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account 3rd party bind by original seller

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LeonaLuna

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ghono23
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DISPUTE Information
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Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):

original owner link - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/nikke-284-sync-level-whale-account-257k-cp-sea.2590196/

Approximate value of item/service: 600-1000 USD

Date the problem began: 8-31-23

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Describe the problem:

This account i had inquired about was put and advised price of 650$. And then sold at 400$ to me from seller ghono23 listing as original owner.
I resold this account after a few days listing as not original owner to buyer @christiger94 yesterday 8-30-23.
Discussing with the MM of transaction, it was recommended to submit a dispute.

For the account during possession there was no distruptions or issues or tampering of the account from when I purchased to sold.
At this time 8-31-23 Christiger94 is experiencing issues with this account and had been kicked out a few times.
I discussed with the original owner ghono23 and it was a purchase he had done from facebook by someone named kura and a MM from facebook.
The account is linked to infinite, gmail, facebook and twitter.
ghono23 does not have any access to the twitter account.
ghono23 said to me he was not aware a 3rd party could access the account nor that anyone else can log into it as infinite login and gmail are the main access and unchangable.
He advised to reach customer support to the creators to unbind the account from 3rd party access may be the resolution.
The unchangable acceess via infinite login linked to the gmail can not be changed, however 3rd party binds can still log into the account.
The issue is assumed that the 3rd party access of twitter of the twitter owner logging into the account as of 8-31-23.

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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-3rd-party-bind-by-original-seller.2602349/
EpicNPC does NOT investigate disputes unless Trade Guardian was used. Instead we will conduct a review of the accused member's account. Please give the user a negative feedback instead.

If Trade Guardian was used, please go to the Trade Guardian > History or Active Transaction page and click the "Report" button. Someone will then join the chat and investigate your claim.


DISPUTE Information
######################
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):

original owner link - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/nikke-284-sync-level-whale-account-257k-cp-sea.2590196/

Approximate value of item/service: 600-1000 USD

Date the problem began: 8-31-23

Show proof of payment (screenshot):



Describe the problem:

This account i had inquired about was put and advised price of 650$. And then sold at 400$ to me from seller ghono23 listing as original owner.
I resold this account after a few days listing as not original owner to buyer @christiger94 yesterday 8-30-23.
Discussing with the MM of transaction, it was recommended to submit a dispute.

For the account during possession there was no distruptions or issues or tampering of the account from when I purchased to sold.
At this time 8-31-23 Christiger94 is experiencing issues with this account and had been kicked out a few times.
I discussed with the original owner ghono23 and it was a purchase he had done from facebook by someone named kura and a MM from facebook.
The account is linked to infinite, gmail, facebook and twitter.
ghono23 does not have any access to the twitter account.
ghono23 said to me he was not aware a 3rd party could access the account nor that anyone else can log into it as infinite login and gmail are the main access and unchangable.
He advised to reach customer support to the creators to unbind the account from 3rd party access may be the resolution.
The unchangable acceess via infinite login linked to the gmail can not be changed, however 3rd party binds can still log into the account.
The issue is assumed that the 3rd party access of twitter of the twitter owner logging into the account as of 8-31-23.

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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
Hello what yall want me to do?
 
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Hello what yall want me to do?
Are you able to contact Kura from facebook you mentioned to provide the twitter account / facebook account or additional details for the 3rd party bind? Thank you for helping us resolve this.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-3rd-party-bind-by-original-seller.2602349/
Are you able to contact Kura from facebook you mentioned to provide the twitter account / facebook account or additional details for the 3rd party bind? Thank you for helping us resolve th
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-3rd-party-bind-by-original-seller.2602349/
i will send back the money
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-3rd-party-bind-by-original-seller.2602349/
i will send back the money
why did you block me on discord?
 
why did you block me on discord?
I usually do everything on epic as noted my posts when i sell and need to keep this here so everyone can be involved on the details, sorry. I think it became an issue here. We need to current buyer to return the account to you first.
 
He might be back at around 11am and we can see what he would like to do as well to move forward.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-3rd-party-bind-by-original-seller.2602349/
He might be back at around 11am and we can see what he would like to do as well to move forward.
Okay please let them show up I would like to ask some things
 
@christiger Hey, when you have some time, can you review this thread and respond here for everyone's awareness? Thanks
 
Hello everybody, I am the current buyer of said account. As Leona has said, I've experienced multiple instances of being kicked off the game due to someone else logging in and I do believe in Leona's theory that it is indeed the Twitter user; as when I've logged back in after the first occurrence of being kicked off the IGN was changed to "Faka", the "Username of the account was changed to "Fakita", and it just so happens that the Twitter bind is under the name "Fakita2023".
 
Thank you everyone for really working together on this, as mentioned ghono23 told me he wasn't aware of additional 3rd party binding and had been very helpful throughout this process.

From my time with the Account it was Welly as the name, it was never touched and I assume during ghono23 time with the account it wasn't touched as well as he had always referred to as welly and was supportive.

We will wait for what he would like to discuss here as well.

Again everyone collaborating here is really appreciated.
 
I've just gotten home from work, and when I've logged in and reviewed the account, it's all completely different from last night. All the gems has been used, the account now has 2B (New character), whoever is logging in has used an abundance of the resources that was available and said person has also been making in game purchases in the cash shop. Person has also been doing all the dailies and everything there is to actually do on the game. This is actually really ridiculous and saddening, I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that there is someone else playing the account and doing everything, or the fact that I can't do anything at all and keep getting kicked off.
 
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