Beyonder4ever - daybeyondernight:skype + hornybadger12420:aim is a scammer BEWARE
Information
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Date that scamming took place: 31/03/2012
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: Knighttime/daybeyondernight
Your Instant Messenger ID: your nickname on IM client
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: beyonder4ever
Other information:
Scam Information
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What was scammed? Gladiator hunter + various other 85 char
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-euro-acc...ilevel-elite-pvp-gear-many-mounts-titles.html
Approximate value of scammed property: was promised 600 euros
Was a middleman used?
If yes, who? no
Describe how you were scammed:
Other details / notes: I advertised my hunter on epicnpc, got a response from said member which we talked on skype about. Because of him having more feedback than me I went first giving out login details + security question answer. He then supposedly initiated the bank transfer and said it would arrive on the 5th of May. He seemed to be a nice guy, was active on skype and replied to me when I had questions etc. However today I whispered him in-game asking him to log skype (cash was promised but still haven't recieved it) and he didn't know who I was. Apparently he traded my account to person X who then traded it to person Y.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: [3/31/2012 3:06:57 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I have many bids so far
[3/31/2012 3:07:22 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: highest bid is £400 which is around 477eur if im not mistaken
[3/31/2012 3:07:38 PM] Knighttime: well, i'm actually very interested, so i could be able to buyout this acc from you. My max bid is 600euro
[3/31/2012 3:08:01 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: hmm 600
[3/31/2012 3:08:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I think that sounds fair
[3/31/2012 3:08:27 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: for a buyout
[3/31/2012 3:08:37 PM] Knighttime: epic
[3/31/2012 3:09:57 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i am original account owner
[3/31/2012 3:10:16 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so I have everything u need
[3/31/2012 3:10:31 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I wont quit wow, so I will be available 24/7 if u ever need me
[3/31/2012 3:11:13 PM] Knighttime: also, will you be able to go first with at least username/password/secret answer, i have had bad experiances with buying accs a few weeks ago
[3/31/2012 3:11:34 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: well, my request is that you send money first
[3/31/2012 3:11:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I am fine to give you account/password but nothing further than that
[3/31/2012 3:12:04 PM] Knighttime: i'm sorry, but as you are fairly new to this site, i will require at least secret answer first
[3/31/2012 3:12:05 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: until the cash reaches my bank account will I give you all the details u need
[3/31/2012 3:12:48 PM] Knighttime: you are new to this site right?
[3/31/2012 3:12:50 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: yes
[3/31/2012 3:12:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: its my first time selling
[3/31/2012 3:13:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so I will be as careful as needed
[3/31/2012 3:13:20 PM] Knighttime: well, i'm gonna have to be careful too. The last time i went first, i was scammed
[3/31/2012 3:14:39 PM] Knighttime: true, but you can check my rep and pm me on the site
[3/31/2012 3:15:49 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: but that doesn't mean anything really
[3/31/2012 3:15:53 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you can still scam me
[3/31/2012 3:16:05 PM] Knighttime: yes, but i am less likely too
[3/31/2012 3:16:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: haha less likely ;P
[3/31/2012 3:16:26 PM] Knighttime:
[3/31/2012 3:16:37 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: well we need to both do something that the other is happy with
[3/31/2012 3:16:47 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you are able to pay now?
[3/31/2012 3:16:53 PM] Knighttime: yep
[3/31/2012 3:17:02 PM] Knighttime: btw, its gonna be international bank transfer
[3/31/2012 3:17:05 PM] Knighttime: i live in singappore
[3/31/2012 3:17:54 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you don't have access to paypal, moneybookers etc
[3/31/2012 3:18:05 PM] Knighttime: paypal, my acc is locked
[3/31/2012 3:18:14 PM] Knighttime: can only do bank transfer
[3/31/2012 3:18:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what information will you need for that
[3/31/2012 3:20:12 PM] Knighttime: bank name, your first and last name,swift code, bank acc number.
