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Exposed Lilyopo, Should have been done a long time ago..

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ExposeLilyopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lilyopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">everyone can see it in my thread, this guy who registered 2 days ago as he said posted in my thread on 06/26/09

well,this guy said he got 2 account,mod deleted the 1st one, and combined 2 accounts. doesn't he deserve a ban if he got 2 accounts? </div></div>

Thats just it, they combined them to prevent me from having two accounts, I guess it's their own safety feature. If I deserve a ban for it, Then I will accept a ban for it. You should man up an accept yours as well. </div></div>

We don't combine accounts, we ban them both. Especially when one is obviously used to bash another member. Also, I feel your story is extremely fishy. But I guess you're not going to have a chance to tell it.

Oh, and Lilyopo - you better not be dealing in stolen credit cards still. The only reason you're not banned for that is that you claim you didn't know and it seems you made good on all the deals.
 
Kind of sad to see someone get away with an account that I would highly consider to be valued at $5,000+.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ace Logan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

We don't combine accounts, we ban them both. Especially when one is obviously used to bash another member. Also, I feel your story is extremely fishy. But I guess you're not going to have a chance to tell it.

Oh, and Lilyopo - you better not be dealing in stolen credit cards still. The only reason you're not banned for that is that you claim you didn't know and it seems you made good on all the deals.</div></div>

Unlocked thread and unbanned Exposed. Apparently this was one of the cases where we DID merge accounts so he did not have his original account to log in too. My apologies about this.
 
oh,btw,why didn't you ban them both but combined them?

i'd like to compensate him as soon as he gives hunter back.
or if you can guarantee i can get hunter back as soon as i compensate him.
 
Thanks for the un-ban, and chance to finally resolve this issue. I can assure you I will provide you with a photo ID of my brother as soon as you compensate me.. Im not going to attempt to get it back FOR you, as I already know the account wasnt banned for sharing.
 
i suggest and lilyopo to use one of admins as middle man

lilyopo make conpensation and ExposeLilyopo send id to admins at the same time so that both of u feel easy

i am sorry to join in here , that is just my opinion
 
Im 100% fine with this, however I don't want the admins giving lilyopo the ID until my account is unlocked and playable. She owes me the money for the expansions and the one month of game time.
 
Well I don't have the hunter.. If it was banned for sharing it was your own fault, no one recalled it. You just keep on wanting.. first you requested the ID, not the account, now you want the account, all because you KNOW why it got banned.
 
but mr GBS,he doesn't care you ban him! you will put me in a loss! and btw,why do you ask me to compensate him first?
and ask the guy to contact me please, cus he put me on ignore! i need to talk about compensation,thank you.
and if he wants money,i need a verified paypal. a mod's job is to help ppl resolve problems if i'm right. if he doesn't give me the hunter,you ban him,problems still there waiting to be resolved. i don't owe him anything atm,i can't uderstand why i'm sentenced to compensate first,and can't be promised to given my compensation!
oh,another question, i need the screen short of the email which he got from blizz saying the account goblin**** was banned . and i need the username and pw to make sure it's banned!
and please do give me time,this needs time.thank you again!
 
Screen shots are posted on page one, pay more attention next time. MODS he/she just keeps on trying to worm themselves out of their own doings. It has been a week now, can I request lilyopo just be banned.. & yes I did put you on ignore, I don't like you spamming me on aim saying "You have to go first, I refuse to", I'd much rather deal with you on here, so there is hard evidence. Send me a private message if you decide you want to compensate me.
 
"You have to go first, I refuse to", you big liar ,i never say that,you said that again and again!
kelli9781 (7:57:15): You have to compensate first.

i said i would compensate him by paypal, i'm in China,i only got paypal, he refused ,and want money order! guess he was worried that i would take money back when he can't get me the ID ! lol , you see ,mr GBS, i don't owe him anything atm,you ask me to compensate him,and go first! and he will never come after! if he is planning to get me the ID,there is no need to worry about that,cus if i was planning to take money back,i don't need to choose to pay him now!
in one word, he is trying to scam, everyone can tell, and mods,you also can tell as so smart you are!
so give me a fair judge! or else this MD forum will be full of scammers. as you know,many ppl just do a deal and then don't use MD any more,and later get another account,and do another deal, or they don't need to get another account,you will combine their 2 accounts!
only few ppl care about MD,i am one of them, and in fact i got scammed now and then,i am one of those guys who hope this forum is full of honest and legit ppl instead of scammers.
 
