Account retrieved

[Adeilia]

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Purchase Date:8/4/21
Date the problem begain:8/10/21
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Scrappy#4820 Sedexer#0217
Your Instant Messenger ID:CowffeeGweenTea#0001

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sold-to-cowffee.2014032/
Approximate value of property: $1900 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

I purchased the account from SolidTrader for 1900. I even paid the account owner for 500. Today I tried logging on and none of my information worked.

Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)

What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) Username, Password. Email. Receipts?
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?Less than a week
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

 

[SolidTrader]

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Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

This guy was a scammer since the beginning.

Scammed - Discord impostor | Page 2 | EpicNPC Marketplace

He definetely should get a ban @TopNep45 After you told him to 'it solved' , why did you retrieve the account back from him?

 

[Adeilia]

 

[Angel]

@TopNep45 notified

@SolidTrader please post a conversation image with a person from whom you take this account so can be later sold to @Adeilia

Who is Scrappy#4820? I am unable to find this member here

 

[Adeilia]

According to Sedexer, it's the actual owner of the account. I have been blocked by both of them. I honestly don't think there's need to be any investigation because I am dumb enough to send more money yesterday just so I could get the account back

 

[Adeilia]

same bitcoin address

 

[Angel]

According to Sedexer, it's the actual owner of the account. I have been blocked by both of them. I honestly don't think there's need to be any investigation because I am dumb enough to send more money yesterday just so I could get the account back

If i have right you purchased this account from SolidTrader and later you paid an extra 500$ to TopNep. @SolidTrader what did you do with the other 1900$?

 

[Adeilia]

If i have right you purchased this account from SolidTrader and later you paid an extra 500$ to TopNep. @SolidTrader what did you do with the other 1900$?

And I'm dumb enough to pay even more top @TopNep45 . Trader claims that he donated the money. I was fine about it only because he guaranteed me that the account wouldn't be retrieved if it did, he would return the money. And since he claims that he donated the money he is not willing to pay me back the money.

 

[Angel]

And I'm dumb enough to pay even more top @TopNep45 . Trader claims that he donated the money. I was fine about it only because he guaranteed me that the account wouldn't be retrieved if it did, he would return the money. And since he claims that he donated the money he is not willing to pay me back the money.

@SolidTrader was the one who sold you the account and not TopNep so he is fully responsible for what he sells. He can't donate something that does not belong to him.
@SolidTrader please refund 1900$ or you will be banned.
Trade with caution was added until this has been resolved

 

[Adeilia]

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Sorry for the late response.

Here are the screenshots where the original owner 'Sedexer' gave the followed account:

The original owner was TopNep45 since the beginning.

Also, here are my conservation with Adelia for the 2k. I was deposit it for the future problems. However,Adelia kindly request from me to donating it since i got no own to hold it. I was asked where we should donate it and letting him to decide. At the end, we decided it to donate it with our names on 'Tema' company.

Here are the receipts full screenshots:

Tema website: Online Bağış | TEMA

Verified donate number (you can call them 7/24): 54587

The problem is that Sedexer (Topnep45) is accepted that he got 500$ from Adeilia from there:

Then after 2 days, they charge the account back. I now sended Mihoyo's a ticket about the account should getting ban because of this following scamming things. I am helping Adelia to getting it back or maybe even a ban for protect the future buyers becasue this guy is a professional scammer. He also doesnt give an answer from now on.

Let me know if you have any other questions @Angel and please confirm if my arguments are true @Adeilia

 

[Adeilia]

Yep, I was okay with the money being donated because I was told by @SolidTrader that he guarantees that the account won't be recovered. Even if it did, he'll give my money back. Also he said to me he will make sure I will get every receipt BEFORE buying that account. After I confronted him, he never admitted the responsibility until today. But he's not the one who recovered the account. So he's not the one who scammed my account. But my assurance that the account won't be retrieved or I get my money back is gone.

 

[Angel]

My decision is going to remain, @SolidTrader you can agree with Adeilia on how you will return the money, it will be a partial monthly payment or at once.

Also something else, @SolidTrader how can you donate this money if you were just a mediator in this trade, account were not yours so why did you not send money to the original owner?

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

This is the @Adeilia's willing from me. If you are gonna ban me after all of this, TopNep45 will keeping scamming people. I donated it because the money was actually not mine, as i said it.

The original owner was TopNep45 and he gets away even he admitted it that he is the only one who receiving the 500$ for the account.