[3/31/2012 3:22:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I dunno man, I dont feel safe with this (worry)
[3/31/2012 3:22:40 PM] Knighttime: dude, i dont wanna scam anyone, but i dont wanna get scammed either (worry)
[3/31/2012 3:22:45 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I know
[3/31/2012 3:22:50 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: we are both in same situation
[3/31/2012 3:22:55 PM] Knighttime: yea
[3/31/2012 3:24:28 PM] Knighttime: i understand. But you can still scam me, all you need to do is to change the password and i'm out 600euro
[3/31/2012 3:24:35 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I guess
[3/31/2012 3:24:49 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: can't you give first half now
[3/31/2012 3:24:56 PM] Knighttime: no way dude
[3/31/2012 3:25:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you can also scam me
[3/31/2012 3:25:08 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I can give u all my details
[3/31/2012 3:25:09 PM] Knighttime: same
[3/31/2012 3:25:11 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: and u dont pay
We talked back and forth etc, then I finally gave him login details / bank details which I won't paste here for obvious reasons
[3/31/2012 3:44:22 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: why is this in your profile
[3/31/2012 3:44:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ''Never trust this guy, he is a 6 year old scammer. Do not ever trade or sell or buy off him!''
[3/31/2012 3:44:42 PM] Knighttime: oh, my friend put that as a joke, you can contact him if you want
[3/31/2012 3:44:43 PM] Knighttime: i have his skype
[3/31/2012 3:45:15 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: can u tell him to reply to me on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:45:36 PM] Knighttime: sure, hes not online atm, its pretty late where me and him live. i actually *** soon
[3/31/2012 3:45:37 PM] Knighttime: sleep
Please take note of the highlighted red section ***** full info will be pasted near the end
[3/31/2012 3:45:57 PM] Knighttime: so on epicnpc or on skype>
[3/31/2012 3:46:02 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:46:28 PM] Knighttime: ok, will do. Thanks for trusting me m8, really means alot
[3/31/2012 3:46:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: we will see what happens
[3/31/2012 3:47:15 PM] Knighttime: you wont be disappointed m8, if the money doesnt come by 5th april, i will give the acc back asap
[3/31/2012 3:47:54 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: don't forget to stay on skype when your online, and ask your friend to reply back on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:47:55 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i sent him a pm
[3/31/2012 3:48:03 PM] Knighttime: ofc
[3/31/2012 3:49:01 PM] Knighttime: well dude, i'm going to sleep now, i'm putting my status as busy, you can still msg me and stuff
[3/31/2012 3:49:02 PM] Knighttime: adios
[3/31/2012 3:49:15 PM] Knighttime: if u need anything, skype me or pm me on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:49:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ok great
[3/31/2012 3:49:26 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: gn
[3/31/2012 3:49:51 PM] Knighttime: gn
Then today I whisper him in-game to find out it was not him, I asked the guy that was playing to add me to skype so I can find out more
[2:06:00 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i sold account to beyondernight
[2:06:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: but he still hasn't paid me
[2:06:24 PM] jake avila: i got this accont from jonaton barlowe
[2:06:31 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: : s
[2:06:41 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what was his skype?
[2:06:41 PM] jake avila: he ripped you off?
[2:06:50 PM] jake avila: Contact received from jake avila
[2:07:18 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: from what website?
[2:07:29 PM] jake avila: i have no clue he just added me on skype one day
[2:07:35 PM] jake avila: i only use 2 websites
[2:07:38 PM] jake avila: mywowarmory
[2:07:42 PM] jake avila: and egmaingsupply
[2:07:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: did he say he was original owner?
[2:07:56 PM] jake avila: nope
[2:08:29 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: when did u get the account?
[2:08:41 PM] jake avila: just today
[2:10:15 PM] jake avila: he ripped you off? or something
[2:11:37 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: hmm I dunno
[2:11:47 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i will wait till he logs
[2:12:08 PM] jake avila: who jonaton?
[2:12:14 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: no
[2:12:17 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i dont know who he is
[2:12:26 PM] jake avila: hes the one that traded this account
[2:12:39 PM] jake avila: you can talk to him and see where he got this account from
[2:12:42 PM] jake avila: or something
[2:12:45 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ye i will
[2:13:23 PM] jake avila: sorry if i did anything wrong i didnt know anything about this account
[2:14:36 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what did u trade with him
[2:14:48 PM] jake avila: i had 9 85s well geared for pve/pvp
[2:14:51 PM] jake avila: with 20k on the account and rare mounts
[2:15:11 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you only got hunter?