Kiss [censored].. I don't want to deal with you backing funds after I do get you the hunter, That put me in debt a year or so back.. I refuse to deal with paypal, especially from someone shady like you.. Give lilyopo a ban and I will call it even, I already mailed bliz a money order last friday to get my account back, thank you for the help by the way MD. Im not set out to scam anyone.. I despise scammers, and I feel sorry for whoever you stole the credit card from. You don't just "have people add time for you" why the hell would someone do that for you? You make profit by scamming everyone.. it's a simple business many people run online. You're fooling no one.. I will accept a money order as compensation, otherwise, I do expect a ban to be in place.

& yes I did say you have to compensate me first, that's how it works.. I went first with you, and look where it got me. Im not the one in the wrong, you are. Understand?
 
if i wanted to back funds,i can choose not to pay you now! and you are not planning to get me hunter back,you know more info to the hunter than i do, you can easily get it back too! if you want money order to stop me from taking money back, i want you to send me money by WU to stop you from taking hunter back!
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: n00b saying he's a hax0r zomg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

kelli9781 (7:15:54): Ever head of cancerccx, or white hat dev?
kelli9781 (7:15:57): heard*
lilyopo (7:16:05): no
kelli9781 (7:16:26): Two very popular botnet teams.
kelli9781 (7:16:34): Are you aware of what a botnet is?
lilyopo (7:17:27): no
kelli9781 (7:17:31): You have pissed me off to the greatest extent.
kelli9781 (7:17:38): A botnet is, a zombie.
kelli9781 (7:18:01): A zombie is someone who's computer can be accessed at any time by someone else, remote trojan.
kelli9781 (7:18:19): It can be forced through Aim, Msn, Yahoo, Icq.
</div></div>

lol. Script kiddie much?

Your rage is hilarious.

And bragging about knowing what a zombie is doesn't make up for the fact of how fail you proved yourself with your earlier statements.

You're almost as bad as sub7fags. You probably couldn't even crack an admin cp or root or even DDoS.

I've traded with Lily before, she was very legit. I know many can vouch for that as well.

Cry some more, skiddy.
 
if one is legit,there is no need to put any trouble to mods or admins,and i was forced to compensate him and forced to go first, and he doesn't accept payment by paypal, apparently,he is planning to scam me.
thank you,Mariku. thank you for standing by the side of justice.
and i got to go now, it's a pity that i can't be here when you can.
 
srry to butt in, but don't you have a screen shot to proove the hunter was banned for 3rd party programs
 
GBS ,i have offered to compensate him,he doesn't accept it,i only got paypal.
now not my fault.

and i want to say it again, you know he is a scammer,you still ask me to compensate him and go first,expecting him to give me hunter, do we traders should trade and go first when we know the other side won't give us what we want? just wish he would? just wait to be scammed and then come to MD and ban him?

well,anyway, he doesn't want to accept payment,he doesn't want to get me hunter,so he asked mod to lock this thread.
anyway, i am waiting to pay money,ask him to get a verified paypal! and ready to give me hunter as soon as he gets payment!
 
Ask him to show me it was banned for sharing.. Im saying I never took it back, never even thought about it, and it wasnt possible for my brother to. It wasnt my fault it got banned, but yes, once I am compensated I will do everything in my power to get it back and give it to him. I cant get it back if it was banned for certain illegal matters, which I believe it was, seeing as it sat in AV for hours upon hours every night. I won't accept paypal due to obvious reasons..

& I said to lock the thread and ban you..
 
it's not banned for certain illegal matters, it was banned for account sharing.
and don't let me to say it again and again, i can just pay by paypal,if i wanted to scam you by paypal, i woudn't have chosen to compensate you! i'm waiting to pay you!
i don't understand what obvious reasons mean. you are worried that i would take money back, i'm not what you think !
and please don't waste my time any more, give me paypal account,you will get money, and give my hunter back.
i am waiting to pay,if you don't accept it but want me to be banned, obviously,you are not forcus on resolving the problem, tbh,i seldom meet ppl like this who is so mean!
 
because i am legit !

and i always use paypal !

can anyone tell me why that guy's 2 accounts can be combined instead of banned?

does that mean everyone can get 2 accounts and then get their accounts combined?
 
ok! finally saw a smile here! thank you
smile.gif


but that's impossible, Alexandra,i'm sorry,but i only use paypal.

oh, and i still want answer to the 2 questions mentioned.

i think the stutus is like, you ask me to compensate,and i am waiting. he doesn't accept paypal,i have no way to pay him. lol,this is ridiculous!
 
That's a decision I made. The user had no previous issues , no account notes , no shady behavior ...therefor there is no reason to ban both accounts.That however has no baring on your issue at all nor will I argue that point with you.

