<span style="color: #FFCC00"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Ok, Now maybe its just me but recently I have seen a tonne of issues arise surrounding recalls of world of wacraft accounts. I am not talking about clear scammer's who recall and never post on these forums again, I am talking about seemingly legit traders who are NOT original owners of accounts, having formed a legit trade with a legit second party, only to have the account recalled by the OO and leave BOTH parties unhappy.
Understandably, the victim of the account recall is looking for someone to blame and wants to be compensated for his loss. Now, the confusion is this, although the trade was legit and the seller was not the one who recalled the account, what do we do? Who do we blame? Well, the original owner of the account is the only one who can recall it, so clearly the blame lies there.
Who is going to compensate me? I bought the account off seller X and its his responsibility to compensate me!! Well, maybe morally yes it is, but legally is it? What had you agreed when you completed the deal?
The answer to that last question i'm afraid is why so many stumnbling blocks have been hit recently, the answer is, you agreed on <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">nothing</span></span>. Which is why there is dispute after dispute after dispute which is dragging on. You NEED to now be thoroughly clear during transactions as to what you are both agreeing on, not just to protect yourselves, but to protect the community and sanity in general. So am I proposing this, we as a community draw up a standard trading/buying/selling contract that every transaction can refer to in the event of it being compromised. Something that is down in black and white for all to see that cannot be argued with. Failure to result in adherence to the contract will possibly result in termination of membership or something along those lines. Obviously, this has to be agreed upon by the powers that be, perhaps they won't like the idea at all, perhaps something has been put in place like this which I have completely missed?
For me, this is the only viable method we can use to stop these continuous disputes, you cannot argue with something you in text agreed to when forming the transaction.
Now, there are a million different attributes this contract could contain, I am simply going to form up a basic one which contains the crucial details of most transactions. I would like the input of both the regular members and admins on this.
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Contract</span></span></span></span>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">Forum Name:</span> </span> FiNeRaIn
<span style="color: #FF0000">Instant messaging contact service: AIM:</span> theonlytonyrae
<span style="color: #FF0000">Email:</span> [email protected]
<span style="color: #FF0000">Nature Of transaction:</span> world of warcraft account trade
<span style="color: #FF0000">Forum name of 2nd party:</span> BigBadwolf
<span style="color: #FF0000">Contact details:</span> [email protected] aim: thebigbadwolf
<span style="color: #FF0000">Details/description of transaction:</span>
I traded a 70 alliance night elf hunter for a 70 undead rogue.
All information, sqa/email/last name/account name and passwords were exchanged between the parties.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Are you the original owner of the account traded:</span> No I am not.
<span style="color: #FF0000">In the event of the account being recalled by the original owner, what is the agreement reached between both parties:</span>
If the account is recalled, I hereby state that I will pay thebigbadwofl $75 USD as compensation, to be paid within 14 days of him notifying me of the account being recalled. </span>
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Have you Screen shotted this contract:
Have you received a screen shotted contract from your client:</span></span>
<span style="color: #FFff00"><span style="color: #FFCC66"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Ok, now that is patchy and needs tweaking. The screen shotted contract from the client must contain the aim conversation, clearly showing his name and possibly an email home page also. That way there is no doubt it is forged. The main point of this whole post and contract is so that we don't get any more scenario's of disputes when a 3rd party recalls an account. If the scenario is agreed on before the accounts exchange hands and future compensation is agreed upon, there will be no confusion and it will be clear to the community who is NOT honoring their contracts and agreements.
I really can't see any flaws with this. The contract template needs work and perhaps someone with a little more experience in business contracts could pick it a bit.
Anyway, would do you guys think?</span></span></span>
Understandably, the victim of the account recall is looking for someone to blame and wants to be compensated for his loss. Now, the confusion is this, although the trade was legit and the seller was not the one who recalled the account, what do we do? Who do we blame? Well, the original owner of the account is the only one who can recall it, so clearly the blame lies there.
Who is going to compensate me? I bought the account off seller X and its his responsibility to compensate me!! Well, maybe morally yes it is, but legally is it? What had you agreed when you completed the deal?
The answer to that last question i'm afraid is why so many stumnbling blocks have been hit recently, the answer is, you agreed on <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">nothing</span></span>. Which is why there is dispute after dispute after dispute which is dragging on. You NEED to now be thoroughly clear during transactions as to what you are both agreeing on, not just to protect yourselves, but to protect the community and sanity in general. So am I proposing this, we as a community draw up a standard trading/buying/selling contract that every transaction can refer to in the event of it being compromised. Something that is down in black and white for all to see that cannot be argued with. Failure to result in adherence to the contract will possibly result in termination of membership or something along those lines. Obviously, this has to be agreed upon by the powers that be, perhaps they won't like the idea at all, perhaps something has been put in place like this which I have completely missed?
For me, this is the only viable method we can use to stop these continuous disputes, you cannot argue with something you in text agreed to when forming the transaction.
Now, there are a million different attributes this contract could contain, I am simply going to form up a basic one which contains the crucial details of most transactions. I would like the input of both the regular members and admins on this.
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<span style="color: #FF0000">
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Contract</span></span></span></span>
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="color: #FF0000">Forum Name:</span> </span> FiNeRaIn
<span style="color: #FF0000">Instant messaging contact service: AIM:</span> theonlytonyrae
<span style="color: #FF0000">Email:</span> [email protected]
<span style="color: #FF0000">Nature Of transaction:</span> world of warcraft account trade
<span style="color: #FF0000">Forum name of 2nd party:</span> BigBadwolf
<span style="color: #FF0000">Contact details:</span> [email protected] aim: thebigbadwolf
<span style="color: #FF0000">Details/description of transaction:</span>
I traded a 70 alliance night elf hunter for a 70 undead rogue.
All information, sqa/email/last name/account name and passwords were exchanged between the parties.
<span style="color: #FF0000">Are you the original owner of the account traded:</span> No I am not.
<span style="color: #FF0000">In the event of the account being recalled by the original owner, what is the agreement reached between both parties:</span>
If the account is recalled, I hereby state that I will pay thebigbadwofl $75 USD as compensation, to be paid within 14 days of him notifying me of the account being recalled. </span>
<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-size: 11pt">
Have you Screen shotted this contract:
Have you received a screen shotted contract from your client:</span></span>
<span style="color: #FFff00"><span style="color: #FFCC66"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Ok, now that is patchy and needs tweaking. The screen shotted contract from the client must contain the aim conversation, clearly showing his name and possibly an email home page also. That way there is no doubt it is forged. The main point of this whole post and contract is so that we don't get any more scenario's of disputes when a 3rd party recalls an account. If the scenario is agreed on before the accounts exchange hands and future compensation is agreed upon, there will be no confusion and it will be clear to the community who is NOT honoring their contracts and agreements.
I really can't see any flaws with this. The contract template needs work and perhaps someone with a little more experience in business contracts could pick it a bit.
Anyway, would do you guys think?</span></span></span>