[2:15:15 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: or more 85s
[2:15:39 PM] jake avila: i got 2 hunters rogue shaman mage
[2:15:43 PM] jake avila: very geared
[2:17:18 PM] jake avila: so did the guy rip you off?
[2:17:19 PM] jake avila: or something
[2:17:26 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i dont know
[2:17:34 PM] jake avila: how do you not know?
[2:17:35 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: he didnt pay me yet
[2:17:38 PM] jake avila: oh
[2:17:46 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: he was on skype yesterday
[2:17:48 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: and we were talking
[2:17:59 PM] jake avila: why would you give your info out with him paying
[2:18:07 PM] jake avila: i would be like money first or something
[2:18:16 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: because he had more feedback than me
[2:18:22 PM] jake avila: oh
[2:18:41 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so i figured he was legit
So beyondernight traded my account to others without even paying me
as mentioned above here is the lengths he will go to cover his *** ******
Other proof:
So beyonder4ever ensures me that dreamon321 is his friend and his post was a joke
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? I read his feedback and everything seemed fine. He had a comment in his profile but he said it was his friend ''messing'' around you can find this above. This leads me to think that he is also dreamon321 or he is involved in the scam too
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? none
I have called blizz and got back my account, I just feel sorry for the other 2 people that traded their characters for my account - I hope you guys won't be as stupid as me and avoid dealing with this person at all costs as he certainly isn't legit.
The poor guy that traded for my account did tell me this
[5:11:47 PM] jake avila: dont trust him or a guy named callondutyblackcop or whatever
I did a google search for him and guess what came up - http://www.**************.com/scammers/1386784-sketchy-_.html , please note that ''hornybadger12420'' is his aim contact and he seems to have more than 1 skype account and yes he is also callondutyblackop
Information
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Date that scamming took place: 31/03/2012
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: Knighttime/daybeyondernight
Your Instant Messenger ID: your nickname on IM client
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: beyonder4ever
Other information:
Scam Information
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What was scammed? Gladiator hunter + various other 85 char
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-euro-acc...ilevel-elite-pvp-gear-many-mounts-titles.html
Approximate value of scammed property: was promised 600 euros
Was a middleman used?
If yes, who? no
Describe how you were scammed:
Other details / notes: I advertised my hunter on epicnpc, got a response from said member which we talked on skype about. Because of him having more feedback than me I went first giving out login details + security question answer. He then supposedly initiated the bank transfer and said it would arrive on the 5th of May. He seemed to be a nice guy, was active on skype and replied to me when I had questions etc. However today I whispered him in-game asking him to log skype (cash was promised but still haven't recieved it) and he didn't know who I was. Apparently he traded my account to person X who then traded it to person Y.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: [3/31/2012 3:06:57 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I have many bids so far
[3/31/2012 3:07:22 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: highest bid is £400 which is around 477eur if im not mistaken
[3/31/2012 3:07:38 PM] Knighttime: well, i'm actually very interested, so i could be able to buyout this acc from you. My max bid is 600euro
[3/31/2012 3:08:01 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: hmm 600
[3/31/2012 3:08:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I think that sounds fair
[3/31/2012 3:08:27 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: for a buyout
[3/31/2012 3:08:37 PM] Knighttime: epic
[3/31/2012 3:09:57 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i am original account owner
[3/31/2012 3:10:16 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so I have everything u need
[3/31/2012 3:10:31 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I wont quit wow, so I will be available 24/7 if u ever need me
[3/31/2012 3:11:13 PM] Knighttime: also, will you be able to go first with at least username/password/secret answer, i have had bad experiances with buying accs a few weeks ago
[3/31/2012 3:11:34 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: well, my request is that you send money first
[3/31/2012 3:11:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I am fine to give you account/password but nothing further than that
[3/31/2012 3:12:04 PM] Knighttime: i'm sorry, but as you are fairly new to this site, i will require at least secret answer first
[3/31/2012 3:12:05 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: until the cash reaches my bank account will I give you all the details u need
[3/31/2012 3:12:48 PM] Knighttime: you are new to this site right?