 

[Angel]

Please do not avoid my question and answer why did you not send money to original owner if you was just mediator. Account was not yours

 

[SolidTrader]

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Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Please do not avoid my question and answer why did you not send money to original owner if you was just mediator. Account was not yours

I am not avoiding any of your questions sir. You should investigate the problem that is actually caused by the real scammer, who is getting all of the money and gets run away with at least 2,5k +. He scammed the silver guy with fake discord impostor and now the Adeilia. I was sure that he was a scammer and i decided to hold the money with Adeilia because the original owner was unknown. We thought that we should keep it until the real original owner appeared, which didint happened. I then taking suggestion from Adeilia and he offered me to donate the money to a company we decided because it was uncertain who were the real owner. (I offered him to refund it back but he decided to donate it).

We was all happy with the result until TopNep45 decided to scam Adeilia too. Eventually , we are trying to get it back or at least gets him banned for now. Thats how i am helping to him. The donating thing was not my suggestion, it is from him. I told him to refund his 2000$ before and he simply rejected it for keeping account. Then the account gots recalled by the scammer @TopNep45

 

[Adeilia]

I'm willing to give @SolidTraderx1 time to recover my account. If the account is recovered, then he does not have to pay anything because I would get what I paid for. TopNep45 took my money and confirmed through the thread. Now he recovered the account. So TopNep45 basically took the account and the money. So for now, TopNep is the scammer who should get banned

 

[Angel]

Here is clear that Adeilia is not willing to give up from his money.
@SolidTrader you should refund the payment in the moment you saw that something is going on. There was clear who is the owner of these 1900$. I'll give you 10 days to return the account or money. In the opposite you will be banned

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Here is clear that Adeilia is not willing to give up from his money.
@SolidTrader you should refund the payment in the moment you saw that something is going on. There was clear who is the owner of these 1900$. I'll give you 10 days to return the account or money. In the opposite you will be banned

What about the real scammer? Wouldnt he get banned?

 

[Angel]

What about the real scammer? Wouldnt he get banned?

Yes if he fail to respond he will be banned

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Yes if he fail to respond he will be banned

Alright, at least the other ones would not hurting. I did what Adeilia told to me.

You may think like no one would donate 2000$ in Turkey but eventually, the country is literally on fire and i really did it for me, my gf and Tommy (Adelia)

the news about the fire you could find on google:

I sended the receipts to him after the donation , which is checkable with the code. But after the retrieve of the account, he is regretting about donating the money which is understandable on his side. The retriever was actually the original owner, all i was doing is what Adelia told to me. But still, If it is still a ban cause for me (i think it shouldnt be since he is the only one who is told me for donation), it is okay. Even if i got banned, please make sure to also ban TopNep45 as he would hurt someone on forum. And again, if i got banned, i will trying to help Adeilia at least to getting his account back or made it to get banned because i belive that i am innocent in this trade. Hope i express myself. Thank you.

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

I also contact with the donation page if it is possible to refund the donation so i could send full amount of Adeilia, but i got rejected (sadly).

 

[michealis12]

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[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Hi Adeilia, and all, I'm the real owner of the Genshin Account UID 611669504, I've retrieve the account with Mihoyo today as well. My friend helped me to find thread and yet I found it here. After I got scammed my friend send me screenshot that the account name became Sedexer. There is also screenshot of Scrappy and my Conversation, where he wants to buy my account. He call himself anna when he trying to buy with me as well.

As i understand , did you got scammed by Sedexer?

 

[michealis12]

As i understand , did you got scammed by Sedexer?

People who come and trade with me is Scrappy#4820 , after got scammed account name changed to Sedexer.

 

[SolidTrader]

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Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

@Angel Could you check this please? It looks like Sedexer(TopNep45) is selling a stolen account.

People who come and trade with me is Scrappy#4820 , after got scammed account name changed to Sedexer.

Thats Sedexer , the TopNep45 discord addresses

 

[Adeilia]

People who come and trade with me is Scrappy#4820 , after got scammed account name changed to Sedexer.

Did you get hacked?

 

[michealis12]

Did you get hacked?

I was selling my account, cause I'm quitting genshin.

 

[Adeilia]

I was selling my account, cause I'm quitting genshin.

So did Scrappy buy it from you? And he was "reselling" it? I'm a bit confused

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

I was selling my account, cause I'm quitting genshin.

In which platform did you selling? Do you have any link for the thread?

 

[Adeilia]

@Angel, Me and @SolidTrader made an agreement that he will pay me back. So right now I would like @TopNep45 to be banned. Thank you.

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

@Angel, Me and @SolidTrader made an agreement that he will pay me back. So right now I would like @TopNep45 to be banned. Thank you.

