got scammed for $450 need help!

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Hey guys!

So last friday i bought a rank1 warlock from John (animalcrackr) (<- thats his skype). I talked to dontb0therme previously about the transaction but he thought this guy a little bit fishy.
He seemed fine with me, he had verified paypal, send me id scans, pics about his credit card and anything. Im going to post his id somewhere so if someone could tell if its fake or not that would be awesome.
So i payed him $450 and he gave me all the details of the account. I logged in changed the email, and xfered the lock to a new server but the account got permanently banned. I told him about it and he recovered the account but he said that he has got a buyer and hes going to sell the warlock to this guy and just refund me the $450.
I was okay thats cool but after he sold it to FancyMMO (he told he he bought the lock, and posted it up here http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...d-warlock-3x-glad-legendary-staff-decked.html just giving a heads up do NOT buy that account its a scam)
I contacted fancymmo but he did not care at all and told me to go **** myself. Very nice from a trusted person...
I opened a dispute on paypal (unfortunately) saying that i bought virtual goods but they do not cover them.
Any helps how to get my money back?


By the way here is a template if needed but this John is not on epicnpc. He had a profile on MaskedCrusader but was banned for no reason i think: View Profile: animalcrackr - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - MaskedCrusader.com

Information
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Date that scamming took place: e.g. aug 8, 2012
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: skype: animalcrackr
Your Instant Messenger ID: psyicho
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: -
Other information:

Scam Information
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What was scammed? $450
Link of transaction thread: -
Approximate value of scammed property: $450 USD

Was a middleman used? no
If yes, who?
Describe how you were scammed: Described above the guy is not ignoring me, he is online i send him msg's but he is not answering.
Other details / notes: skype log: (honestly idk which part should i copy here)

[2012.08.07. 20:33:29] John (animalcrackr): Okay, here is my characters:
Main Warlock: Jaydes @ Frostmourne - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
My Druid: Animalcrkr @ Emerald Dream - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
My DK: Ensläved @ Lightning's Blade - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
My alt warlock: Symbolix @ Lightning's Blade - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
My priest: Animalcwacka @ Emerald Dream - Game Guide - World of Warcraft
[2012.08.07. 20:36:07] barney: hmmm
[2012.08.07. 20:36:18] barney: nice one
[2012.08.07. 20:36:30] barney: are you the oo?
[2012.08.07. 20:36:39] John (animalcrackr): yep
[2012.08.07. 20:36:49] John (animalcrackr): now, i will tell you upfront, because i want to be honest
[2012.08.07. 20:37:20] John (animalcrackr): My account has been hacked 3 times, but it was my own fault, I didn't buy into the whole authenticator thing for a long time. Other than that, the account is clean, noone has any of the info, i've since changed the email and everything
[2012.08.07. 20:37:29] John (animalcrackr): i had a keylogger on my old computer for the longest time
[2012.08.07. 20:38:03] John (animalcrackr): but I am the original owner, this is my Arena Junkies profile if it helps: Animalcrackr - Viewing Profile - Arena Junkies
[2012.08.07. 20:38:11] John (animalcrackr): i can post something on it, if u want,
[2012.08.07. 20:39:31] barney: its totally fine
[2012.08.07. 20:39:38] barney: i dont have us client on my pc atm
[2012.08.07. 20:40:43] barney: hm
[2012.08.07. 20:40:58] barney: do you have a verified paypal with the same name as your battl.net account?
[2012.08.07. 20:41:06] John (animalcrackr): I do
[2012.08.07. 20:41:14] John (animalcrackr): it's: [email protected]
[2012.08.07. 20:43:24] barney: okay
[2012.08.07. 20:43:32] barney: are you willing to provide an id scan?
[2012.08.07. 20:44:10] barney: also i will need a little something. i would need an id scan next to a current newspaper next to a little note saying that i sold my account
[2012.08.07. 20:44:39] barney: so that way if any recalls happens i can tell blizzard that we both violated the eula and therefore they ban the lock permanetlu
[2012.08.07. 20:44:41] John (animalcrackr): I could prbly do that, i think i get a paper every morning
[2012.08.07. 20:44:44] barney: (not accusing you)
[2012.08.07. 20:44:57] barney: amazing
[2012.08.07. 20:45:00] barney: cool
[2012.08.07. 20:45:09] barney: how come you are selling this nice acc tho
[2012.08.07. 20:45:25] John (animalcrackr): Well
[2012.08.07. 20:45:35] John (animalcrackr): I honestly haven't played in the past 3 months, other than a day here or there
[2012.08.07. 20:45:41] John (animalcrackr): and before that, the only reason i played was w/ my gf
[2012.08.07. 20:45:49] John (animalcrackr): she just sold her account for 3,000$ to khaccounts
[2012.08.07. 20:45:55] John (animalcrackr): she had like 188 mounts, an amazing account
[2012.08.07. 20:46:05] John (animalcrackr): so i'm just trying to get out of the game finally
[2012.08.07. 20:46:08] John (animalcrackr): i've played way too long
[2012.08.07. 20:46:12] John (animalcrackr): i haven't enjoyed it in a long time

