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Protagonist

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Greetings! Today I've received a feedback claiming Im a scammer in the thread related to WoW TBC Classic accounts. Thread link: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/protagonists-pretty-account-shop-daily-updated-get-inside.1982602/
I did not trade with that person, I did never scam him and did never sell anything to him and did never buy anything from him.
Theres no certain claim in this feedback as well. That is the one and only negative feedback I've gotten so far.
I want to dispute that feedback and remove it.
Thank you for your help and time!
WIth best regards!
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I did not trade with that person, I did never scam him and did never sell anything to him and did never buy anything from him.

Interesting claim. Let's start.

First of all, this person was a worker of mine. He stole total summary of 4558,06 EUR from me in short period of time. I stopped working with this person after I realized that he is actually stealing my money constantly. I even made a request to EpicNPC Admin for seperate his profile from my own profile months ago since his account was visible as my secondary account on EpicNPC.

Our partnership and working system was very simple.

1) I send money to him for purchase Russian accounts & services.
2) He uses my money to purchase accounts & services.
3) I pay him a share for his services. (%5-10, I even paid up to %50 in some cases because I liked his work)

So let's say I want to purchase a Russian account for 100 EUR.

1) He uses my 100 EUR that he reserved in his bank account for purchase that account.
2) We sell account for 150 EUR and he directly receives that amount to his bank account for my behalf.
3) I give him %5-10 of total summary.

He always received way more than what he should actually receive percentage base. He can't even show 1 single deal that he didn't got paid since early 2020.

FIRST CASE

1) He told me that he found a good account for good price. I've checked that product and realized he is a fraudster. But even if I said that I don't want to purchase dozen of time, he did the payment without getting my confirmation. I've never received that account and I lost around 1200 EUR on there. Most likely that was his first planned fraud. In the end money is gone but there are no account.

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SECOND CASE

He told me that he have one account that fits to my searching requirements. I said, sure purchase it. He did payment to seller for my behalf which was 367 EUR and according to him, he received details from seller. When I tried to login, it said 'Account does not exist.' I immediately went to Protagonist but he said that he is most likely scammed. In the end money is gone but there are no account. As you can see from my reaction, that happened many times before. I was just not realizing that he was stealing money from me with using that way.

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THIRD CASE

He purchased an account for me. It was worth 458 EUR. Long story short, account has been recalled. Luckily, we made him sign a legal Russian contract before purchase his account. Our contact was saying 'If account gets recovered, seller needs to pay 3x of the total summary.'
So we sued that person and that cost me extra another 458 EUR according to Protagonist which is impossible in Russia's terms. So far, I lost 916 EUR till that point. Then he told me that we won the case but I have never received any money from that court case aswell. So most likely he also stole that money. No need to mention of him wasting my 458 EUR for getting back my actual 458 EUR. If that is real, this is literally stupidity. So overall, I should receive 1374 EUR from that but since past 8 months, nothing has arrived.

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FOURTH CASE

He had 4208,39 EUR that was belongs to me under his possession. I told him that send my money to me at 14.10.2020. He told me that his accounts that works perfectly in past year are locked at 16.10.2020 magically. Basically every single penny of that money was belongs to me but I have never received that money since that date.

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FIFTH CASE

Person received +1147 EUR owe from me for repair his car. Moral of that case is, he will repair his car with getting a loan from me and then he will sell his car and pay whole summary to me so he can cover a portion of his total owe. I gave him what he needed, he repaired his car and sold it. Till here, everything is crystal clear and smooth. But then he came to me and said he spent whole money that comes from car's sales. So this is another steal case. I have never seen that money again.

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SIXTH CASE

I normally never share my customer contacts with Protagonist. But one day, I had two deals to finalize and I had another customer that was waiting for an account. I gave his contact to Protagonist and told him to finalize third deal for my behalf. Then I actually caught him that he tried to close that deal by himself. He used my money to purchase that account, delivered to customer and received whole summary by himself without telling anything to me. First time, I caught him trying to backstab me. Second time, again, he tried to keep whole profit for himself but customer tried to fraud him so he had to come and confess to me at second time. He literally used my 2.500 EUR for trying to make 500 EUR profit. If he would get scammed in full, I was going to lose 2500 EUR for no reason. I never gave him permission to do that and I clearly told him to not try to deal with my customers from my back.

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There are more cases that I can add but I think those screenshots proves what I claim is completely true.
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So wait, you claim I owe you money. Then again, as admin said, the story is that long and complicated that its not going to be reviewed and it cant be investigated that closely. Theres so much stuff that you DIDNT mention, so much stuff happened where you blamed ME and asked to do so much stuff for FREE because it was "my responsibility" for the products i've found for you. So comfortable.
I NEVER DID buy any of the products for you on my own behalf. The story with that r14 rogue, where I ASKED you to pay him the 2nd part, is not the one where I decide to pay for it fully by myself. I never did buy something without your last call.
The story with the shammy is even simplier - I've found what you needed, I got all the screens and proofs account was possessed by the person. To try to save YOUR money I had to make a straight deal, but guy happened to be a scammer (what surprised me as well because he did really look mature and adequate), but its even more strange to see you claim that I STOLE YOUR MONEY HERE and it was planned?? Insane.
I told you several times where your money at and whats going. Im pretty sure the amount of money you mentioned just went straight from your head. Theres not even any single prove, except our discord chat, which is long-long outdated, to prove anything. You should really come to Russia, get everything I have on your money and you go fight for your moneyby yourself. I was never hired to do that, and with the approach of yours I will let this court stuff and paper work stay untouched.
You left me with negative feedback in TBC ACCOUNTS SECTION. Did I sell any of the tbc accs to you? Did I buy any of the tbc accs from you? Is there anything that can prove we had something related to tbc account recently and you was scammed in any way?

P.S. it really is strange for me to see how you call people "my customers", like if its some kind of property. People communicate and deal on their own behalf, they dont need anyone else except them to decide whether they want to communicate/have any kind of deal or not. Knowles contaced me by himself, and he did that because he knew that whatever you sold to him was found by me. I would normally do the same thing just not to overpay to someone who does nothing for me to get what I need pretty much. Seeing how other sellers on this site react to you and what were your other cases, its obvious to me that partnership with you would surely end at some point.
 
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I'm sorry, you need a lawyer and a financial forensic investigator to document all sales from Aug 2020 to March 2021 to determine what was sold and how the money should have been split. We do not investigate these types of disputes. Feedback has been removed.

Our partnership and working system was very simple.

1) I send money to him for purchase Russian accounts & services.
2) He uses my money to purchase accounts & services.
3) I pay him a share for his services. (%5-10, I even paid up to %50 in some cases because I liked his work)

So let's say I want to purchase a Russian account for 100 EUR.

1) He uses my 100 EUR that he reserved in his bank account for purchase that account.
2) We sell account for 150 EUR and he directly receives that amount to his bank account for my behalf.
3) I give him %5-10 of total summary.
 
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