cesonite scammed me and recalled the honkai star rail account i bought from hi

[winggs]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-buys-convinces-seller-go-first-with-his-good-rating-still-no-payment.2533500/

Information
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Purchase Date: 03/05/2023
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/eu-male-tl-31-seele-bronya-bailu-tingyun-sushang-for-sale.2498613/
Approximate value of item/service: $70USD
Date the problem began: 03/05/2023

Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site? epic npc
- If off-site, what website or chat?
--- What was your username?
--- What was the username of the other person?

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DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about?
the seller didn't change the account's email to my own and changed the password after i logged in.


Proof
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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) yes , it's in the thread
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) email login and password
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 5 minutes
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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[cesonite]

Claims i took back account with no proof what so ever? Nice try man... go **** yourself

 

[cesonite]

Proof that i replied before writing here:

 

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[cesonite]

I even offered to change the mail for him, then the buyer claims i took the account back? I even offered him to use middleman but he said they dont take paypal... I did a much bigger sale not to long ago why would i risk my account for 70 euro?

 

[winggs]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-buys-convinces-seller-go-first-with-his-good-rating-still-no-payment.2533500/

i can still send password request resets to the original account's email becasue it's still bound

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@cesonite are you the original owner?

 

[cesonite]

Yes I never linked any usename, birth date etc to the account, so even if i wanted to there is no way to prove i am the owner and take the account back since he changed the mail when he got the account and vertification codes. and the picture above is clearly not real. So i really dont know what his end goal is here? Are you just ****ing with people after sales or what do you get out of it winggs??

 

[winggs]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-buys-convinces-seller-go-first-with-his-good-rating-still-no-payment.2533500/

mods can check chat.
i told you to wait and help me change the email after i couldnt but you stayed online silent for 5 minutes then went offline.
at 2.15 you came back online , saw the DMs , ignored them and went back offline.
the email change happened yesterday after i told you i could still request account recovery but you had to change the email too.
i would ask that you show us your email history for verification codes but you would probably delete them too.
i have 13 trades completed and sold and bought accounts with up to 1600 usd in value.
meanwhile your only background is one trade through trade guardian no less.
it's funny how you call my pic fake when even your online activity is a dead giveaway.

 

[winggs]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-buys-convinces-seller-go-first-with-his-good-rating-still-no-payment.2533500/

you deliberately chose to ignore my DMs and concluded the trade without waiting for feedback from my side

 

[cesonite]

Even if i logged in what makes you so certain i read your message? Where is your proof?
You had the account and then you "lost" it. Then you say i took it back when i have no means to do so since you changed the mail...

And then you make a thread here??? what the **** is wrong with you man, you are clearly delusional.. What are you trying to get out of this and what have I done to you for you to sully my name like this?

 

[cesonite]

 

[cesonite]

I am clearly not the only one that has problems with him

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Dispute and Feedback Dispute Changes
Epicnpc will no longer review disputes if one of these three Trade Guardian options is not used. There will be 2 types of disputes that can be opened.

1. Trade Guardian dispute - If TG was used, we will fully investigate as normal.
2. Scam Review - If TG was not used, only an account review will be conducted on the accused's account. We will check if they're a known scammer, previously banned member or have been accused of scams on other sites. They will then either be banned or not. An investigation into the dispute will not be conducted.