[2012.08.08. 22:01:08] barney: give me your paypal email
[2012.08.08. 22:01:15] John (animalcrackr): [email protected]
[2012.08.08. 22:01:22] John (animalcrackr): you can see, i've had it since 2005
[2012.08.08. 22:01:24] John (animalcrackr): efore gmail was around
[2012.08.08. 22:01:28] John (animalcrackr): hence the different address
[2012.08.08. 22:01:34] barney: ait
[2012.08.08. 22:01:35] barney: well
[2012.08.08. 22:01:40] barney: i have to take a chance
[2012.08.08. 22:01:53] barney: there is really no real proof of both sides being legit
[2012.08.08. 22:01:57] barney: i just cross my fingers i guess
[2012.08.08. 22:02:03] barney: but you dont seem to be a scammer
[2012.08.08. 22:02:03] barney: so
[2012.08.08. 22:02:04] barney: yeah
[2012.08.08. 22:02:06] barney: okay
[2012.08.08. 22:02:12] barney: 450 to [email protected]
[2012.08.08. 22:03:08] barney: [email protected]?
[2012.08.08. 22:03:13] John (animalcrackr): yes
[2012.08.08. 22:07:46] barney: Csaba, you have sent $450.00 USD to John Gibson.
[2012.08.08. 22:08:12] John (animalcrackr): ok cool, i got it
[2012.08.08. 22:08:16] John (animalcrackr): The Product keys-

WOTLK
Transaction ID #: LAFGYZ
Account Name: WOW1
Account Verification Key: (xxxxxxxxxxxx)

TBC
Transaction ID #: LAFGWY
Account Name: WOW1
Account Verification Key: (xxxxxxx)

And this email says about trial restrictions being removed, and having a full account and features:
Account Name: WOW1
Account Authentication Key: (xxxxxxx)
[2012.08.08. 22:08:20] John (animalcrackr): those are the account keys
[2012.08.08. 22:08:37] John (animalcrackr): i have to look for the cata one, it's in an old email i'll go through it later
[2012.08.08. 22:08:44] barney: kk
[2012.08.08. 22:08:46] barney: sqa?
[2012.08.08. 22:09:07] John (animalcrackr): favorite sports team: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[2012.08.08. 22:09:37] John (animalcrackr): paypal takes literally an 18 dollar cut
[2012.08.08. 22:09:38] John (animalcrackr): yikes

account banned
[2012.08.09. 18:34:05] barney: ***Notice of Account Closure***

Account Name: WOW1

Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Abuse of the Economy

This account was closed because one or more characters were identified exchanging, or contributing to the exchange of, in-game property (items or gold) for "real-world" currency. This exchange process negatively impacts the World of Warcraft game environment by detracting from the value of the in-game economy.

Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner can still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.

We've found the above behavior is many times directly related to groups responsible for compromising World of Warcraft accounts; we take these issues very seriously. To better understand our position against exploitative activity and the risks involved, please review this article: Impact of Buying Gold - Services - World of Warcraft

The exploitative activity that took place on this account violates the World of Warcraft Terms of Use. We ask you take a moment to review these terms at Blizzard Entertainment:Blizzard Legal Documentation. Note that additional Terms of Use violations may result in more severe actions against this account, up to and including permanent closure.

