Genshin Account bought from Shinsuke got recalled

[glitch.ph]

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Information
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Purchase Date: February 4, 2022
Date the problem began: March 2, 2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Epicnpc and discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Shinsuke from epicnpc / Shinsuke#9156
Your Instant Messenger ID: glitch.ph here at epicnpc / Gaelahad#500

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/ar-...as-hu-tao-c1-homa-birthday-unset-300.2154921/
Approximate value of property: $250 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? 53594

What is the dispute about?
The Genshin Impact account that I bought from Shinsuke on February 4, 2022 was recalled by either Shinsuke himself or the real owner through mihoyo by possibly claiming that the account was hacked. It was because I did not get any email notification of a change, and all the other accounts that I linked like facebook, twitter and mobile was removed from the account. Only mihoyo can possibly do that.
I tried contacting him directly and ask for a refund and he refused that is why I am seeking help here for mediation
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Proof
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.


Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) Yes
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) He did not give me any receipts or proof
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 26 Days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it. Did not try to contact mihoyo cs without proof of purchases
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[EpicNPC CM]

@Shinsuke

 

[Angel]

@Shinsuke ban in 24 hrs

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Sorry I busy yesterday

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Idk why this guy dispute me, I said I'll help him to recovery it if my account really got taken back

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

well I'll make this clear, I'm not real original owner
coz I bought a starter venti account and I forgot who selling it.
it's been a year ago.
I'm pretty sure my account is 100% safe coz I playing it over a year and has made many purchase.
when I found this guy saying the account got recalled, I really confused.
he also don't have proof about he linked to FB or etc.
and judge it as recalled

 

[glitch.ph]

You said you were the original owner, you posted you were the owner so you lied and admit it here. I just want my money back because I don't want to invest more time to the account if it'll be recalled again after a month or two. You know in your heart you did me wrong by lying. I am disputing you here because you are being unreasonable.

 

[glitch.ph]

Proof? here you go FB and Twitter without an account. Why? It's because you or the owner recalled the account that's why

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

You said you were the original owner, you posted you were the owner so you lied and admit it here. I just want my money back because I don't want to invest more time to the account if it'll be recalled again after a month or two. You know in your heart you did me wrong by lying. I am disputing you here because you are being unreasonable.

Nah I'm not gonna refund it, if you can do it by self you can try to chargeback.
I just will help you to recovery it.
I never had an issue before, this was my first time lol.

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Proof? here you go FB and Twitter without an account. Why? It's because you or the owner recalled the account that's why

why not trying to log in?

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

also please record it

 

[glitch.ph]

Chargeback on paypal friends and family? You know they don't do chargeback for that. You know all the ways to scam people well.
How can I log in when your genshin account was recalled and all my accounts linked to it was unlinked by mihoyo?

 

[glitch.ph]

You never had issue before? Well you have an issue now. Maybe you were honest a year ago but now you are starting to scam people

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Don't say u use other people money, I see on your mail screenshots there's limitations on your PayPal.
why you not able to chargeback it ? are you new user or what.
everyone can do chargeback by issuing it to their bank.
I'm just saying, not telling you how to scam.

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

How can I log in when your genshin account was recalled and all my accounts linked to it was unlinked by mihoyo?

You said your FB and. Twitter without an account, so how you can see that ?

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

You never had issue before? Well you have an issue now. Maybe you were honest a year ago but now you are starting to scam people

How if i got trolled by random user like you.
I had no balls to scam people, if I actually want to scam you, I won't waste my time to wait over a month to recall my account back.

 

[glitch.ph]

PayPal does not offer refunds for payments sent using the Friends and Family functionality. Bank chargeback will only flag my account and will lock my wallet not worth it for 250 bucks. But that is besides the point of you LYING that you were the owner of the account just to sell it and refusing to issue a refund after that account was either recalled by the owner or by you to sell again to this site or any other site that you deem fit.

I called you out in this dispute to let others know of your business ethics which is s#!t. And hopefully you won't get to scam another person again.

 

[glitch.ph]

You said your FB and. Twitter without an account, so how you can see that ?

Encircled it for you, No game account

 

[glitch.ph]

How if i got trolled by random user like you.
I had no balls to scam people, if I actually want to scam you, I won't waste my time to wait over a month to recall my account back.

But you did wait because recalling accounts from mihoyo takes time. I guess you were hoping that I was not playing genshin anymore to be able to get paid and get the account back without any repercussions. No balls? But clearly you got a lot of balls LYING about being the first owner of the account and admitting it here after you got called out.

 

[glitch.ph]

Don't say u use other people money, I see on your mail screenshots there's limitations on your PayPal.

This was from the spam folder, you know where the email from scammers like you automatically goes to

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Is it wrong to claim I'm the owner ?
lemme explain to you, that account I bought since this game got released
and it's from venti banners.
I never got any problem when playing... like recalled or something over a year!

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

I already uninstall this game when I sold it to you, so for what I scam you lol

 

[glitch.ph]

Is it wrong to claim I'm the owner ?
lemme explain to you, that account I bought since this game got released
and it's from venti banners.
I never got any problem when playing... like recalled or something over a year!

That is what you claim, doesn't make it true because how would we know that? you said you were the FIRST OWNER meaning you did not buy this off from someone but now you said you did. I would never have bought this off of you if you did not state that you were the first owner

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

do you want proof about I selling a genshin account ?
I have been sold many accounts, and none of them asking about the account got recalled or hacked.

