Genshin Account bought from Shinsuke got recalled

glitch.ph · Mar 6, 2022

Shinsuke said:
Your proof is not enough, someone can fake it by play victims.
You showed me you link your FB or Twitter and there's no account.
everyone can do that...
by login in with dummy account and screenshots the page...
You should show us screenshots of all bind linked before the account got hacked.

Those are not dummy accounts those are my real fb and twitter accounts. And I was not able to screenshot the account page before because i did not know you would scam me and that I would need that in the future as proof. Proof not enough? That is for the admins to decide. But whatever they decide on whether on you recalling the account from the real owner, or you issuing a refund you can just send it to them and not me. Is that proof enough to you that I am not here for the money but by the principle of a good trade

Shinsuke · Mar 6, 2022

glitch.ph said:
Those are not dummy accounts those are my real fb and twitter accounts. And I was not able to screenshot the account page before because i did not know you would scam me and that I would need that in the future as proof. Proof not enough? That is for the admins to decide. But whatever they decide on whether on you recalling the account from the real owner, or you issuing a refund you can just send it to them and not me. Is that proof enough to you that I am not here for the money but by the principle of a good trade

everyone who bought a genshin account must have that screenshot for anticipate.

Shinsuke · Mar 6, 2022

well I don't have time to continue this, I have work in real life
so I say again, what I can do is recovery the account.
I'll update when I got response from dev.

glitch.ph · Mar 6, 2022

Shinsuke said:
everyone who bought a genshin account must have that screenshot for anticipate.

It's called trust after the seller says he is THE FIRST OWNER of the account. No one really thinks they will be scammed until they get scammed. So lesson learned

EpicNPC CM · Mar 8, 2022

@Shinsuke in your thread your listed as original owner, that falls under false advertisement and a 100% refund must be issued.

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

EpicNPC CM said:
@Shinsuke in your thread your listed as original owner, that falls under false advertisement and a 100% refund must be issued.

But I haven't got my account, how can I sent him a refund?
I doubt he lied and make a fake issue, let me recovery my account first then go with the refund.
It's overy a year, that kinda suspicious if the account got recalled after I sold it to him

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

I also doubt the account got hacked by malware, because he play on PC

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinHacked/comments/pkvdom/how_the_account_stealing_works/

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

I did not lie and i am not making a fake issue. The account was recalled by you or the original owner. You can even send the money directly to the admins to prove that I am not after the money but in the fairness of an honest trade

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

glitch.ph said:
I did not lie and i am not making a fake issue. The account was recalled by you or the original owner. You can even send the money directly to the admins to prove that I am not after the money but in the fairness of an honest trade

I'm not gonna sent it, before I got my account.
there's may some change on my account so, I want to see it.
if there's a change that make me feel lost, I will not refund 100% from it's price

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

Do you ever set birthday on my account?

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
I'm not gonna sent it, before I got my account.
there's may some change on my account so, I want to see it.
if there's a change that make me feel lost, I will not refund 100% from it's price

Up until the moment you or the original owner took back the account, I was diligently farming dailies, weeklies, events, artifacts, materials. Did not pull on anything because I was saving it for the 2.6 banner. How can it lose its value?

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

glitch.ph said:
Up until the moment you or the original owner took back the account, I was diligently farming dailies, weeklies, events, artifacts, materials. Did not pull on anything because I was saving it for the 2.6 banner. How can it lose its value?

How about birthday, do you ever set it?
because my account have unset birthday.
that was a high value for me.
if you set it then don't hope for 100% refund.

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
Do you ever set birthday on my account?

I did because I thought you sold me your account and not someone else's. Does not change the fact that I paid you 250 dollars for it, more if you add paypal and mm fees. And after investing time playing it for 26 days getting it recalled by you or its original owner has caused me a great deal of anxiety that no amount of money is worth that. I just want this dispute with you over and done. So pay the 250 to the admins and let us get this thing over with

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

glitch.ph said:
I did because I thought you sold me your account and not someone else's. Does not change the fact that I paid you 250 dollars for it, more if you add paypal and mm fees. And after investing time playing it for 26 days getting it recalled by you or its original owner has caused me a great deal of anxiety that no amount of money is worth that. I just want this dispute with you over and done. So pay the 250 to the admins and let us get this thing over with

So you wanted 100% refund after you set the birthday ?
I think Im gonna refuse it.
I'll refund your money 50% from it's price.
how can you leave my account with your birthday.

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

I sell 250 because my account has unset birthday
do you know how rare it is ?

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
I sell 250 because my account has unset birthday
do you know how rare it is ?