If you believe your account was compromised, please go to the following website https://us.battle.net/account/support/account-recovery.html. Our support staff will assist you as soon as possible. If you are unable to access your account due to the password being changed, please visit our Login Support site here: https://us.battle.net/account/support/password-reset.html

For any disputes of this action or further information on exploitive activity, please visit the Account Administration Overview and contact page here: Account Administration Overview - Battle.net Support

Regards,

Customer Services
Blizzard Entertainment
World of Warcraft
[2012.08.09. 18:34:59] barney: what options do we have
[2012.08.09. 18:35:19] barney: you have to say account got compromised and it was not you who exchanged gold for real money
[2012.08.09. 18:44:39] barney: let me know when ur here
[2012.08.09. 19:34:13] John (animalcrackr): that happened now?
[2012.08.09. 19:34:21] barney: yes
[2012.08.09. 19:34:30] John (animalcrackr): ...wtf
[2012.08.09. 19:34:41] barney: no idea i opened a ticket
[2012.08.09. 19:34:52] barney: cant figure out why is it banned
[2012.08.09. 19:35:27] barney: well two options really. you sold carries for real money or blizzard somehow knew that you sold the account
[2012.08.09. 19:35:37] barney: waiting for blizz to reply to the ticket
[2012.08.09. 19:36:12] John (animalcrackr): when was the ban
[2012.08.09. 19:36:18] barney: today
[2012.08.09. 19:36:21] barney: like an hour ago
[2012.08.09. 19:36:23] barney: i was doin 3s
[2012.08.09. 19:36:26] John (animalcrackr): did u just change the email and **** earlier?
[2012.08.09. 19:36:27] barney: and got dcd
[2012.08.09. 19:36:30] barney: yes
[2012.08.09. 19:36:35] John (animalcrackr): cuz by the looks of it
[2012.08.09. 19:36:41] John (animalcrackr): it happened right when u did that
[2012.08.09. 19:36:42] barney: i changed email, pass and xfered it
[2012.08.09. 19:36:47] barney: well not right away
[2012.08.09. 19:36:52] barney: but yeah it might be
[2012.08.09. 19:37:11] John (animalcrackr): I mean, you have all of the info for the account
[2012.08.09. 19:37:14] John (animalcrackr): just see what they say in response
[2012.08.09. 19:37:27] John (animalcrackr): because i haven't sold rating in wow in literally like.... 4 or 5 months
[2012.08.09. 19:37:46] barney: they might need more than that thi
[2012.08.09. 19:37:53] barney: thats why i needed to keep in touch
[2012.08.09. 19:39:08] John (animalcrackr): let me know what they say in the ticket
[2012.08.09. 19:39:19] barney: /sigh
[2012.08.09. 19:39:27] John (animalcrackr): u should just say "I changed my account into my new e-mail, and transfered to a new server to start fresh for MoP"

