Boosting/Leveling rule change for hand-leveled services

[EpicNPC]

We are aware that some boosting and leveling service providers are making claims in their threads about 'hand leveled' services that are not true. To combat this, we have added a new rule to the Boosting/Leveling section.

Basically it states, if a seller is claiming their service is "hand-leveled" they CANNOT deny a customer's request to view the service via stream. If they do, they cannot make the 'hand-leveled' claim in their sale thread.

https://www.epicnpc.com/infocenter/forumrules.html

Hand Leveling Terms
If a seller is claiming their leveling or boosting service is hand-leveled, they MUST provide the customer an option to view the service being performed via stream (for free) if requested.

• The seller does not need to make streams available for every order. Only if requested by the customer.
• Steaming information does not need to be posted in the sale thread.
• If a seller refuses a customer's request to view a stream, the seller cannot claim "hand leveled" in their sale thread and must remove that claim.

 

[MistiServices]

What about claims that gold is handmade, any changes about that?

 

[doomedtofail]

What about claims that gold is handmade, any changes about that?

This has been a problem for a long time. I personally think this is not a claim most resellers can make. A lot just buy from people who can supply a lot and cheap. In past I dealt with many resellers in wow gold section alone, and not one asked how legitimate my gold was or how it was made. Only question was how much i had and if I would accept there price. Yet all their threads claimed hand made. I have dealt in many games but this is just an example

 

[Angel]

Gold farm should be placed into the same basket as boosting/leveling rule

 

[EpicNPC]

A stream would not help with 'hand farmed gold' claims.

I don't see any rule that we could implement that would have any affect other than to ban the claim 'hand farmed gold' all together.

If you have an idea on how a gold seller could prove it was farmed, fell free to suggest it.

 

[Lucky_Charms]

Hand Farmed Gold is actually a bunch of Bullcrap 100%.

So called hand farmed gold, they get a drop post on the auction house and guess what the person who bought it probably has gold that was RMT or obtained through a bot.

I think the Hand Farmed Legal gold stuff is a crock of crap honestly, the same as the people selling gold making methods that are just the same methods YouTube has.

 

[NEONSECT]

Hey guys! I have a quick question: that is, even sellers with a lot of reviews need to indicate (if our boosters do not have the ability to stream) that the service is done "automatically by bots"? This will be lie to customers since we never work with bots / soft or stuff like that for all 6 years we on forum. We have never had such claims and generally cannot have them, since we either work with ex. e-sports players in the past, or with the TOP 100 players in the world. Always and in all disciplines.

I think that this mark can hit sales hard and, in general, have a very negative effect on the reputation of the store, because if I understand correctly, then we need to either always provide a stream (on request), or not work from this category (since no one will be interested in the service with a fake botting mark)?

 

[Adoxia]

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Hey guys! I have a quick question: that is, even sellers with a lot of reviews need to indicate (if our boosters do not have the ability to stream) that the service is done "automatically by bots"? This will be lie to customers since we never work with bots / soft or stuff like that for all 6 years we on forum. We have never had such claims and generally cannot have them, since we either work with ex. e-sports players in the past, or with the TOP 100 players in the world. Always and in all disciplines.

I think that this mark can hit sales hard and, in general, have a very negative effect on the reputation of the store, because if I understand correctly, then we need to either always provide a stream (on request), or not work from this category (since no one will be interested in the service with a fake botting mark)?

I’m not sure how your boosters would not have the ability to stream. They could stream via any service they wish to stream through. (Twitch, Youtube, Facebook, and Discord) Failure to be able to offer a stream on-request means you can’t have hand leveled in your thread as it is a false claim as you would avoid proving that you are boosting legitimately.

 

[EpicNPC]

I don't see any reason why a stream could not be provided.

Sellers do not need to stream every order, the rules is only if the buyer requests it. I'm sorry, if the request is denied, then the seller cannot state hand-leveling in their thread.

 

[MistiServices]

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[EpicNPC]

Until the complaint it confirmed, yes, the seller can continue as normal.

 

[zLeveling]

If a seller refuses a customer's request to view a stream, the seller cannot claim "hand leveled" in their sale thread and must remove that claim.

i was not aware of these changes when it was posted. i refused a request to stream for free. i instead ask for extra payment to stream. now that i am aware of it and willing to comply with the free streaming, am I still obligated to indicate that my service is done both by "hand-made or automatically by bot"?

 

[EpicNPC]

You can, but since you're thread still says "hand-made" you would then be required to offer free streams if the customer requests it.

 

[zLeveling]

is this statement correct? this is from a mod that deleted my thread

"Once a free streaming is rejected (or it gets charged), handmade statement or claim of you streaming can't be added to the thread.
The only workaround is offering both, handmade and bots services, so you can have another chance to still offer handmade.
But once stream is rejected or money is asked for it your service is automatically labeled as performed with cheats. That's the rules, I can't change them."

 

[EpicNPC]

Once a free streaming is rejected (or it gets charged), handmade statement or claim of you streaming can't be added to the thread.
The only workaround is offering both, handmade and bots services, so you can have another chance to still offer handmade.

Correct. If the seller is found to not offer free streams for any handmade leveling/boosting services a second time, that seller will then no longer be able to state handmade in any threads and most likely receive a temp ban for the 2nd violation.

 

[zLeveling]

Correct. If the seller is found to not offer free streams for any handmade leveling/boosting services a second time, that seller will then no longer be able to state handmade in any threads and most likely receive a temp ban for the 2nd violation.

i see. thank you. so this means that first offense can be considered