[3/31/2012 3:12:50 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: yes
[3/31/2012 3:12:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: its my first time selling
[3/31/2012 3:13:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so I will be as careful as needed
[3/31/2012 3:13:20 PM] Knighttime: well, i'm gonna have to be careful too. The last time i went first, i was scammed
[3/31/2012 3:14:39 PM] Knighttime: true, but you can check my rep and pm me on the site
[3/31/2012 3:15:49 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: but that doesn't mean anything really
[3/31/2012 3:15:53 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you can still scam me
[3/31/2012 3:16:05 PM] Knighttime: yes, but i am less likely too
[3/31/2012 3:16:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: haha less likely ;P
[3/31/2012 3:16:26 PM] Knighttime:
[3/31/2012 3:16:37 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: well we need to both do something that the other is happy with
[3/31/2012 3:16:47 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you are able to pay now?
[3/31/2012 3:16:53 PM] Knighttime: yep
[3/31/2012 3:17:02 PM] Knighttime: btw, its gonna be international bank transfer
[3/31/2012 3:17:05 PM] Knighttime: i live in singappore
[3/31/2012 3:17:54 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you don't have access to paypal, moneybookers etc
[3/31/2012 3:18:05 PM] Knighttime: paypal, my acc is locked
[3/31/2012 3:18:14 PM] Knighttime: can only do bank transfer
[3/31/2012 3:18:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what information will you need for that
[3/31/2012 3:20:12 PM] Knighttime: bank name, your first and last name,swift code, bank acc number.
[3/31/2012 3:22:21 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I dunno man, I dont feel safe with this (worry)
[3/31/2012 3:22:40 PM] Knighttime: dude, i dont wanna scam anyone, but i dont wanna get scammed either (worry)
[3/31/2012 3:22:45 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I know
[3/31/2012 3:22:50 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: we are both in same situation
[3/31/2012 3:22:55 PM] Knighttime: yea
[3/31/2012 3:24:28 PM] Knighttime: i understand. But you can still scam me, all you need to do is to change the password and i'm out 600euro
[3/31/2012 3:24:35 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I guess
[3/31/2012 3:24:49 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: can't you give first half now
[3/31/2012 3:24:56 PM] Knighttime: no way dude
[3/31/2012 3:25:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you can also scam me
[3/31/2012 3:25:08 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: I can give u all my details
[3/31/2012 3:25:09 PM] Knighttime: same
[3/31/2012 3:25:11 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: and u dont pay
We talked back and forth etc, then I finally gave him login details / bank details which I won't paste here for obvious reasons
[3/31/2012 3:44:22 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: why is this in your profile
[3/31/2012 3:44:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ''Never trust this guy, he is a 6 year old scammer. Do not ever trade or sell or buy off him!''
[3/31/2012 3:44:42 PM] Knighttime: oh, my friend put that as a joke, you can contact him if you want
[3/31/2012 3:44:43 PM] Knighttime: i have his skype
[3/31/2012 3:45:15 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: can u tell him to reply to me on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:45:36 PM] Knighttime: sure, hes not online atm, its pretty late where me and him live. i actually *** soon
[3/31/2012 3:45:37 PM] Knighttime: sleep
Please take note of the highlighted red section ***** full info will be pasted near the end
[3/31/2012 3:45:57 PM] Knighttime: so on epicnpc or on skype>
[3/31/2012 3:46:02 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:46:28 PM] Knighttime: ok, will do. Thanks for trusting me m8, really means alot
[3/31/2012 3:46:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: we will see what happens
[3/31/2012 3:47:15 PM] Knighttime: you wont be disappointed m8, if the money doesnt come by 5th april, i will give the acc back asap
[3/31/2012 3:47:54 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: don't forget to stay on skype when your online, and ask your friend to reply back on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:47:55 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i sent him a pm
[3/31/2012 3:48:03 PM] Knighttime: ofc
[3/31/2012 3:49:01 PM] Knighttime: well dude, i'm going to sleep now, i'm putting my status as busy, you can still msg me and stuff
[3/31/2012 3:49:02 PM] Knighttime: adios
[3/31/2012 3:49:15 PM] Knighttime: if u need anything, skype me or pm me on epicnpc
[3/31/2012 3:49:25 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ok great
[3/31/2012 3:49:26 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: gn
[3/31/2012 3:49:51 PM] Knighttime: gn
Then today I whisper him in-game to find out it was not him, I asked the guy that was playing to add me to skype so I can find out more
[2:06:00 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i sold account to beyondernight
[2:06:04 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: but he still hasn't paid me
[2:06:24 PM] jake avila: i got this accont from jonaton barlowe
[2:06:31 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: : s
[2:06:41 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what was his skype?