What do you get on your birthday? A duplicate cake and a fragile resin that is not valued at 125 Dollars. If it was an unset username now that is a different case.
Your account either truly yours or stolen is valued at 250 because of the number of 5 star characters and weapons you had. Same value that was taken from me when it was recalled.
Stop giving excuses on not having to pay back the full amount after lying on this forum, in our chat and trying to weasel your way out of a dispute.
As I have said this has stressed me long enough and so I leave it up to the judgement of the admins how much you have to pay them and have this argument settled

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

glitch.ph said:
What do you get on your birthday? A duplicate cake and a fragile resin that is not valued at 125 Dollars. If it was an unset username now that is a different case.
Your account either truly yours or stolen is valued at 250 because of the number of 5 star characters and weapons you had. Same value that was taken from me when it was recalled.
Stop giving excuses on not having to pay back the full amount after lying on this forum, in our chat and trying to weasel your way out of a dispute.
As I have said this has stressed me long enough and so I leave it up to the judgement of the admins how much you have to pay them and have this argument settled

Shame on you, you don't even know how important the birthday.
You must know that birthday can't be changed.
Your efforts on my account can't surpass that value.
I have right to give an equal refunds.
If you want to change your mind you can take the account after I recovery my account.

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
Shame on you, you don't even know how important the birthday.
You must know that birthday can't be changed.
Your efforts on my account can't surpass that value.
I have right to give an equal refunds.
If you want to change your mind you can take the account after I recovery my account.

I don't want your stolen account lol.
I wouldn't have bought it off of you if you did not state you were the owner.
Shame on me? For what? Believing your lies? Probably.
But it should be you who should be ashamed for selling stolen goods, or selling something then taking it back after a month and feigning ignorance about it then nickel and diming your way out of a refund
Rights? What about my right to an honest trade? You LIED.
Pay the admins what they deem is the amount owed and then we can move on with our lives.

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

glitch.ph said:
I don't want your stolen account lol.
I wouldn't have bought it off of you if you did not state you were the owner.
Shame on me? For what? Believing your lies? Probably.
But it should be you who should be ashamed for selling stolen goods, or selling something then taking it back after a month and feigning ignorance about it then nickel and diming your way out of a refund
Rights? What about my right to an honest trade? You LIED.
Pay the admins what they deem is the amount owed and then we can move on with our lives.

Listen me, I don't sell stolen account, why would I sell it here?
I'll pay to the admin after I check my account.
just calm, it takes time.
you said you already set the birthday, so I want to check more of it.
If you know how trade works, you should be know how if the stuff are broken and it can't be returned with money.
also I don't put a note about money refunds on my post, don't you think I still have responsibility to you?

Velveteen · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
Listen me, I don't sell stolen account, why would I sell it here?
I'll pay to the admin after I check my account.
just calm, it takes time.
you said you already set the birthday, so I want to check more of it.
If you know how trade works, you should be know how if the stuff are broken and it can't be returned with money.
also I don't put a note about money refunds on my post, don't you think I still have responsibility to you?

you have no rights talking about "damaged products" when you already damaged the deal by making false claims.

this is only your fault when you lied with beein "original owner".

Shinsuke · Mar 8, 2022

the refund will be 50% so take it or leave it

glitch.ph · Mar 8, 2022

Shinsuke said:
Listen me, I don't sell stolen account, why would I sell it here?
I'll pay to the admin after I check my account.
just calm, it takes time.
you said you already set the birthday, so I want to check more of it.
If you know how trade works, you should be know how if the stuff are broken and it can't be returned with money.
also I don't put a note about money refunds on my post, don't you think I still have responsibility to you?

The "goods" you sold are not physical it's digital how can it be broken?
The value of the item is still the same because that is what I paid for. The same value that was taken from me when the account was recalled by you or by the original owner.
I am calm.
Whether you put refundable or not on your post is not the issue.
The issue is you are trading in this site epicnpc which has rules and tried to scam your way into 250 bucks by selling an account that is not yours to sell with.
Then, when it was recalled by the real owner you give excuses on how it was impossible because you've been playing for a year and have no problems.
But there was a problem it was recalled and I provided proof and the admin believes you are in the wrong and must provide a refund.
Now you give us new excuses because I have set a birthday on it which does not diminish the value of the said account whether you will be reselling it or not because you have already scummed me off of 250 dollars for it.
As I have said the amount you have to pay back to the admins as a donation, I leave it up to the admins to decide.

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

glitch.ph said:
The "goods" you sold are not physical it's digital how can it be broken?
The value of the item is still the same because that is what I paid for. The same value that was taken from me when the account was recalled by you or by the original owner.
I am calm.
Whether you put refundable or not on your post is not the issue.
The issue is you are trading in this site epicnpc which has rules and tried to scam your way into 250 bucks by selling an account that is not yours to sell with.
Then, when it was recalled by the real owner you give excuses on how it was impossible because you've been playing for a year and have no problems.
But there was a problem it was recalled and I provided proof and the admin believes you are in the wrong and must provide a refund.
Now you give us new excuses because I have set a birthday on it which does not diminish the value of the said account whether you will be reselling it or not because you have already scummed me off of 250 dollars for it.
As I have said the amount you have to pay back to the admins as a donation, I leave it up to the admins to decide.

