Cmsteve's Scammer

[gaumissy]

i got scammed by cmsteve
Information
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Dispute Date: June 21, 2015
Method of Contact Used: Skype
my skype+ epic id: Gaumissy
scammer skype: shubin391
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: CMSteve
Other information: I sell adena bartz before that at about 17:30 GMT+7 PM from skype shubin391.
After he got 3billion adena of me. He use "Unauthorized, Unauthorized Claim" by skype at 21/6/2015
i make feedback to him and got scammed after that.

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about: CMSteve ACCOUNT
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/792008
Approximate value of property: $99USD


Was a middleman used: No


Proof
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he's use "unauthorize claim" with me:

my 3billion adena sent to him + he got it:

 

[EpicNPC]

The Skype username and Paypal email do not match to cmsteve's account.

shubin391
[email protected]

I resolved the skype username and got the IP address, that is also not a match to cmsteve's account IP address.

I see no contact between you and cmsteve on our website.

How do know that shubin391 was cmsteve? From what I see it seems shubin391 was a scammer on Skype impersonating cmsteve.

Please post proof you were talking to cmsteve. This will be closed and the feedback will be removed in 24 hrs if proof is not provided.



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Cmsteve's info:
[email protected]
[email protected]
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[gaumissy]

we chat in skype and i offer he inbox to me on web. He use id cmsteve say "hey" with inbox. i ask you "cmsteve?". he say yes

proof
proof: i told him :"pm me epic", he say "done" at 17:19 and i have 1 inbox at 5:19 AM (my gmt +7)
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here is my chatlog:

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nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 16:18
> Still have, only trade with you have epic id+ feedback

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:19
> yes i have 2 feedback

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:19
> and what do u mean epic id?

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 16:20
> Wanna see your id. I check

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:20
> ofc

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:20
> i will pm u

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 16:20
> Y

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:20
> and u can show me adena first also ?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> to make sure both safe

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> Can

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> k np

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> u thread?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> let me pm u

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 16:21
> Meet you after 1-2hours, im working

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:22
> mhmm

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 16:27
> then just tell me when u done

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:15
> Ok can trade

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:15
> Pm me in epic

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:16
> whats u thread

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:18
> Www.epicnpc.com/threads/792008

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:19
> done

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:19
> Cmsteve ?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:20
> yeah

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:21
> Ok see

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:21
> Current 3b stock

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:21
> i need 4b

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:22
> but 3b ok

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:22
> how much for per b

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:22
> and how do u want to do this

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:22
> 31$/b. Payment me first, talk name after pay done

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:22
> Paypal can

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:23
> well

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:23
> u can show me adena?

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:23
> Y w8 log

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:23
> just a screenshot will be fine

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:24
> also whats your paypal

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:24
> [email protected]

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:26
> waiting update

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:27
> slow network..

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:28
> ok so

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:28
> how much forr 3b

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:29
> 93$

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:29
> also exchange feedback after we done?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:30
> [18:33:47] nguyễn quốc huy: [email protected]

<<< right?

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:30
> Yes

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:31
> sent

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:31
> check it

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:35
> Give me name

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:35
> log in

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> damnit bad network today..

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> domond

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> mail right?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> char name is domond

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> Y

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> k

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:38
> tell me when u done

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:39
> Sent, check + make feedback

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:42
> kk

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:42
> u thread?

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:42
> Www.epicnpc.com/threads/792008

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:42
> k sec

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:43
> +1 to me already?

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:44
> Doing

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:45
> Waiting your feedback

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:46
> doing also

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:48
> show Sorry, but you can not rate any more people today.

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:48
> whats that?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:49
> but i did yestday

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:49
> not today

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:52
> Still not yet ?

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:52
> same

nguyễn quốc huy - Thứ Sáu 17:52
> Lets do tomorrow help me

tracey W - Thứ Sáu 17:52
> ok i will

 

[EpicNPC]

Times adjusted to EST.

4:19 am - Message received (talking with you now)
1:31 pm - payment sent

The Paypal payment was sent 9 hours after the PM you received. From the chat logs above, it seems the deal was completed quickly, not 9 hours later.

You were talking to CMsteve twice that day?

 

[gaumissy]

the time is different because we havent GMT together. Im online chat with him at 17h and i mean him time is 5h am. that's different about gmt bro.
and payment sent to me is 17:31. check it here, not sent in 1:31 pm
i check inbox at 17:19 in same day
my gmt is +7
example: my time is now 00:05 am , gmt +7
in epic web is 12:05 pm

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paypal understood my proof and they refunded to me

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[EpicNPC]

Message - 5:19 am = 6:19 am EST
your settings show EST as the time zone setting (server time is wrong, 1 hour behind) so the message you received was 6:19 am EST, not GMT time as your Paypal.
http://i.imgur.com/Fjjk2Oh.png

Paypal - 17:21 pm (GMT) = 13:31 pm EST = 1:31 PM EST
http://i.imgur.com/HepKQkI.png

I did make a mistake, the PM was 6:19am EST not 4:19am EST. I subtracted an hour instead of adding by mistake.


I'm not arguing the person on Skype and Paypal didn't scam you, but you have not proved it is cmsteve. Email, Skype and IP address do not match to the person on Skype.

There's 7 hrs from when cmsteve sent you a message on our site to when you received payment. It appears to me someone else contacted you on Skype.

At this time no evidence has been shown that the Skype or email belong to cmsteve. moving to Off-Site scammers in 24 hrs if there's nothing else.

 

[gaumissy]

1. he inbox to me on epicnpc when i say him " i want to you inbox me on epic" (17:19pm gtm+7)
2. he payment me at 17:31pm on paypal when we make agree with deals
i'm not freetime to submit feedback free for person if he dont buy adena of me.
are you think he use fake ip or he+someone try to contact to lie ?
that's my offer. If ur can't see the truth. i'm silence

 

[EpicNPC]

Moving to off-site scammers forum.

 

[cmsteve]

I just back from my vacation then i see this.so what i scammed u?i pmed u then i back to work and forgot to contact u again.u must got scammed by someone else.if u dealed with me.why i didnt give u feedback after we done?plz remove my negative feedback !!

 

[EpicNPC]

its been removed.