[2012.08.10. 5:47:29] John (animalcrackr): u didn't get much sleep
[2012.08.10. 5:47:30] John (animalcrackr): lol
[2012.08.10. 5:47:34] John (animalcrackr): still haven't heard back from blizz
[2012.08.10. 5:47:35] John (animalcrackr): so
[2012.08.10. 5:47:44] barney: oh kk
[2012.08.10. 5:47:55] barney: yeah ima go back to sleep prolly
[2012.08.10. 5:48:12] John (animalcrackr): ill be going to sleep here in a few hours
[2012.08.10. 5:48:16] John (animalcrackr): hopefully they contact me
[2012.08.10. 5:48:29] John (animalcrackr): i'm gonna be selling it to someone new
[2012.08.10. 5:48:42] John (animalcrackr): once i get it back and everything, you can call and get the money refunded by blizz
[2012.08.10. 5:48:44] John (animalcrackr): err
[2012.08.10. 5:48:47] John (animalcrackr): paypal
[2012.08.10. 5:49:33] barney: refunded by blizz lol
[2012.08.10. 5:49:35] barney: well
[2012.08.10. 5:49:40] barney: just send back to me
[2012.08.10. 5:49:42] barney: if that work
[2012.08.10. 5:49:46] John (animalcrackr): Yep
[2012.08.10. 5:49:51] John (animalcrackr): i only said
[2012.08.10. 5:49:54] John (animalcrackr): to call paypal to do it
[2012.08.10. 5:49:55] John (animalcrackr): bcuz
[2012.08.10. 5:50:02] John (animalcrackr): they would remove the intial fee
[2012.08.10. 5:50:03] John (animalcrackr): however if i send
[2012.08.10. 5:50:05] John (animalcrackr): double fee
[2012.08.10. 5:50:23] barney: but it would take ****tons of time tho
[2012.08.10. 8:38:24] barney: k im back
[2012.08.10. 8:39:31] barney: i see now answer from blizz lol
[2012.08.10. 8:39:35] barney: thats how they are..
[2012.08.10. 10:09:54] barney: u there
[2012.08.10. 10:09:57] barney: blizz replied
[2012.08.10. 10:10:06] John (animalcrackr): yeah and i sent in the form
[2012.08.10. 10:10:09] John (animalcrackr): waiting for another reponse
[2012.08.10. 10:10:22] barney: We have received multiple reports about your account.
[2012.08.10. 10:10:27] barney: so someone reported me?
[2012.08.10. 10:10:31] John (animalcrackr): no
[2012.08.10. 10:10:49] John (animalcrackr): i think t hey mean i put in multple reports about the acct being banned today


[2012.08.10. 10:27:05] John (animalcrackr): i'll take of it when i get paid
[2012.08.10. 10:27:08] John (animalcrackr): from the new buyer
[2012.08.10. 10:27:51] barney: okay
[2012.08.10. 10:31:32] barney: lol
[2012.08.10. 10:31:52] barney: and what if you scam him and me too.. like you take the payment from the new buyer and delete me
[2012.08.10. 10:31:59] John (animalcrackr): ...
[2012.08.10. 10:32:18] John (animalcrackr): I spent the money you gave me. so i can't refund you until i get his payment
[2012.08.10. 10:32:24] John (animalcrackr): I have done nothing to make you even assume that
[2012.08.10. 10:32:28] John (animalcrackr): so idk why you are accusing me
[2012.08.10. 10:33:05] barney: im just so confused
[2012.08.10. 10:33:13] barney: this whole thing is confusing
[2012.08.10. 10:33:30] John (animalcrackr): ... the acct got banned bcuz of the sudden email change from a new IP address
[2012.08.10. 10:33:35] John (animalcrackr): i guarantee that's the reaosn
[2012.08.10. 10:33:40] barney: so you are 100%
[2012.08.10. 10:33:45] John (animalcrackr): So you said you wanted out. So i'm selling the acct to someone else
[2012.08.10. 10:33:51] barney: i did and yes its fine
[2012.08.10. 10:33:53] John (animalcrackr): I will pay you back your 437$
[2012.08.10. 10:33:59] John (animalcrackr): and all will be well
[2012.08.10. 10:34:06] barney: k
[2012.08.10. 10:34:18] John (animalcrackr): i'm not a *******, and i will not **** u over
[2012.08.10. 10:34:24] John (animalcrackr): i gave u all of my info, added u to fb
[2012.08.10. 10:34:30] barney: i know bro im not accusing you
[2012.08.10. 10:34:32] John (animalcrackr): gave u nothing but reasons to trust me
[2012.08.10. 10:34:39] barney: true
[2012.08.10. 10:35:18] barney: but what will happen if you sell it to this new buyer and it gets locked again?
[2012.08.10. 10:35:42] barney: i mean this is new for me.. never happened before.. maybe its coz of you acc was compromised a lot in the past?
[2012.08.10. 10:47:21] John (animalcrackr): well anyways, it's bedtime for me. I'll be on in about 8 hours. Hopefully blizz gets this **** finished