It's ok I'll sent $125 later as you set your birthday on the account.
the money will arrive when I receive my account back.
Probably you're afraid I'm recall the account.

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

I already fill the recovery form yesterday, so need to wait for their response.

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

unfortunately I won't get loss from this,
so it's better to reduce the amount.
also you said my account worth 250?
do you forget I put price 300 on it.
and you trying to negotiate it lol

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

I sell it for 300 then you offer under it's price

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

Shinsuke said:
It's ok I'll sent $125 later as you set your birthday on the account.
the money will arrive when I receive my account back.
Probably you're afraid I'm recall the account.

Let the admins decide the amount to be compensated

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

Shinsuke said:
I sell it for 300 then you offer under it's price

Was I asking for 300 dollars back? Read the forum again. All I was asking was for the payment you have received which is 250 dollars.
I did ask if I can get a discount that is called haggling and it is perfectly legal in a marketplace if the seller agrees. Which you did
What is illegal is posting you are the owner when you are not that is fraud

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

And I did share our chats to this forum in 001.png and 002.png and from our chats you said and I quote "So if it 250 I'll consider"
If it is 250 dollars you would consider, I did not force you to agree. You gave the price yourself.
And now you're bringing it up as an issue to avoid paying the whole amount you've received.

Which is Two Hundred and Fifty US Dollars.

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

glitch.ph said:
And I did share our chats to this forum in 001.png and 002.png and from our chats you said and I quote "So if it 250 I'll consider"
If it is 250 dollars you would consider, I did not force you to agree. You gave the price yourself.
And now you're bringing it up as an issue to avoid paying the whole amount you received.

I just remind you who judging my account worth of your money

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

Shinsuke said:
I just remind you who judging my account worth of your money

And I am also here to remind you that stolen genshin accounts are not worth anything because they can be recalled by the original owner anytime mihoyo validates them.
Hence. why we are here in this dispute section of the site. Because you sold an account not originally yours but claimed it was for 250 dollars and I was gullible enough to believe it and it got recalled.

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

glitch.ph said:
And I am also here to remind you that stolen genshin accounts are not worth anything because they can be recalled by the original owner anytime mihoyo validates them.
Hence. why we are here in this dispute section of the site. Because you sold an account not originally yours but claimed it was for 250 dollars and I was gullible enough to believe it and it got recalled.

I don't offer my account to you, also why would I became the person who trying to foolish you.
you're the one.

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

Shinsuke said:
I don't offer my account to you, also why would I became the person who trying to foolish you.
you're the one.

But we did trade, we even had a middleman remember?
And you did fool me, selling me an account that you claimed that was yours when it was not.
And now the real owner took it back via mihoyo recall.
Not only did you fool me but you are now trying to fool everyone here that you are in the right by telling them that I haggled and got a discount so I am not entitled to a refund?
When I have already provided those chats on the first page of this dispute and all I was asking was the amount I paid you which is 250 dollars. Not the 300 dollar price that you posted but the amount I PAID to your paypal account which is again 250 USD.
We can go on and on in circles especially when you don't want to see reason.
Only the admins can resolve our dispute

Angel · Mar 9, 2022

Stop arguing, i am not going to spend my entire day reading this. @Shinsuke in original thread you posted that you are original owner which later you admit is not true. This is false advertising so a full refund must be issued. You have another option to contact support and ask them to retrieve the account back

glitch.ph · Mar 9, 2022

Angel said:
Stop arguing, i am not going to spend my entire day reading this. @Shinsuke in original thread you posted that you are original owner which later you admit is not true. This is false advertising so a full refund must be issued. You have another option to contact support and ask them to retrieve the account back

I am sorry the thread got so long, I shall refrain from arguing with him from now on. But in regards to him recalling the account, I do not want his account back because it might get recalled again by the owner. I was hoping to get refunded and I planned on donating it to the site if it is possible

Shinsuke · Mar 9, 2022

Angel said:
Stop arguing, i am not going to spend my entire day reading this. @Shinsuke in original thread you posted that you are original owner which later you admit is not true. This is false advertising so a full refund must be issued. You have another option to contact support and ask them to retrieve the account back

I still waiting their response for my recovery results

Angel · Mar 16, 2022

Any update?

glitch.ph · Mar 17, 2022

no word from him since

Angel · Mar 19, 2022

@Shinsuke ban in 24 hrs

Angel · Mar 21, 2022

Banned

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