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Hiya this question is for the smart people about doing this buying and selling.

Im wondering if there are any scams out there that could effect the buyer i.e. I provide the funds, can the original owner go back to Blizz and get the account back after Ive paid for it?

What are some steps I need to take to make sure this doesn't happen?

Thanks for any information.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWhit71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im wondering if there are any scams out there that could effect the buyer i.e. I provide the funds, can the original owner go back to Blizz and get the account back after Ive paid for it?</div></div>Yes the owner can recall the account.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWhit71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What are some steps I need to take to make sure this doesn't happen?</div></div> Sadly nothing you do can stop a true original owner from recalling the account if he chooses to. My best recommendation is to deal with someone who has rep, willing to talk on the phone etc... Some people will recommend transferring the character to new account but this doesn't stop OOs from recalling.
 
TY Keys -

I was thinking that if you moved the toon to a new account with a different Login name and different Secret Answer you would be clear...only thing not changed is the name on the account...why wouldnt this work?

Thanks for the info
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWhit71</div><div class="ubbcode-body">TY Keys -

I was thinking that if you moved the toon to a new account with a different Login name and different Secret Answer you would be clear...only thing not changed is the name on the account...why wouldnt this work?

Thanks for the info </div></div>

Even if you do transfer the character to a different account, doesn't mean it is 100% safe.
 
swTCH, you're getting back to yourself. The whole scammer section is "Get proof" "That sucks"... He asked how it can be recalled/why it doesn't work.


Anyways to stay on topic. They can call up Blizzard reverse the transfer and get it back on their account. Since they're OO and they have ALL the info on the account, they have 100% ownership to it. As Kevs said, get as much info as you can about them, talk to them over the phone, and do a transaction with reputable people untill you get the hang of it.
 
Thanks guys - but wouldn't him NOT having the new LOGIN name prevent him from reversing the transfer AND everything is changed on the account with the exception of his name of course.

What % would say I would be safe from him taking it back? 80%-90%?
 
Pretty much what they're trying to tell you is he can call Blizzard and make up a story about how you stole his account and then transfered it to a new one.

If the person wants their account back they can get it back.

But, what you can do is threaten the person. Because you have the info, you can continue to change the info and request a stolen account until it gets banned. Tell them that if they don't go through with their deal, no one will get the account.

Remember - you can take your money back from Paypal for about 45 days if the account gets recalled.

[edit] I can't really give you a %.. If they really want it back and they have ALL info, then they can get it back.
 
Trish - Excellent idea...thanks for the help. So I shouldnt even worry about transferring to another account is what Im hearing, and if they do try to take it back just threaten to call Blizzard and let them know that it was a sold account so the account is banned - Genius!
 
I've also been scammed and had the account recalled from under me. I unfortunately didn't have all the information. I didn't have the last name of the person that opened the account, but even if I had the name I couldn't know the credit card number used to activate the account. In other words it is impossible to have "all" the information on the account.

The next time I was successful in buying an account. Of course, I insisted on getting the sellers full name, address and phone number as well as the account info includeng secret question and emailaddress used on the account. Of course if the OO really wanted to get the account back, they have the credit card used to verify the account when it was first opened. So I negotiated with the seller to sign a clear statement that he was selling his account, for how much, and agree to never contact Blizzard about the account.

The seller was legit and had no issue signing the document. I don't belive the document was legally binding since he couldn't legally sell the account in the first place, but it could be used to prove to Blizzard that the account was sold and not hacked. Unfortunatly the only thing a buyer can do with it is get the account banned.

The bottom line is you can be scammed. You can make it clear that if it is recalled, the account will get banned but a scammer probably won't care. The OO might care since he (or she) put all the effort into building the character. Therefore, as others have said, make sure you know the seller. Make sure he/she has reputation and verify that person you are dealing with is the same person as the one with the reputation.

Good luck.

p.s. This is the agreement I used last time:
“I, <seller full name>, the seller, agree to provide <buyer full name>, the buyer, the user name and password to the World Of Warcraft account under <the name the account is under> containing the following characters <Character1> and <character2> on <server> hereafter called the account. Upon receipt of payment in the amount of $<amount> from the buyer, I agree to never attempt to change the password on the account, to provide the secret question and answer for the account, to forward any emails sent to me from Blizzard regarding the account to <buyeremail> and to assist the buyer to make certain the account is transferred to his control. Further I agree that once I have received payment I will not contact Blizzard concerning the account unless authorized to do so by the buyer. Finally I agree that if I am ever contacted by Blizzard regarding the account I will forward any emails or letters to the buyer.”
 
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