Buyer falsely claimed not being able to log on account after successful binded

[NEETgamer]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 11/12/2021
Date the problem began: 11/12/2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): epicnpc messenger + discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: mirconahuel / Matias Arnold#1462
Your Instant Messenger ID: NEET#3980

Other information:

I've given away and sold blue archive re-rolls before this transaction so I know his claims are BS. Overall it's a small loss for my end good thing I started out with my first sale here with a rather smaller less value account. I don't know if this will be investigated or not since it's partially communicated through discord but at least a WARNING for those AVOID this buyer/seller:

mirconahuel​

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/global-na-not-bound-iori-hibiki-shun.2098846/
Approximate value of property: $100
Was Trade Guardian used?
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?

Buyer claimed he could not log in the game after successfully binding the account to his Nexon ID. Account was successfully binded to Nexon ID the buyer provided. Buyer continued to post screenshots of not being able to load into the game. Attempted to use the Nexon ID buyer provided but the account does not exist or password has been changed.

Other details / notes:

Buyer asked for Discord ID to communicate there alternatively and I provided him my new discord id that I recently just made for trading purposes here on epic npc. He was the only one in my message history here on epic npc since he was the very first one I contacted using this account so he's the only one who knows of my new discord id through epic npc messages but he claims this false as evidence shown from screenshots below he tried to fake the communication by deleting his epicnpc username from the discord chat after the transaction (thankfully I took screenshots before he did this as shown below)


Proof
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Other proof:

Proof of account binded to Nexon ID provided by Buyer

Account Recalls
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Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
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How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
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[mirconahuel]

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Banned - scammer

Explained the guy that it was not my discord, nor my name, neither the Paypal I've used on the site, my Paypal is [email protected].

 

[Angel]

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Please post an image of their discord ID with #

 

[NEETgamer]

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Thank you for the response!

Unfortunately I do not have the ability to obtain this anymore as I already blocked the Discord ID in question. I just copy pasted the following: Matias Arnold#1462 before I blocked him. All the information and proof of screenshots I have is posted above.
I wouldn't go this far just to falsely accuse anyone, what am I to gain? I gave the account first before payment because I trust and have faith in people.

I tried to think very long and hard on how is it possible for the scammer to no be him but.. He was the only one to know of my NEW Discord ID that I recently just made for the purposes of trading here on EPICNPC and I messaged him that ID info through EPIC NPC Chat system. Also he was in fact the first and only member I had chat history here on EPIC NPC no else could've possibly known of my new discord ID but him. He even went as far as deleting that part in discord after I asked him to confirm his username from epicnpc. He deleted it after the account was binded and I started accusing him of thief.

I recently just sold a few accounts successfully without issues and received positive feedback for them miraculously even though I was hurt by the negative rating left by this member.
So yeah I will continue to use my HONESTY and he can keep his LIES. He knows exactly what he did and we both know it. I believe in Karma and hope someday you will pay for what your doing.

I've already lost the account and I've got nothing else to gain from this but to at the very least warn future members to beware and or avoid this member.

If there is anymore information needed from me please let me know I will gladly provide anything I can.

 

[mirconahuel]

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Banned - scammer

Most trades I used TG and all payments were received to mentioned above Paypal, how do I know you're not making this up to make me pay ? I had a similar dispute with a member named Boup where he did not confirm the payment and the discord I used to talk to him was a different one than what you saying, if its needed I can show my real life ID that matches my epicnpc name to prove I'm not who you're saying you are. I'm not mad towards you man, but that wasn't me.

 

[mirconahuel]

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Banned - scammer

My intention is neither to affect you by a negative feedback but you're affecting me with a WARNING yellow thing on my profile I have to defend myself because I did not do that. I already contacted discord support to get my chat with Boup and show the discord I use is not the one you're claiming, I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[Angel]

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[NEETgamer]

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After looking through my screenshots folder extensively I found this screenshot as you can see in the dark background is the discord chat window

 

[NEETgamer]

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Here is another angle of evidence, if you look at the system time on my computer on the bottom right corner it shows how consistent the time is to the discord chat on the left as well as aligning with the time consistent to the EPIC NPC Chat on the top right.

