do with me, as all of my other scammer threads are closed for the same reason.

And no, for the 10th time, when I had posted the scammer thread the transaction <span style="font-weight: bold">was</span> recently, not over 3 months ago, although who would believe me over any other member, right?

This person hasn't contacted me since, he wanted to sort it out on MD so we'll battle it out on the forums just like he chose to, I just don't see why I should assist, when I asked for help nothing was done and the thread was closed.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alexandra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chris have you been able to recover the account name? You have been given good advise here by Mord and Ra1der.
I would hate to see this end badly .</div></div>

No, I don't even know the account details, this guy has been yet to contact me regarding it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: levalon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i've had a previous problem with hardstylin about 2 months ago.. a acnt he said was 100% safe was taken back. and all the gold and a lvl 80 dk xferred off.. I had posted about was that possible.. before becuase ididn't know if it was possible to just xfer off the dk or not. but i had to get a hold of the 00 and ask him.. and he sent me to the kid he traded it to who there sold or traded it to hardstylin.. the 2nd owner had recalled it.. i had to recall it.. using the 00.. he helped me get it back and then i was able to get a authenticator on it.. and it was recalled 2 weeks later again.. and when the kid seen i had a auth on it.. he has yet to try to take it back yet.. and i had contacted hardstylin about 4 times.. in a week period and i never got replies.. or i got hold on.. im a tad busy.. so i gave up on him... some people on here just don't care once that cash hits they pockets.. is a shame..</div></div>

Who are you? Do you have any proof of this transction or just another Hardstylin hater?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KcJAccounts.com</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He simply will buy and sell anything to get money in his pocket, he has no security on any account he ever owns.

Please note this & take into consideration when deciding on your actions.


Need more insight to what we are trying to explain in this post, email [email protected] and we can clarify/answer any questions.

We do not post in scammer threads as to MD's rules so hope you understand we are not here to flame or bash, just want to make sure no one is screwed over YET again by hard.

After the excuses and BS we have read, it gives all sellers on MD a bad name.</div></div>

Won't even bother with you mate, you've got to be the most hated and disliked reseller on this site yet you try to bash other members when they have account issues?

Mate your list of account issues is countless, the amount of threads of you in the Rants section is countless, the only decent thing you have on this website is your post count and that is not very impressive.

I don't give any sellers a bad name, you made a bad name for yourself bro, sorry but you were responsible for that one, I've <span style="text-decoration: underline">always</span> assisted in my minimal account issues, yet I just don't feel I should this time due to MD turning their back on me in a previous problem I had with another member.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I don't even know the account details, this guy has been yet to contact me regarding it.</div></div>

That is incorrect. I gave you everything I have except the Bnet name, which was changed on the day we traded.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: darknife</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, I don't even know the account details, this guy has been yet to contact me regarding it.</div></div>

That is incorrect. I gave you everything I have except the Bnet name, which was changed on the day we traded.</div></div>

I can't remember that from a few days ago.
 
All i see is hard defending himself
I would ban him if he doesn't put more effort.
All i se here is him defending himself with flames
Np defense in retrieving account information
Why not go through your own aim logs to see the account you sold
I'd give him 24 hours before the ban hammer is slammed
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
I myself dont know either of the 2 dealing with this thread. but no account is fully secure and hard is right.. almost every reseller has hundreds n hundreds of text files of account they put underneath the username. i wouldnt go threw it either if i was him thats alot of time to deal with. now darknife on the other hand was prolly tryin to trade the account got scammed n now wants a new account or the account back or he got it banned... 1 of the two
 
I assumed you kept logs of our IM chats a few days ago. Because yet again, I feel its the right thing to do, I have sent GBS a PM with all the account info. She can send it to you so that theres no mistake that you didnt get it.

What I find odd, I saw you online IM last night, if this was something you really needed then I assumed you would have asked a lot sooner then 10 hours before your deadline.
 
No idea why Im even offering this to you, but for the sake of keeping your +35 Rating etc on MD, muchless not being banned, Here are some ways you can compensate me for my loss.

1. Recover account
2. Provide me a 2 full set of wow keys (120.00)+ 1 Game card (30.00): So I can RAF
3. Provide me 1 set of WoW keys (60.00) + powerleveling to 80 by a repped member who dosent take 10 years. (120.00)
4. Pay for my lotro the lifetime account (199.00)
5. Provide me 20k gold on my sever (180.00)

I think those options are fair for what I paid for the account, I actually losing out, but Im trying to compromise.
 
Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/407058-scammer-blackmeth-levalon-aim-oursmithfamily05.html
Hard.. of course you have no recognition of me.. course not.. YOU LOST that acnt info as well huh? your a joke.. and you can keep making excuses.. when ur banned for being a complete jerk and you dont' care about nothing accept money in your pocket.. you can take ur unsafe accnts elsewhere to sell..
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: levalon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hard.. of course you have no recognition of me.. course not.. YOU LOST that acnt info as well huh? your a joke.. and you can keep making excuses.. when ur banned for being a complete jerk and you dont' care about nothing accept money in your pocket.. you can take ur unsafe accnts elsewhere to sell.. </div></div>

I could say the same about you man- purchased a gnome warrior from you probably a good year ago that got locked, yet when I contacted you, you were a complete [censored] and gave me a guilt trip about getting my money back.

That is neither here nor there, only point of me replying is dont act like your perfect...its markee dragon...accounts will get locked/banned/recalled etc Hard has countless rep so I have full confidence that this guy is legitimate and if a toon gets recalled/locked I would have confidence that the guy will compensate- and if not, then hell yea he should be banned.
 
Sorry I was redirected here by a customer who said my name was mentioned.

I don't have much to say or atleast I don't want to change the subject on to my own dispute with Hard, but

"What can I possibly do? I don't have any accounts nor money due to being screwed over my xAtomlab (and no it wasn't over 3 months ago when I first bought it up so don't use that as an excuse.)" - Hardstylin.

It was for a $140 account :S Human Priest in blues/nub epics back in the day :S

I don't see how his saying its not his fault / his not responsible where I've contacted the OO countless times for him because within our dispute, the account randomly received a mobile authenticator, and apparently I'm completely at fault 100% when the OO doesnt even have an IPhone ( Only iPhones can apply mobile authenticators, so I'm told ). Not saying the OO couldn't have put a friends Iphone authenticator on it .. but anyways.

Best of luck Hard.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Logma321</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I myself dont know either of the 2 dealing with this thread. but no account is fully secure and hard is right.. almost every reseller has hundreds n hundreds of text files of account they put underneath the username. i wouldnt go threw it either if i was him thats alot of time to deal with. now darknife on the other hand was prolly tryin to trade the account got scammed n now wants a new account or the account back or he got it banned... 1 of the two</div></div>

You've been asked and told before not to involve yourselves in threads to which you have NO involvement. This thread is no different. If I have to warn you once more, I will request, on your behalf, a short vacation from the site.

This does not exclude any other members posting their 2 cents in this thread. If you have no involvement, move along...I hear there's a Disney movie playing in the Rants and Raves section. </div></div>

^this...seriously guys...
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
I've spoken personally with Alexandra about that post that GBS has posted and he well have a talk with GBS.
 
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