 

[glitch.ph]

I already uninstall this game when I sold it to you, so for what I scam you lol

To resell? How would I know what you would do with it

 

[glitch.ph]

do you want proof about I selling a genshin account ?
I have been sold many accounts, and none of them asking about the account got recalled or hacked.

What will that prove? The one account you sold me got recalled and that is what matters to me not what you did or did not do to your other genshin accounts you are selling. You said it was your personal account, you got no time to play that is why you are selling turns out it was all lies. You are a reseller probably selling stolen accounts to boot

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

To resell? How would I know what you would do with it

I may resell an account but that's not from recalled account.
I buy it with my own money

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

and it's not from random people, I buy it from trusted people

 

[glitch.ph]

I may resell an account but that's not from recalled account.
I buy it with my own

The account you sold to me got recalled. Ask the one who sold it to you then

 

[glitch.ph]

and it's not from random people, I buy it from trusted people

not anymore, one of them recalled the account you sold me

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Whatever, I tired seeing your statement.
What I can do is only recovery the account, I'll say again
I'm not gonna refund your money!
because If I do that I'll got nothing and only got loss due your fake issue (probably)

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

I'll inform you about the updates, it seems take so long to recovery it.
they haven't reply my email since yesterday

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

If you want to change your mind just admit it you just want to troll, a person who failed to get his money back
and trying to beggars

 

[glitch.ph]

You are not going to refund my money after you lied about being the owner and the sole reason that I purchased it. Why would I want your account again if it would be recalled again by the real owner after a month? No I hope you get banned for being a liar and a cheat.

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

If it got recalled again, you can dispute again.
that's simple right?

 

[glitch.ph]

If you want to change your mind just admit it you just want to troll, a person who failed to get his money back
and trying to beggars

No I was going to donate the money to epicnpc after you refund it, if there was a beggar here it is probably you but to call you a beggar is an insult to beggars because you are a liar and a cheat.

 

[glitch.ph]

If it got recalled again, you can dispute again.
that's simple right?

That is a hassle I would rather do without.

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

who's gonna trust a people without reputation in this website

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

You're a person without attitude indeed

 

[glitch.ph]

Only traded here 4 times I think, got scammed once by you. So yeah I don't have feedbacks but does not mean I am the one lying

 

[glitch.ph]

Whether it's the account or the money I would like to donate it here on this site to prevent more scammers like you from taking root here. It poisons the site's good name

 

[glitch.ph]

So yeah Shinsuke recall the account and sell it give the amount to the epicnpc admins. Or just admit you already got the account back and give the money to the admins. There how is that for a beggar?

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

You don't want to solve your problem, you just wanted the money.
that's how beggars work.
I'm here to help you, not for lying to free from your dispute.
you seems reject my idea, so what's your point for dispute me ?
to ban me ? not for the account?

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

I don't cooperate with the admin, just stop your shitty thinks.

 

[glitch.ph]

What's the use of getting the account back when it can be recalled again by the real owner? I will not invest more time to an account where it can be taken back again and again that's idiotic. I want a refund and donate it. Or you get banned for repeatedly lying just to close a purchase

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

Only traded here 4 times I think, got scammed once by you. So yeah I don't have feedbacks but does not mean I am the one lying

It's funny, traded without giving a feedback
everyone can claim their self for having trade successfully

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

What's the use of getting the account back when it can be recalled again by the real owner? I will not invest more time to an account where it can be taken back again and again that's idiotic. I want a refund and donate it. Or you get banned for repeatedly lying just to close a purchase

How if you afraid I recall the account, which the account is actually fine in your hand.

 

[glitch.ph]

I will not lie for 250 bucks. I am even willing to donate the money you owe me to this site. You are not the real owner of the account you sold me, I even asked you that before the trade, the account got recalled you asked that I show you my emails, inbox, spam, trash. You saw nothing, no notification whatsoever. I said the accounts I linked got unlinked by mihoyo you ask for proof i showed it. If the account was fine I am not going to dispute it here and be willing to donate the money to this site. But since the account got recalled and you are faking no knowledge about it then I was forced to call you out. And to prove I am not after the money I am going to donate it. Is it clear enough for you?

 

[Shinsuke]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-bought-from-shinsuke-got-recalled.2179375/page-4

I will not lie for 250 bucks. I am even willing to donate the money you owe me to this site. You are not the real owner of the account you sold me, I even asked you that before the trade, the account got recalled you asked that I show you my emails, inbox, spam, trash. You saw nothing, no notification whatsoever. I said the accounts I linked got unlinked by mihoyo you ask for proof i showed it. If the account was fine I am not going to dispute it here and be willing to donate the money to this site. But since the account got recalled and you are faking no knowledge about it then I was forced to call you out. And to prove I am not after the money I am going to donate it. Is it clear enough for you?

Your proof is not enough, someone can fake it by play victims.
You showed me you link your FB or Twitter and there's no account.
everyone can do that...
by login in with dummy account and screenshots the page...
You should show us screenshots of all bind linked before the account got hacked.

 

[glitch.ph]

It's funny, traded without giving a feedback
everyone can claim their self for having trade successfully

I have MM codes and chats if the admins here wants proof. I also did not force the buyers to a Paypal FnF why? Because i want them to have buyer's protection