[2:06:41 PM] jake avila: he ripped you off?
[2:06:50 PM] jake avila: Contact received from jake avila
[2:07:18 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: from what website?
[2:07:29 PM] jake avila: i have no clue he just added me on skype one day
[2:07:35 PM] jake avila: i only use 2 websites
[2:07:38 PM] jake avila: mywowarmory
[2:07:42 PM] jake avila: and egmaingsupply
[2:07:51 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: did he say he was original owner?
[2:07:56 PM] jake avila: nope
[2:08:29 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: when did u get the account?
[2:08:41 PM] jake avila: just today
[2:10:15 PM] jake avila: he ripped you off? or something
[2:11:37 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: hmm I dunno
[2:11:47 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i will wait till he logs
[2:12:08 PM] jake avila: who jonaton?
[2:12:14 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: no
[2:12:17 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i dont know who he is
[2:12:26 PM] jake avila: hes the one that traded this account
[2:12:39 PM] jake avila: you can talk to him and see where he got this account from
[2:12:42 PM] jake avila: or something
[2:12:45 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: ye i will
[2:13:23 PM] jake avila: sorry if i did anything wrong i didnt know anything about this account
[2:14:36 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: what did u trade with him
[2:14:48 PM] jake avila: i had 9 85s well geared for pve/pvp
[2:14:51 PM] jake avila: with 20k on the account and rare mounts
[2:15:11 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: you only got hunter?
[2:15:15 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: or more 85s
[2:15:39 PM] jake avila: i got 2 hunters rogue shaman mage
[2:15:43 PM] jake avila: very geared
[2:17:18 PM] jake avila: so did the guy rip you off?
[2:17:19 PM] jake avila: or something
[2:17:26 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: i dont know
[2:17:34 PM] jake avila: how do you not know?
[2:17:35 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: he didnt pay me yet
[2:17:38 PM] jake avila: oh
[2:17:46 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: he was on skype yesterday
[2:17:48 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: and we were talking
[2:17:59 PM] jake avila: why would you give your info out with him paying
[2:18:07 PM] jake avila: i would be like money first or something
[2:18:16 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: because he had more feedback than me
[2:18:22 PM] jake avila: oh
[2:18:41 PM] Champz/Yeabudz: so i figured he was legit
So beyondernight traded my account to others without even paying me
as mentioned above here is the lengths he will go to cover his *** ******
Other proof:
So beyonder4ever ensures me that dreamon321 is his friend and his post was a joke
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? I read his feedback and everything seemed fine. He had a comment in his profile but he said it was his friend ''messing'' around you can find this above. This leads me to think that he is also dreamon321 or he is involved in the scam too
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? none
I have called blizz and got back my account, I just feel sorry for the other 2 people that traded their characters for my account - I hope you guys won't be as stupid as me and avoid dealing with this person at all costs as he certainly isn't legit.
The poor guy that traded for my account did tell me this
[5:11:47 PM] jake avila: dont trust him or a guy named callondutyblackcop or whatever
I did a google search for him and guess what came up - http://www.**************.com/scammers/1386784-sketchy-_.html , please note that ''hornybadger12420'' is his aim contact and he seems to have more than 1 skype account and yes he is also callondutyblackop
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