In regards to it being impossible for you to pay via Western Union ....it is most certainly not impossible. You just refuse to pay via anything else than PayPal.I just wanted to understand your reasoning here. Thanks.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ExposeLilyopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask him to show me it was banned for sharing.. Im saying I never took it back, never even thought about it, and it wasnt possible for my brother to. It wasnt my fault it got banned, but yes, once I am compensated I will do everything in my power to get it back and give it to him. I cant get it back if it was banned for certain illegal matters, which I believe it was, seeing as it sat in AV for hours upon hours every night. I won't accept paypal due to obvious reasons..

& I said to lock the thread and ban you.. </div></div>

If I remember right ..you said you did not have the ID for the account because your brother is deployed correct?
 
ok, i feel more comfortable to talk to you,Alex.
the reason why i only pay by paypal is i can only pay by paypal,which is the payment method i always use.
i don't think it's too late to ban me if i take money back after i get hunter. well,what i mean is i won't take money back if i get the hunter. that's why i said i'm legit :P

and i can tell you why he doesn't want to accept money by paypal but money order,cus he would run away with my money and leave me empty-handed. cus he knows he won't be able to get ID and give me my hunter, and he said he doesn't play wow any more,he doesn't deal with Markee, so he doesn't care if he will be banned or not.
 
i don't understand why that guy is a gentelman ,lol. i think mods can't vouch for anyone, but it seems you are a lawer of him,lol. well,it doesn't matter that much.

and i did require ID when we traded, he said he would bring it to me, but nothing came.

another guy helped me added stuff for him as i said, and i am waiting to pay him using manager's credit card, no issues.i enssure you,GBS. and in fact i can only use paypal.

GBS, you asked me to compensate him, i agreed, you asked me to go first, i agreed. and i'm waiting to pay him money, no one is going to accept it,you keep asking me to do this and do that,i don't want to argue.

but i think this is not on a business level but a personal level if i will pay by paypal. if it's understandable that user is uncomfortable accepting any form of Credit/Debit card payment from me,isn't it understandable that i can only pay by paypal?
 
Yes my brother is in Iraq currently, but I could have him fax me one. I don't trust lilyopo enough to use paypal, I hate paypal, and I know many of others share my hatred toward paypal. It's simply not safe any more.. It has been over a week now, I don't "need" his money, but if he wishes to compensate me I will acccept WU, otherwise please just ban him.. im not the only person he has done this to, and I wont be the last.. I have several friends who use MD, and they LOVE it, but they hate all the scammers who troll the forums.. I just simply want him to be banned, he was in the wrong and it's been a hassle on me since day one. He had 48 hours to compensate me, and he didn't do that.
 
i have been waiting for 3 days to give you compensation, you are keeping wasting time.
i told you to prove that the account was banned, and you didn't do it but brought this issue to MD, you didn't coorperate from the beginning.
and now you don't want to accept payment by paypal,which is the only way i do payment. you are afraid that i will take money back, i ensure you i won't, GBS is watching for you as you know! i dare not! even if no one is watching, i won't take it back, i compensated other guys, anyone said i took compensation back?

you are afraid , i understand, but am i not afraid?
you said you would bring me ID when we traded, now nothing come!!
how can i make sure you will ASK HIM TO FAX YOU this time? ?
how can i make sure you won't recall it again?
do i need to ask you to give me ID first to make sure you won't run away?
do i need to ask you to send me money instead to make sure you won't recall hunter again?
do i need to ask you to send money by WU too to make sure you won't take it back?

you are trying to corner ppl before he does anything wrong just because you are afraid!! may i call this selfish ? if ppl are afraid of running into a running car, do they have to stop going out and stay at home forever? or do they need to ask all the cars to stay at home instead?
 
Lilyopo, in all due respect, you're a complete illiterate idiot. Who honestly makes zero sense 80% of the time. Whenever I get on aim you just bullshit me and tell me to go first. Im done waiting. Mods lock this thread please, and give yopo what he rightfully deserves.
 
zero sense? that's the same sense as you made.

i told you to go first? lol, liar ! i have been waiting to compensate you,you keep wasting time and trying to corner me.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lilyopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and i can tell you why he doesn't want to accept money by paypal but money order,cus he would run away with my money and leave me empty-handed. cus he knows he won't be able to get ID and give me my hunter, and he said he doesn't play wow any more,he doesn't deal with Markee, so he doesn't care if he will be banned or not.
</div></div>

Lilyopo -

You owe this gentleman money. That's as OBVIOUS as it will become. You owe him money. He obviously does not wish to accept paypal because his current situation involved faulty credit card use by you and your previous contact. Paypal requires some form of credit/debit card. This user is uncomfortable accepting any form of Credit/Debit card
payment from you. That's understandable.

You were in possession of the account when it was banned. Bans happen. If you didn't require an ID upfront to complete the transaction, then, unfortunately you are out of an account. It's not uncommon for Blizzard to ban US accounts accessed outside the US (ie. China).

