Age Accounts - New Requirement

[EpicNPC]

A new rule has been added in regards to the the bulk sale of aged accounts. We are now requiring sellers to have the 'Trusted' badge in order to post these types of sales.

Why are we adding this requirement?
The reason for the change is to prevent the sale of hacked accounts. We have been noticing with many social media categories that new sellers are listing large amounts of very old accounts for sale. We believe a very high amount of these accounts could be hacked or stolen. We are now only allowing long term sellers with good reputation to sell age accounts in bulk.


Changes to Upgrade Permissions

Verified upgrade:

• No longer required for anything. This will simply show members you have submitted additional information to EpicNPC.

Epic Member upgrade:

• Boosting/Leveling services. Any service that requires the customers login (previously required Verified)
• Top-up services for mobile games (previously required Verified)
• Script, cheap, hack that requires the buyer to download a file (no change)
• Beta/Alpha keys and accounts. One time user codes (no change)

Trusted upgrade: (new requirement)

• Bulk sale of aged accounts

Exceptions to the rules.
The rules are meant to be narrow, not broad. We're not trying to target everyone. This rules does not affect the following:

• Starter accounts for mobile games
• The sale of old accounts
• Bulk sale of botted accounts

Example of what we are targeting.

(Social media or video game) Aged Accounts in bulk
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010...2016.

It will be up to mod discretion to issue warnings to sellers and remove threads.

Enforcement

• All sellers will have 10 days to edit or remove their 'aged accounts' threads unless they already have the "Trusted" badge.
• Warnings will be issued after 10 days and we will begin to remove threads.

 

[Angel]

I don't like the change made to the Verified upgrade.
Not only it proves my point that you're starving for money, but requiring the Verified upgrade was also a deterrent against easy scams.
Now it's easier to scam :
- Create an account
- Age it (buy cheap things, ask for feedbacks, whatever)
- Buy the Epic Member upgrade
- Create a thread about boosting and top-ups
- ???
- Profit from account access and services money (=run away with your loot)
- Get banned, repeat. (~2 weeks long process)

People can bypass the other "securities" very easily, but I'm sure you know it already (mostly phone verified and IP check)

Please, revert the changes made to the Verified upgrade.
Don't let the greed take over forum quality. This is getting too far.

Please refrain from making accusations without knowing the underlying reasons behind this decision. I can assure you and everyone else on this forum that this decision is not financially motivated.

The decision is linked to upcoming changes that I am not authorized to disclose yet, but when the time comes, you'll be informed. Rest assured, that after this change this forum and our members will be much safer.

Also remember, this marketplace is FREE. You can advertise, and sell your stuff for free, you won't be charged for that. You are not obligated to use a TG system or give a percentage for every sale. You are allowed to use the payment method of your choice. There is even a free TG feature. As long is like this, there will be no room for words like greed and starving for money since such words are far from reality.

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

I don't like the change made to the Verified upgrade.
Not only it proves my point that you're starving for money, but requiring the Verified upgrade was also a deterrent against easy scams.
Now it's easier to scam :
- Create an account
- Age it (buy cheap things, ask for feedbacks, whatever)
- Buy the Epic Member upgrade
- Create a thread about boosting and top-ups
- ???
- Profit from account access and services money (=run away with your loot)
- Get banned, repeat. (~2 weeks long process)

You need to read EpicNPC messages more carefully. When I look at what you've been doing recently, it's mostly just negative talk about the forum getting worse, without adding anything helpful to the conversations.

Mike statement:

A new rule has been added in regards to the the bulk sale of aged accounts. We are now requiring sellers to have the 'Trusted' badge in order to post these types of sales.

Getting fifty good feedbacks in two weeks, as you mentioned, is not easy. Even if someone does it, our admins have to carefully check each one before giving out a "trusted badge." Also, to get a trusted badge, you need to be a member for at least a year. It's not so easy to get this badge. There have been cases where even verified and trusted members scammed others, but those were due to their personal issues, not planned scams.

Please, be polite and professional when you speak. It doesn't cost you anything and will make you look more credible than making these kinds of negative comments.


You keep using the same argument to attack us, which isn't helpful.

