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Account was banned due to "cheating" GorgonGold

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Fencek

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#1
Dispute Against
GorgonGold
Information
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Purchase Date: 4/5/2019
Date the problem begain: 4/10/2019
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): EpicNPC E-mail
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] N/A
Your Instant Messenger ID: N/A

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/kaladim-tle-accounts-power-levelling-troub-fury-available.1437720/
Approximate value of property: $XXX.XX USD 100.00
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? N/A

What is the dispute about? I purchased an account that was powerleveled. He did it in one day and handed it over to me. I played the account about 5 days. I received an e-mail on 4/10/2019 from the company stating the account was banned for "Cheating". I don't use and never used and cheating software. I contacted the seller and he replied to me asking a copy of the e-mail. I copied the e-mail and posted it on our e-mail chat. He then asked me if I ever used any cheats and I said no. Afterward, he has failed to reply to my e-mail messages. I caught him logging in here this morning. So, I do know he has received my e-mail messages and still have not replied. I am only asking for my refund.

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Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): Admin can check my e-mail chat on this site with GorgonGold. Title of the chat is Banned.

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof: E-mail from Daybreak Games.

Screenshot_2019-04-11 (2 unread) - cnecro yahoo com - Yahoo Mail(1).png




Account Recalls
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Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale?
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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GorgonGold

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#4
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
Sorry for the late response

I have other accounts that were made before/alongside the one I sold to Fencek that are not banned. Other people I sold to are not banned. If this is sufficient I'll upload proof of other accounts, if not I'm not really sure what I could possibly provide.
 
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Fencek

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#5
Sorry for the late response

I have other accounts that were made before/alongside the one I sold to Fencek that are not banned. Other people I sold to are not banned. If this is sufficient I'll upload proof of other accounts, if not I'm not really sure what I could possibly provide.
I also have another account active that I personally leveled and it's not banned. You were the one that power leveled the character. I question the method, and your lack of timely response when i've asked you several times via e-mail chat.
 
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GorgonGold

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#7
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
As the email was changed and it is going to be played under fenceks IP I'd say he'd have to do it.

Perhaps something along the lines of say you allowed someone to access your account to powerlevel you in exchange for kronos(this is legal AFAIK). It's possible that the account was flagged for changing IP's and banned for that, though I've not had that happen with any others.
 
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Fencek

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#8
The original owner (GorgonGold) needs to e-mail support. DBG will see the different IPs and will ask personal questions about the account. Plus, the actual e-mail stated the issue was "cheating". I'm positive DBG does not actively search accounts for different IPs, but they have ban before if the account is caught (due to a support ticket). I am curious as to why the account was banned.
 
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GorgonGold

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#9
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
I have submitted a ticket
 
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GorgonGold

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#12
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
Nothing yet besides an automated response - Will be a fe wmore days as it's now easter weekend
 
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GorgonGold

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#13
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
"After reviewing your case it appears the account in question was permanently terminated a direct violation of Daybreak Games Terms of Service. We do not disclose our findings in these cases as 3rd parties could use this information to better circumvent detection, however we are confident the account was not banned in error. We always regret when this type of action is necessary, and we wish you the best of luck in all your future endeavors.

https://www.daybreakgames.com/terms-of-service "
 
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Fencek

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#14
Well, I am not surprised by the response. The onus is still on you though. I currently have 2 active characters with zero issues. So, I still think you did something during the power leveling process to acquire this perma ban. I am still seeking my refund.
 
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GorgonGold

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#15
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
I too have active characters with zero issues, including multiple characters sold before and after selling this character to you.

I'll wait until an admin sais what should happen in this case but at this stage it is a possibility that it was either of us or an issue with the account being transferred. I am reasonably sure that I would win a payment dispute through something like paypal and as such am not willing to issue a full refund. I would be willing to provide a replacement account made on a new ip,PC,email.
 
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Fencek

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#16
I am trying to figure out why you are assuming I would seek a Paypal dispute? I never in this whole thread threaten to make a Paypal dispute.

Regardless, I do not need another account atm. However, I am willing to accept Kronos as reimbursement. The current market is @ $10.00 per krono. I will not ask for 10, but 5. I think that is more than fair and I would be satisfied.

I await your response. I would like to be done with this.

Edit: Willing to take plat also. 5 krono or 60 plat on Kaladim server.
 
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EpicNPC CM

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#17
@GorgonGold In this case we would rule a 50/50 split because we will not have enough proof to determine who is at fault. You can either resolve this with fencek's method or you can just refund 50% of the order.
 
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Fencek

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#19
GorgonGold has already log in Saturday and still has not replied. I think we deserved a timely response since this has been going on for weeks.
 
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Fencek

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#21
GorgonGold was online Monday at 6:02 pm. Again, no response. It's pretty evident he will not agree to settlement.
 
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GorgonGold

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#23
Reason - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-was-banned-due-to-cheating-gorgongold.1446615/page-2
Sorry for the lack of replies

I'll agree to the split - preferably the 5 krono option. If Fencek can message me how he'd like them delivered will sort it out
 
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Fencek

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#25
Update: I e-mail GorgonGold Thursday 7:10 am. No response. E-mail again yesterday 8:36am. No response. He's been online at least two times since first e-mail.
 
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