Please also confirm that you got the access of the account now.

 

[Adeilia]

I do not have access yet. So I can't confirm that

 

[Angel]

Please also confirm that you got the access of the account now.

Can you explain how did you get access to the account when the original owner appears and claim that the account is in his hands?

 

[SolidTrader]

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Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Can you explain how did you get access to the account when the original owner appears and claim that the account is in his hands?

I dont have the account. The original owner, me and Adeilia talked on discord for a solution. Adeilia and the original owner accepted to do a trade.

 

[Angel]

@Adeilia if you are going to purchase this account my advice is to use a TG service this time.

@SolidTrader this will not release you from the obligation to return what you owe to Adeilia. Not matter what you will not be able to keep this money

 

[Adeilia]

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From what I know, the original owner is a Twitch Streamer and I have her facebook profile and stream link. So I should be fine this time

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

@Adeilia if you are going to purchase this account my advice is to use a TG service this time.

@SolidTrader this will not release you from the obligation to return what you owe to Adeilia. Not matter what you will not be able to keep this money

We already accepted on a solution with him, as he confirmed too. I am not holding anything from now on.

 

[Angel]

@TopNep45 ban in 24 hrs if no response

 

[Angel]

TopNep45 has been banned

Scammer info

[email protected]
[email protected]
Sedexer #0217

This is going to remain open until @SolidTrader refund the payment

Deadline 31. August

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

TopNep45 has been banned

Scammer info

[email protected]
[email protected]
Sedexer #0217

This is going to remain open until @SolidTrader refund the payment

Deadline 31. August

We have already accepted for a solution with Adeilia. @Adeilia

 

[Angel]

We have already accepted for a solution with Adeilia. @Adeilia

@Adeilia informed me that he wants his money back, i am not sure what solution you are talking about

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

@Adeilia informed me that he wants his money back, i am not sure what solution you are talking about

I reported you to EpicNpc like i do to Alice. before. You are simply acting with your 'NONSENSE' attidute with zero proof. I sended you enough proof about that we donate the money together but even with that, i was accepted to gave the money back Adeilia and even trying to helping him to reach the original owner to the account. You told him that 'it is imposible that a turkish dude would donate that amount of money' which is SUPER RACIST and i proved you that it is wrong already.

It is actually unbelieveable that Epicnpc admins are that racist. And now , even he admitted that he is trusting on me, you are decided to ban me for nonsense and closing the thread. @EpicNPC CM

Please check your admins viability. This is the first time i saw an admin is that racist and banning people with just his believing, even there are Zero Evidence. This forum doesn't deserve such people like that. You definetely should investigate what is gonna happen.

 

[Angel]

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I reported you to EpicNpc like i do to Alice. before. You are simply acting with your 'NONSENSE' attidute with zero proof. I sended you enough proof about that we donate the money together but even with that, i was accepted to gave the money back Adeilia and even trying to helping him to reach the original owner to the account. You told him that 'it is imposible that a turkish dude would donate that amount of money' which is SUPER RACIST and i proved you that it is wrong already.

It is actually unbelieveable that Epicnpc admins are that racist. And now , even he admitted that he is trusting on me, you are decided to ban me for nonsense and closing the thread. @EpicNPC CM

Please check your admins viability. This is the first time i saw an admin is that racist and banning people with just his believing, even there are Zero Evidence. This forum doesn't deserve such people like that. You definetely should investigate what is gonna happen.

Okay

@EpicNPC

Short summary

@SolidTrader acted as MM in service where he should not be allowed here where he gets 1900$ in BTC. After the victim was scammed instead to refund the money he gives a donation somewhere else and now the victim asking for his money back.

My decision was that he was responsible for what he sells, in this case, mediate, and to refund the payment until 31. August or he will be banned. He does not agree with my decision.

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Edit... about his statement above i did not tell TURKISH DUDE it was stated that was hard to believe that someone in Turkey, where i have a lot of friends and i know how life is (nearly the same as in my country where is rare that someone who earns with selling here will just go and gift this what they earn) i am sorry i do not believe that you gifted anything and even if you did it was not your money so must be refunded.

So your statement that i am racist is nonsense, everyone can confirm that i am baning people for that but when is about scammers yes i am allergic to them. So instead to try to blame on me here i will advise you to try to return the money back as we do not ask for anything else.

 

[SolidTrader]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Racist attidute, closing the threads so people cannot giving him an arguments.

(1) Account retrieved | Page 2 | EpicNPC Marketplace

He is insulting the third world country people with his own attidute.

https://imgur.com/CAfLyUU

https://imgur.com/RaLQM09

https://imgur.com/qScNvtn

An Admin shouldn't say 'I have no time for arguing with you.'