Damn admins being greedy for christmas

https://www.epicnpc.com/forums/smite-accounts.172/

It doesn't make it "more difficult for one seller to control a section", it only makes it more expensive.
I got 3 spots on this forum only because I'm the only one reading forum news. I didn't even receive a notification that a spot was available (good job). On other forums, it will only be a matter of time (few months?) until a seller will be able to get all the spots, just as it is possible right now.
If you wan't to prevent a single user from monopolizing a section, give it a cooldown or a maximum number of purchasable sticky threads per forum. Else it could be seen as a bad worded attempt to milk sellers.

The auto-bump change is just a Pay-to-win change, confirming my point.

I'm clearly profiting from this update as it's bringing me even more customers. Yet it's a very not welcomed change, and it's very unfair for less successful and/or new sellers.

OR

it really reflects how you care about the ones who make this forum alive

OR

People can bypass the other "securities" very easily, but I'm sure you know it already (mostly phone verified and IP check)

Please, revert the changes made to the Verified upgrade.
Don't let the greed take over forum quality. This is getting too far.

I need to be frank with you. This decision was made based on a majority vote and statistical analysis. While I respect your perspective, I would appreciate it if, instead of constantly complaining, you could provide well reasoned and logical solutions or suggestions.

Not only it proves my point that you're starving for money.

I'd like to remind you that this is neither a non-profit organization nor a government-funded site. Operating costs such as server maintenance, hosting, and services incur expenses. Do you believe these services are provided at no cost?

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

You didn't read carefully what I wrote, but unlike you, I don't blame you. I didn't talk about the Trusted badge, but the Epic Member badge. The Trusted badge is perfect where it is right now.

I don't attack you, I give my feedback about news to EpicNPC. You are nowhere in my recent messages.
I'm not the only one thinking that EpicNPC is hungry for money, and the recent updates only go in this direction. Sorry not sorry, I'm exposing facts and giving my opinion on them.

I completely understand and respect that this is an open forum where all comments and perspectives are valued. However, what I find concerning is the continuous criticism of the staff for implementing security improvements on the site, which are intended to enhance safety for everyone involved.

I'm only asking to revert a change. I'm really not asking for new things, as Mike doesn't care at all about anyone's opinion (and he thinks I'm trolling, so there is no hope for my suggestions, that were already ignored by Mike himself).
I've been referring to admins' greed only 2 times, in 2 different updates.

I previously addressed this in the above section, but I'll reiterate my response here since you seem to believe I am unfairly biased against you : I need to be frank with you. This decision was made based on a majority vote and statistical analysis.

I absolutely understand that EpicNPC needs money : to run the forum, and to pay the admins.
However, the recent changes are absolutely not needed for this. The forum already generates way enough for this.
Don't even try to ask me where I get my numbers. Just browse the forum yourself and count the sticky threads, the auto-bumpers, the purchasable items, the username styles. Check how many credits these sellers have in balance, ready to be spent. Make your own research to try having an idea.

Good that we are on the same page then.

While I understand @Angel 's comment, yours (@AZARAKAGAMI) is useless and totally off topic. In fact, I believe that somehow you got personally reached by my recent messages and took it personally, and your emotions took it over your reason. Your comment is worth being a direct message, not a comment

Let's be clear on something. You hold no significance in my thoughts or considerations. You are simply not important enough to warrant my attention. Furthermore, I find your comments lack any constructive value. They seem to be solely focused on criticizing the changes and accusing EpicNPC of greed, without contributing anything of substance. Your input, as it stands, is just a series of complaints without any meaningful contribution.

I have respect for you as both a contributor and a user of the EpicNPC platform, and I wish you a pleasant journey in your continued involvement with the community.

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

What I find concerning is the fact that you refuse to read and understand my comment about how this update is weakening buyers' security

Also it seems you're missing on a lot of my latest comments on the forum, which are overwhelming positive. I'm not going to teach you your job, I'll leave you with a progression margin. But that's also concerning.


It seems we're not. You have a lot in common with Mike, which is also concerning.

I have no respect for you, mainly based on your personality. You're just the kind of person with whom I don't match at all.
Nothing positive was added to anything since your first comment, I hope you're fine with that. Should have been a direct message.
I believe we're done here. If you want to continue feeling superior, just hop into my DMs and continue writting words as you're doing. I'll node my head as a sign of acknowledgment.

Sure pal, we are done here.

 

[EpicNPC]

To clarify, the idea for this change was brough up by a Global mod. It was discussed with all mods, voted on and my idea was not selected.

1. We don't need 3 different user group requirements. It's too complicated.

• Verified upgrade - required for boosting/leveling, top-up services
• Epic Member - required for beta accounts, keys and hacks/cheats
• Trusted upgrade - required for 'aged accounts'

Too many requirements with too many user groups.