I think you are trying to divert the attention away from the situation at hand. The situation is you used an unreliable source that was defrauding you and your customers by using stolen credit cards. As a result of this, Exposelilyopo's account was locked by Blizzard and Blizzard is either perma-locking it or asking him to pay the money back. This is where you come in. You pay him for your irresponsible resources. Enough said.


On a side note, Exposelilyopo, would you be willing to accept paypal if it the money was sent as a 'gift' which cannot be disputed?

</div></div>

Sadly, I don't accept paypal period, it put me in a serious financial situation a while back. There are loop holes around everything. I don't even own one now..
 
i can only pay by paypal as i said, that's the only way i do. i have been waiting to pay you for days.

there are loop holes indeed. but you need to face it, you need to grow up.
i agreed to pay you and agreed to go first even tho i'm not sure if you can get me ID. and in fact i don't think you can, and i don't think you are planning to get it,which is why you don't want to accept money too.

man, let me say it again, i'm waiting to pay you, if you are afraid of anything, that's not my fault. i haven't paid you yet, there is no need to talk about taking money back.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lilyopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
you are afraid , i understand, but am i not afraid?
you said you would bring me ID when we traded, now nothing come!!
how can i make sure you will ASK HIM TO FAX YOU this time? ?
how can i make sure you won't recall it again?
do i need to ask you to give me ID first to make sure you won't run away?
do i need to ask you to send me money instead to make sure you won't recall hunter again?
do i need to ask you to send money by WU too to make sure you won't take it back?

you are trying to corner ppl before he does anything wrong just because you are afraid!! may i call this selfish ? if ppl are afraid of running into a running car, do they have to stop going out and stay at home forever? or do they need to ask all the cars to stay at home instead? </div></div>
I AM WAITING TO PAY YOU MONEY! I AM WAITING. IF YOU ARE STILL AFRAID,WELL, I'M NOT THE PSYCHOLOGIST,I'M SORRY.
 
ExposeLilyopo, if lilyopo sends the money as a gift or payment owed there is no way for him to dispute the transaction.

Your brother is in Iraq? How unfortunate. Lets hope after you been compensated you don't dissapear.

To be honest. It seems like Exposed just wants his money his way so he can just take the money and dip.
 
Agreed Judge someone with that type of name obviously doesnt plan on doing much bussiness here. Lilyopo i would ONLY send paypal. And i dont think its anyones right to choose payment
 
This is honestly getting ridiculous to read anymore... Expose dude your honestly being unfair. If lily sends the money as a gift you should not even have a problem, she cant take it back. Even you know that, I don't understand what your deal is and why your being so unfair about this...
 
Lol, I don't see why everyone is on Expose's case here. He was the victim of an irresponsible buyer. If the buyer buys an account, they inherit the risk of a ban on that account; but they are still responsible for compensation. In this case, Exposed was the victim of FRAUD, whether or not it was Lilyopo's fault entirely is questionable... However, Exposed has the right to determine a method of compensation he feels is safe.

Let's be honest here, we have seen that Paypal is the most used means to scam over the internet. It's fair for him to request a method of payment that is safe for him. This isn't just chump money either... we're talking about $4,200; and I'll be damned if anyone here implies the idea that they'd be more easy about choosing the best method of compensation for their interests.

As for Western Union, I don't see the issue. No, you cannot do a charge back... but what do you get? You get full information, regarding contact, name, address, affiliations, etc. With WU, you can file a civil case (and yes, I know it'd be hard if one of the people in the transaction lives in a totally different country accross the world). Point being, WU is safer for Exposed, obviously no chargeback can be issued.

Exposed, in my opinion, holds the reins (and the mods have made it clear that compensation will be Lilyopo first and abiding by Exposed's requests). Lilyopo is in the wrong here, and should be going the extra mile to satisfy the client.

I'm going to quit trolling now, and be a good reader here... but it's unfair that everyone else who is trolling as I am is taking the side of the accused. Take a look at what happened to the victim. He has made it very clear that Paypal has put him in financial woes in the past, and as a person who follows his instinct, who can blame him?

As for the gift/payment owed transaction... Like I said before, Exposed isn't a fan of Paypal. Even with this loop hole to the charge back, it's likely that an investigation over such a large transaction of money will be in order. Gifts or Payment owed does seem slightly suspicious when it comes to such a large sum of money.

I don't personally know how Paypal is going to manage this, but it seems like things will be investigated, and the case will go to the person who originally sent the money.
 
TJP, Expost is not only a victim but a scammer. even tho,i was sentenced to compensate him, and i have been wating as i said.
and the reason why i pay by paypal is i can only pay by paypal, and i can pay him *gift*. Expose is planning to scam . TJP, i don't think i have to repeat it a hundred times before you can understand it.
 
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