[2012.08.11. 19:45:08] John (animalcrackr): k i have someone buying it 2mrw morning
[2012.08.11. 19:45:09] John (animalcrackr): for 600$
[2012.08.11. 19:45:12] John (animalcrackr): so u'll get ur 450$
[2012.08.11. 19:45:16] John (animalcrackr): and we'll be on our way
[2012.08.11. 19:45:21] barney: 100% sure?
[2012.08.11. 19:45:23] John (animalcrackr): it's actually a friend
[2012.08.11. 19:45:24] John (animalcrackr): yeah
[2012.08.11. 19:45:26] barney: okay cool
[2012.08.11. 19:45:49] barney: should i make a dispute?
[2012.08.11. 19:46:08] John (animalcrackr): no i'll just refund
[2012.08.11. 19:46:15] barney: ok
[2012.08.11. 19:46:29] barney: who is buying it if i may ask
[2012.08.11. 19:46:37] John (animalcrackr): a friend i used to arena w/
[2012.08.11. 19:46:38] John (animalcrackr): lol
[2012.08.11. 19:46:44] barney: nicelol --------------------> That's actually FancyMMO


And that was the last convo...

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it seemed too good... but yeah i deserve you rub it in my face... :/

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opened a dispute on paypal but they said they dont cover virtual goods so what should i say any help is appreciated
 
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/474643-scammed-out-500k-catastrophic.html
it seemed too good... but yeah i deserve you rub it in my face... :/

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opened a dispute on paypal but they said they dont cover virtual goods so what should i say any help is appreciated

If your credit card is linked to your PayPal, you can call the credit card company directly.
 
Banned - http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/580179-Scam-Dispute-kookajamo95/page2
You kind of ****ed yourself by telling paypal you bought virtual goods. If you had just escalated the dispute to a claim and said you never received the item you paid for you would have been refunded. Paypal is very, very buyer sided and since they offer 0 protection for virtual trades any buyer can just take their money back whenever they want to if they bought virtual goods (In my experiences at least). That's why a lot of people only accept wepay, money pack and Western Union now.
 
Banned - http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/580179-Scam-Dispute-kookajamo95/page2
I've only been in your situation once but all I did was escalate it to a claim and in the area where you can type a message I said something along the lines of "I purchased an item and it was never delivered. The seller never came through and refuses contact." And they refunded me after a few days because the seller could not provide any proof the item was shipped (And they don't cover virtual goods, so by telling them he sold me a virtual account I'd get the money back anyway).

Again though, I've only been in your situation once so someone with more experience might be able to help you better, but that worked for me.
 
what if he shows paypal the conversation that you actually purchased a virtual good instead of an item? i could try it as i got nothing to lose but the problem is i already said it was a virtual good:/
 
Please do not post if you are not involved. If you want to give 19945 advise on how to recover his money, PM him.

View Profile: animalcrackr has not logged into this site for 10 months, so this was 100% on Skype?

19945 buys wow account from animalcrackr for $450
wow account is banned next day
animalcrackr states FancyMMO wants to buy it for $600 and he'll refund 19945 once he gets the payment
FancyMMO posts account for sale next day (http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...d-warlock-3x-glad-legendary-staff-decked.html)
refund never given to 19945

FancyMMO has been notified.

FancyMMO, did you pay animalcrackr for the account?
 
So apparently John (after lots of spams lol) got me back and this is what he said:

[18:40:22] John (animalcrackr): im gonna ignore all the stupid **** u said. i'll have the money for u 2mrw by noon EST

Yes animalcrackr is his skype. He was banned from maskedcrusader but since he didnt even post or anything i had no idea why did he got a ban..
 
Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads
So, John brought this warlock to me a few days ago 8/11 I believe, wanting to sell it, turns out me and him go way back I used to arena with him alot / we were good friends haven't talk to him in years though... I bought the account, listed it for sale, than had KHAccounts contact me saying he had bought it and it was recalled...than I had 19945 aiming me saying the same thing...I didn't know any of this before I bought the account (yes I paid for it).

From what I understand John sold KHaccounts this warlock and another account ($1,500+) and KH is in the process or already has gotten his money back for both..