Verified requirement was removed, so we can maintain just 2 sets and keep it simpler.

• Epic Member - required for beta accounts, keys and hacks/cheats, boosting/leveling, top-up service.
• Trusted upgrade - required for 'aged accounts'

2. #1 is irrelevant because that will all be changing in about month anyway. Those Epic Member requirements will be removed and will be obtainable for free. This change will be announced in a few weeks. There's no need to argue about something that will be changing.

 

[EpicNPC]

I believe it's a simple oversight, but can you make sure that this kind of very important information/explanations are included in the next updates notes ?

Members do not need to be explained every detail about how every decision is made. We will explain what is changing and what we are trying to fix by making the change as we did above.

People will always make thing up, not believe what is posted anyway and in many cases assume the worse. I have learned arguing or trying to explain myself to these types of people is a lost cause, so I will not do that. Sorry.

 

[seclime2b]

Hello, I received a message from the moderator, and I just want to clarify if I received it by mistake. I am selling expensive and organic Twitter accounts with original email. This means that the accounts have not been hacked. I am not selling bulk accounts, I am selling accounts with a large number of real followers. This is a unique product. Am I breaking the rules by continuing to sell this, or am I not breaking the rules?

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/exc...l-pages-5-200k-warranty.2250916/#post-8404994

 

[seclime2b]

There is a concept of "Stats"(account with 100k followers for examlple, 2019 year) and "bulk aged accounts"(0 followers, 2019 year)
Does this rule prohibit the sale of "stats" or the sale of bulk aged accounts? If this prohibits the sale of bulk aged accounts, then moderators should understand the difference, otherwise they will delete 99% of the forum

 

[EpicNPC]

Sorry about that. That was reversed and your thread was restored yesterday.

That rule should only be targeting large bulk sellers and your thread does not qualify.

 

[seclime2b]

Sorry about that. That was reversed and your thread was restored yesterday.

That rule should only be targeting large bulk sellers and your thread does not qualify.

Why has the moderator already deleted and restored my topic 3 times? I paid for the stick and this is not the first time this has happened! I specifically wrote here to make the moderators work more professionally, but that didn't solve the problem! They have mistakenly deleted my thread 3 times already! It's not the first time! Not for the second time! THE THIRD ONE!

 

[seclime2b]

What is?

 

[seclime2b]

@EpicNPC
@AZURAKAGAMI
Check it please and fix.

 

[seclime2b]

The site administrator has confirmed that my activity is legal. Then the main moderator confirmed that everything was OK. Who should then confirm that everything is OK so that other moderators do not delete my thread by mistake?

 

[seclime2b]

I'll duplicate it again. I don't sell bulk accounts. I sell organic stat accounts with followers and with OGE. There is not even 1 word about bulk sales in my thread.

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

I already apologized for the action and deleted the warning on the same day. What is the issue?

Edit - @seclime2b I forgot to restore your thread. My sincere apologies. It has been restored.

 

[seclime2b]

I already apologized for the action and deleted the warning on the same day. What is the issue?

Edit - @seclime2b I forgot to restore your thread. My sincere apologies. It has been restored.

Yes, you restored it a second time, but someone after you deleted it again. This has now been fixed. Thanks!

 

[seclime2b]

Who did it again?! It happens 3 or 4 times! And every time I write about it here!
I already wrote that I do not sell BULK accounts! I sell single organic legal accounts! NOT BULK!

 

[seclime2b]

@AZURAKAGAMI
@EpicNPC

please can u check mod name

 

[seclime2b]

What's happening? Is one of my competitors complaining about this thread and the moderator can't figure out what he's doing?
I added a warning this time for moderators if this happens 4 times already!!!

 

[seclime2b]

Sorry about that. That was reversed and your thread was restored yesterday.

That rule should only be targeting large bulk sellers and your thread does not qualify.

We've already talked about this
Someone just cleared the information from my thread. He restored the thread, he just cleaned it up.

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

We've already talked about this
Someone just cleared the information from my thread. He restored the thread, he just cleaned it up.

Would you mind sending me the thread URL?

 

[seclime2b]

Would you mind sending me the thread URL?

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/exc...nly-legal-real-pages-5-200k-warranty.2250916/

Check it please. I understand that this may be a misunderstanding, but who has been doing this 3-3 times already?