This also shows proof that he was the only one I was in contact with in the EPIC NPC chat room as well as discord (AMG★ is a friend account and unrelated)

 

[NEETgamer]

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This was already posted up there but just to make it clear this is my strongest evidence and the original screenshot (without the red arrow edit)

BEFORE the scam:

AFTER the scam:

IF the scammer is really just faking someone else on EPICNPC. WHY would the scammer go so far to protect that EPICNPC user? Wouldn't the scammer just runaway and let the EPICNPC user take all the blame? That does not make sense, the scammer is clearly trying to protect its own identity and reputation on EPIC NPC. Therefore the only conclusion here is Matias Arnold#1462 from discord and mirconahuel from EPIC NPC is ONE and the SAME person.

 

[NEETgamer]

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Also, in case this comes up, I might be accused of already revealing my Discord ID (yes the first time I revealed it was to mirconahuel) the second time is up there at the beginning of this thread. Now my discord ID is completely public on my profile as I recently upgraded my membership:

But this was all AFTER this very first failed transaction happened.
I've since sold a few successful transactions without issues.

 

[mirconahuel]

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Banned - scammer

What do you mean by saying the scammer is protecting me ? Just because he blocked you after he took that account ? I have an account worth all your rerolls together, just because you paid 2$ to become epic member doesn't means you have the truth of this, I'm not even putting any effort on discussing with you I already tried to speak with you through private when you starting accusing me and you didn't seem to be willing to speak. I have nothing else to say, up to the mods to check on Boup that my discord is not the one you're saying or whatever they do. I sold accounts worth hundreds and never had a recovery problem or anything.

 

[mirconahuel]

Banned - scammer

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If you are going to ban me for something I did not do, do at once so I start selling my accounts elsewhere because no one is going to buy from me with that yellow flag, thanks.

 

[NEETgamer]

What do you mean by saying the scammer is protecting me ? Just because he blocked you after he took that account ? I have an account worth all your rerolls together, just because you paid 2$ to become epic member doesn't means you have the truth of this, I'm not even putting any effort on discussing with you I already tried to speak with you through private when you starting accusing me and you didn't seem to be willing to speak. I have nothing else to say, up to the mods to check on Boup that my discord is not the one you're saying or whatever they do. I sold accounts worth hundreds and never had a recovery problem or anything.

Just because he blocked you after he took that account ?

Correction I blocked Matias Arnold#1462

I have an account worth all your rerolls together

Sure you do *chuckles* this comment alone summarizes how immature you are.

just because you paid 2$ to become epic member doesn't means you have the truth of this

It's $3 and no my membership has nothing to do with you. It's my commitment to being a legitimate honest seller.

I'm not even putting any effort on discussing with you I already tried to speak with you through private when you starting accusing me and you didn't seem to be willing to speak

I wasn't really planning on doing anything further as it wasn't worth it for me to waste my time on a single re-roll but you dared me to report it so here we are now.

I gave you a negative rating because you obviously scammed me but at this point you DIDN'T have a "Caution Warning" yet.

You gave me a negative rating in RETALIATION. Not because you were trying to DEFEND yourself.

The "Caution Warning" came after I reported you here which is exactly what you dared me to do.

As you can see all of this is your fault and your doing, it's funny how you suddenly changed your tone after I created this dispute. You probably weren't expecting this much information/evidence from me. You underestimated me.

I don't know what the final outcome of this dispute will be but you will NOT get an apology from me

At this point I honestly don't care if there'll be a permanent negative rating on my account if it helps bring down a scammer. I'll continue to use my HONESTY to gain trust and recover from this. Good luck to you!

 

[mirconahuel]

Banned - scammer

Lol they'll investigate and figure out I guess, next time use middleman, hope you've learned your lesson, not gonna write a Bible as you did. Good luck to you also.

 

[Angel]

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[EpicNPC CM]

mirconahuel has been banned​