False feedback after sale.

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Puznowski

Level 28

Trade Guardian Orders: 8

(75%) (5 reviews)
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Turkey
Member Since
May 20, 2019
if you do not take the necessary precautions when receiving the account, previous account holders can try. I don't know what my fault is here.
Has your account been hacked? no. I delivered it to you safely. 21 days after we received the account, you open feedback. And you give me five stars first.
All right, so I'm going to open a feedback and give you a star?
 
You are selling hacked accounts if someone can take them back?

Account was stealed but I was able to recover that and I added negative feedback after all.

I even sent you message but you ignored it and now you are waking up after one year?
 
you didn't message me I buy and sell accounts not a hacked account. I didn't go on the site and look because I didn't get a notification.
I don't even know the og e-mail address of the account I'm selling.
 
  • After 30 days, the burden of proof falls solely on the member who received the feedback.
    • Example: Joe gets a negative feedback from Roger. Two months later Joe disputes the feedback. Joe must show proof the feedback is false. Roger does not need to prove his feedback is true.
We must see all proof you have.
 
  • After 30 days, the burden of proof falls solely on the member who received the feedback.
    • Example: Joe gets a negative feedback from Roger. Two months later Joe disputes the feedback. Joe must show proof the feedback is false. Roger does not need to prove his feedback is true.
We must see all proof you have.
What evidence should I show you because the account wasn't stolen and it was delivered?
 
You are selling hacked accounts if someone can take them back?

Account was stealed but I was able to recover that and I added negative feedback after all.

I even sent you message but you ignored it and now you are waking up after one year?
He didn't text me anything. He's lying, I can share our chat history. When I sold the account, I told him the og e-mail was missing. The buyer agreed.
 
You buy and sell hundreds of accounts here. And you don't know how to secure your account. And then when someone tries to steal your account, you know nothing but to blame anyone. The account was delivered to you safely. At this point, I can't be responsible.
 
1) I bought account from him
2) He recovered the account with revert that change option with old account email
3) I recovered that account and I setted up 2FA so he was not able to recover that account again
4) I added negative feedback on his profile
5) He woke up after one year and he is asking for feedback removal

Potential clients should know that he is a scammer especially because that Turkish scammer is insisting on BTC payment which is non refundable.

Why I should add negative feedback if everyting would be OK? I really don't see sense in it.

@EpicNPC CM if you'll remove it I'm sure that he will scam someone on this forum.
 
1- The payment was not made with btc.
2- He claims to have recovered the account and says he's set up two factor however, og mail can disable 2 factor protection.
Why I should add negative feedback if everyting would be OK? I really don't see sense in it.
3- it makes it clear that it is an enemy of Turkey. I think that's the problem. (and someone else tried to steal the account, which is none of my business.)

If I stole his account, there's no way you'd have saved him. But can't because I don't have it og mail.
 
Sky, when the account was recalled in Sep 2020, why didn't you open a dispute instead of just giving a negative?

There we no messages from you to Puznowski in PMs reporting any issues whatsoever. Do you have any evidence that you attempted to contact Puz around that time to report the issue? Did you dispute the payment at the time?
 
Sky, when the account was recalled in Sep 2020, why didn't you open a dispute instead of just giving a negative?

There we no messages from you to Puznowski in PMs reporting any issues whatsoever. Do you have any evidence that you attempted to contact Puz around that time to report the issue? Did you dispute the payment at the time?
Do you think it's possible to recover the account when it's recalled via og mail? after all, og mail is to recover the account permanently. Passes 2 factor validation directly. If I tried to steal the account, there's no way he'd be able to recover it. And he didn't write me any messages. There's no point in prolonging this, if you have the necessary evidence, you should show it or remove the feedback. I've given you the necessary evidence.
 
Hello,

When I said that he is insisting on BTC payment I mean his current sale thread.

Regarding account recovery, here is the proof from email that account email was changed to [email protected] at 9 September 2020

Screenshot:

MM transaction link:
https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=tg&group=1547623

You can see there that this gmail was attached to account before and he did not provided it to middleman.

When we recovered account at 20 September account was getting emails in Turkish language which means that someone from Turkey logged in, screenshot:

I was not really tracking this account emails and now I see that he was logging-in from Usak, Turkey at 10 May 2021 so he recovered that account again, screenshot:

I think that he should be banned now.
 
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10 May 2021 from turkey appears to have been entered 8 months after notification feedback. I got the account from a Turkish site. and the account cannot be accessed via og e-mail. If it was, you wouldn't have your account back. I don't think you've taken the necessary security measures. account may have been logged in from previously defined login links. 8 months after we give me negative feedback, someone else enters the account?
 
Someone's been breaking into your account for eight months and they're not stealing it xD Man, you're making me laugh. Take screenshots of all ropes (location) accessing the account through the app
 
Skyisthelimit buys account from Puznowski - Aug 24, 2020
Skyisthelimit claims account was recovered - Sept 20, 2020
Feedback dispute opened June 24, 2021

Feedback disputes must be opened within 30 days of receiving them to properly investigate.

Your asking us to investigate a recall claim nearly a year later after the claim was made.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/how-to-report-a-feedback-dispute.389547/
After 30 days the burden of proof falls solely on the member who receives the feedback

Skythelimit replies are not required, he does not need to post any evidence.

The burden of proof falls solely to Puznowski. He must show the account was never recalled and the feedback is 100% false. This means Puznowski must recover the Instgram account, download all the account data, which Instagram allows, then we will review the information to see what happened around Sept 20, 2020.

If Puznowski can't do that, the feedback will remain. Since this dispute has been opened for 3 months, I will assume Puznowski can't recover the Instagtram account, which means he has no evidence. I will be reclosing this dispute due to lack of evidence.

I have removed the original positive feedback Skyisthelimit gave you.

You can message me if you want to discuss further.
 
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