An Admin shoudln't say 'A Turkish people would not donate such amount like that'

An Admin shouldn't act by his own if there are ZERO evidence. It is unbelieveable and total frustration for epicnpc community. Sad.

 

[Angel]

There is a difference between Admins and SMods, i am not Admin and Admin will check this dispute tomorrow. I closed this thread because arguing will not take us anywhere and Admin will not read it as their time is precious.

I will repeat the statement how life is hard somewhere is not racist and discrimination and my belief of did you donate this money or not is irrelevant here because a victim is asking his money back.

I will ask you to calm down and wait on Admin response

Closing this until further review

 

[Angel]

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[EpicNPC]

Sedexer#0217 = TopNep45
CowffeeGweenTea#0001 = Adeilia
Scrappy#4820 claims to be real owner of the account (unconfirmed)
SolidTrader claims TopNep45 is the original owner (unconfirmed)

Adeilia buys account from SolidTrader $1900
Adeilia pays $500 to TopNep45 - reason unknown
account recalled

The donation is completely irrelevant to this dispute. That is separate and not related to this dispute. Even if you donated all the money that has absolutely no affect on the decision here. The donation will be ignored.

After reviewing the evidence I agree with Angle. 100% refund must be issued unless Adeilia and SolidTrade can fully resolve it on their own. If not, then we'll stick with the full refund.

SolidTrader's upgrade has been removed until this dispute is resolved.

For the "rasist" comments issue, I saw none here and none in the post that was reported. If I missed it please screenshot it and highlight the offensive part.

 

[bailey2020]

Scrappy is not the owner of the account, I can 100% confirm that. He is Ibuki, also known as the scammer @Shoumiko and does not own this account

 

[SolidTrader]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-retrieved.2020539

Sedexer#0217 = TopNep45
CowffeeGweenTea#0001 = Adeilia
Scrappy#4820 claims to be real owner of the account (unconfirmed)
SolidTrader claims TopNep45 is the original owner (unconfirmed)

Adeilia buys account from SolidTrader $1900
Adeilia pays $500 to TopNep45 - reason unknown
account recalled

The donation is completely irrelevant to this dispute. That is separate and not related to this dispute. Even if you donated all the money that has absolutely no affect on the decision here. The donation will be ignored.

After reviewing the evidence I agree with Angle. 100% refund must be issued unless Adeilia and SolidTrade can fully resolve it on their own. If not, then we'll stick with the full refund.

SolidTrader's upgrade has been removed until this dispute is resolved.

For the "rasist" comments issue, I saw none here and none in the post that was reported. If I missed it please screenshot it and highlight the offensive part.

First off, thank you very much for taking a look. The Racist comments from Angel is between Adeilia. and Angel. So if you checked Angel or Adeilia message box on EPICNPC, you can see that his words about Turks. I am currently waiting for a screenshot from @Adeilia but if you ask to him OR simply checked messagebox between this users, you will see that messages. Adelia can also confirmed about it. That is why i am disapointed with Angel. He represents the epicnpc community and actuallyi trying to hide what actually happened and closing the thread to prevent me The conservation was actually on epicnpc, not on discord. That is why i am reporting it on epicnpc. An admin cannot insult any other country.

- A conservation between me and Adeilia. He is also confirming the Angels messages. Even Angel admit it himself on the previous topic that he said that racist words. This is why i decided to report him TO EPICNPC instead of discord, because the conservation was actually on epicnpc. You should definetely investigate the conservation between them. As i believe, Angel is super racist and i am not holding it back.

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For the account ownership, i was believed TopNep45 was the original owner (because he told me that he was the original owner) but recently, we discovered that he scammed a twitch streamer account named /michealis

her twitch channel - Twitch

She claims that 'Scrappy' is the one who scammed the account. The original owner is @michealis12 from forum.

Scrappy and TopNep45 are the same people as we believed with Adeilia. He is also the one who scammed Silverhunt for 2k with using of that scammed genshin account and with a fake discord which has my name. (As i said, i never talked with silver)

Adeilia wanted from me to donate my money when he has access to the account and we donated together that money to TEMA company with our names. After short time, the original owner michealis recalled her own account. She doesnt know whats going on until her friend saw that thread. Then we accepted on a solution with Adelia. I currently helping him to getting his money back. We did a refund request from bank and 1000$ is retrieved for now.

This is what happened until for now. Let me know if you have any other proof, and please take a look for angel and adelia conservation on the forum.