John says he is going to refund 19945, but that is between them, I don't really want to deal with the account at this point
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
Yea fancy he asked me bout this account and asked me to middleman it i denied it but he still decided to buy it.
 
I'm assuming this sale with KHAccounts is why he's banned on MC.

19945 buys wow account from animalcrackr for $450
wow account is banned next day
animalcrackr states FancyMMO wants to buy it for $600 and he'll refund 19945 once he gets the payment
FancyMMO posts account for sale next day - paid (Rank 1 Vicious Glad Warlock! 3x Glad! Legendary Staff! Decked!!!)
refund never given to 19945
somewhere during this, animalcrackr sells the same account to KHAaccounts


FancyMMO, I'm assuming you still have the account or sold it already, correct?
If you didn't sell it already I would give it back to animalcrackr and try to get a refund. If it gets recalled from your buyer, you'll be responsible.

KHAccounts, FancyMMO said you are in the process of disputing the payment or already did. Is that true? Did you get your money back? When was this account sold to you? When was it recalled?

basically it seems like animalcrackr sold the same account to 3 people, but I need to hear from KHA before making a final decision.
 
Hey Mike.

The account was sold to me at or around the beginning of June - way before any of this transpired (the Warlock that is in dispute in this thread). I had the account for sale for a matter of a week before it was sold to my client. Two weeks after my client had it, the account was mysteriously locked. I sent in John's ID as he told me that his ID would work in sending with account retrieval forms even though the name on the account was/is Ashley Gibson. So, I sent in the ID and Blizzard rejected it as it was not the name on the account. I let John know that and he strung me along for almost a month before I just filed a chargeback with my bank. The buyer of the account was really pissed off and so he was refunded with a new account within a week of the original recall.

So, as of right now, my bank has already decided in my favor and I am all good.

Please let me know if you have any further questions/concerns.

- Shane aka KHA
 
Talked to John i still didnt receive any refund. That is what he said:


