False Feedback

[Arachnyte]

Hello Epicnpc a few days ago i sold Alienhated 20 Billion isk in the form of plex's the guy requested that i traded him the plex's by jettison cans in space and that it was done over 3 turns i agreed to he terms first trade went smooth second trade he got killed on the jita station third time we made a scam contract to give him the last plexes. I got my payment and that was it. Then the a few days later we both got banned now he is putting me to blame for this. I dont see how any of this can be my fault i gave him what he bought i recieved my payment as i see it the transaction went smooth but we got caught afterwards why who knows? Maybe because hes done multiable transactions and CCP has finally caught him.

I am innocent of this claim and i want to get that feedback removed i honored my end and he honored his i dont see why i am to blame that we get banned.


http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/731221-WTS-EVE-ISK-9-per-billion-Loads-in-Stock-Verified-Paypal-only-!

 

[EpicNPC]

recieved my payment as i see it the transaction went smooth but we got caught afterwards

when you say 'we' do you mean your account get banned also?

1/3 he received via space drop
1/3 he lost because he was killed at jita
1/3 he received via contract

Is this correct?

Alienhated has been notified. Alienhated please explain why you think the ban is Eragonlxl fault

 

[Alienhated]

I only got banned on the account where I traded with him.
I did get banned in previous trades (one year ago +/-), and the clients left negative feedback. I made a feedback dispute but what was said was that the clients had the right to do so (despite the fact that I said that there were no returns), so it must apply equal now.
That being said, I'm willing to remove the feedback if at least some of my money is returned to me.

 

[Arachnyte]

I only got banned on the account where I traded with him.
I did get banned in previous trades (one year ago +/-), and the clients left negative feedback. I made a feedback dispute but what was said was that the clients had the right to do so (despite the fact that I said that there were no returns), so it must apply equal now.
That being said, I'm willing to remove the feedback if at least some of my money is returned to me.

So because another client gave you bad feedback the rest of us get punished? You recieved your goods i am not paying for your misstakes or the fact we got caught. i honered our agreement i even delivered the goods to you before i got paid but seems like being nice to you only makes you tread one like trash

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when you say 'we' do you mean your account get banned also?

1/3 he received via space drop
1/3 he lost because he was killed at jita
1/3 he received via contract

Is this correct?

Alienhated has been notified. Alienhated please explain why you think the ban is Eragonlxl fault

yes he recieved evething he paid for. and yes all my accounts got banned

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Taking a look at you feedback history seems like your ip is flagged as being RMT'er *Bought $140 of PLEX, removed within hours, GM said was from "verified" RMTer*

 

[Alienhated]

lol.. I use different computers with different IPs... And I only got banned on that account/ip/computer. The negative feedbacks I got are from a situation where I was in your side of the story. My buyers did get their PLEX/ISK too, I complained about the negative feedback as you are doing, and I was said that the buyers had the right to leave the negative feedback. So, logically, I do have the same right. If this is how the system works, it's how it works.

 

[Arachnyte]

Well i dont see why you should have the right to give me nigative feedback since you recieved what you paid for... If i didn deliver the isks to you i can see why i would get the nigative feedback but i did and you even paid after i gave you the goods. Should i hand you nigative feedback because you may or may not be the reason why i just lost 7 accounts? As i see it your being a D*** to a person who's done nothing wrong but to choose you as a buyer.

 

[EpicNPC]

When it comes to currency delivery and bans this is how disputes are handled.

If the ISK was delivered in what is considered an acceptable, safe manner, the seller is not responsible if the ISK or player's account is banned.
If the ISK is not delivered in a safe manner, the seller is responsible for a full refund.
-- This includes delivering the currency from a high-risk account that might have been reported before.

In this case, from what you posted it seems pretty safe doing it in 3 separate deliveries. Alienhated requested the ISK to be delivered in this manner so I will consider the method safe.

Since both of your accounts got banned banned, it's most likely one of your accounts was already flagged or had matching IPs with another banned account.

When both accounts are banned like this, blame usually falls on the seller, as Alienhated mentioned before.

If the buyer is at fault, normally only their account is banned, not always, but most of the time. When a seller is caught, almost always both buyer and seller are banned.

Since both accounts are banned, the blame will fall to the seller. The feedback will remain, however as Alienhated stated he's willing to remove it if you provide compensation.

Closing as resolved. Alienhated PM me if you want the feedback removed at a later time.