[19:30:59] barney: this account has been sold to kh accounts before
[19:31:03] barney: then got recalled
[19:31:20] barney: then u sold it to me and then fancymmo
[19:31:59] barney: The account was sold to me at or around the beginning of June - way before any of this transpired (the Warlock that is in dispute in this thread). I had the account for sale for a matter of a week before it was sold to my client. Two weeks after my client had it, the account was mysteriously locked. I sent in John's ID as he told me that his ID would work in sending with account retrieval forms even though the name on the account was/is Ashley Gibson.
[19:40:33] barney: im calling blizzard for sure you wont sell that account and scam more ppl with it anymore
[19:49:02] barney: you gotta be a really low mother****er to try to **** other honest ppl over
[19:49:06] barney: and still fail
[19:49:18] barney: who does that lol
[19:49:53] barney: and still be like yeah bro ill refund you
[19:50:00] barney: you clearly just want to buy some time
[19:53:27] barney: but im not letting you walk away just like that, i have your id, gonna call the police
[19:56:29] barney: gonna wait 24 hours
[20:00:10] barney: but that only shows what kind of person you are
[20:03:41] John (animalcrackr): 1) i was going to refund u, it was part of a deal i made w/ Fancymmo
[20:03:52] John (animalcrackr): 2) What do you think the cops are going to do? Why don't you go check out paypals EULA
[20:04:04] John (animalcrackr): Read the fineprint saying THEY DO NOT SUPPORT BUYING INTANGIBLE ITEMS
[20:04:29] John (animalcrackr): The police can't do ****... You bought my account, I gave it to you. You recalled the money, which seemed like u were scamming me
[20:04:43] John (animalcrackr): so I hit up paypal, they said "**** the seller, we don't protect this"
[20:04:49] John (animalcrackr): but keep going
[20:04:56] John (animalcrackr): tell me how ur gonna call the cops, when i am trying to work sh it out for u
[20:05:00] John (animalcrackr): ur making it really easy on urself
[20:05:00] John (animalcrackr): jk
[20:05:15] barney: you basically saying you are a scammer
[20:05:30] barney: you told me that you are going to refund me noon
[20:05:33] barney: what time is it?
[20:05:35] barney: and
[20:05:39] John (animalcrackr): i'm west coast rn
[20:05:41] John (animalcrackr): so again
[20:05:44] John (animalcrackr): who looks like an idiot
[20:05:52] barney: if you sold it to fancymmo why dont you have the money?
[20:06:55] barney: how do i know you are trying to get my money?
[20:06:58] barney: this warlock
[20:07:04] barney: has been sold multiple times
[20:07:09] barney: you lied to me saying you got hacked
[20:07:30] barney: no you didnt you sold it and recalled after couple weeks
[20:09:00] barney: why dont you have an answer for that?
[20:09:08] barney: and why do you keep ignoring me?
[20:09:17] John (animalcrackr): i'm busy, and i don't need to answer ****
[20:09:18] John (animalcrackr): u'll get ur money
[20:09:24] John (animalcrackr): unless u ****ing talk **** 1 more time
[20:11:11] barney: im sure i wont get my money back that is the same answer you are telling me over and over again just so i believe you and wont do anything
[20:11:23] John (animalcrackr): dude, do w/e u want
[20:11:52] barney: you have the money right now but not going to refund me because you are happu that finally here is a guy who actually wont recall the money
[20:12:08] barney: coz kh accounts managed to recall it after you ****ed him over
[20:12:46] barney: well you can be sure ill do everything i can
[20:18:21] barney: if you were REALLY honest and legit you could just tell me that sorry i wont have your money until idk monday since im working and barely home
[20:18:48] John (animalcrackr): i mean, the reason i dont have ur money is because a carry i did recalled their money and paypal is being niggers about it
[20:18:53] John (animalcrackr): so my account is negative until that's resolved
[20:20:05] barney: why is it so hard to tell me that then? i mean i wouldn't feel like someone who has been scammed know not to report the account and get it banned and other ****
[20:20:29] barney: but you got 450 and fancymmos 600
[20:21:03] barney: for how much did you sell carries for if you dont mind my question
[20:21:23] barney: more than 1050? thats a lot
[20:21:34] John (animalcrackr): i got scammed for a 700 glad + hero of the alliance carry
[20:21:53] John (animalcrackr): and i xfered the other money to my bank acct, so i'm just waiting for paypal to resolve their ****
[20:22:30] barney: dont you have a spare 450 on your bank account? or at least 200 or something so i dont at least feel scammed while i wait?
[20:22:54] barney: i understand your situation its just that you were telling me thins which didnt happen of course i feel like i got scammed
[20:24:16] John (animalcrackr): i do have money in my bank acct
[20:24:16] John (animalcrackr): but
[20:24:19] John (animalcrackr): my paypal is negative atm
[20:24:20] John (animalcrackr): so
[20:24:32] John (animalcrackr): i'd have to transfer 900$ just to get it out of the negative + pay u back
[20:24:55] barney: can you make a new paypal and pay with that?
[20:26:25] John (animalcrackr): no bcuz i only have 1 bank acct
[20:26:32] John (animalcrackr): and i can't remove my bank information from a negative acct
[20:26:35] John (animalcrackr): so i have to just wait
[20:26:49] barney: i see
[20:27:40] barney: but what answer do you have that khaccount got scammed with the same lock? also can you just send me a ss of your paypal indicating that its negative?


To that i got no question. Seems like im ****ed
 
animalcrackr sells account to KHAccounts (june)
KHAccounts sells account to userX
account ID locked. ID given to KHA is rejected
KHA compensates userX, disputes payment against animalcrackr


19945 buys wow account from animalcrackr for $450
wow account is banned next day
animalcrackr states FancyMMO wants to buy it for $600 and he'll refund 19945 once he gets the payment
FancyMMO posts account for sale next day - paid (Rank 1 Vicious Glad Warlock! 3x Glad! Legendary Staff! Decked!!!)
refund never given to 19945

From the info posted, I'd doubt he's going to refund you.

There is someone registered here with animalcrackr and email John, so I've banned that account, even though it hasn't been used in years.

But since this is not a active forum member from here, Im moving this to Scam Busters. Good luck.
 
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