Thread Bump Manager System Added!

[EpicNPC]

A new system is now available that will allow members to better auto-bump their threads from one location.
https://www.epicnpc.com/thread-bump-manager/

This has been added to the "Advertising" menu. It does not use credits.

Members can purchase a certain amount of threads for various lengths of time which will then all auto-bump every 6 hours. Currently our shop only allowed 1 thread to be bumped for 10 or 30 days, the new system allows for up to 100 threads and up to 60 days.

Once a bump plan has been purchased, members can add threads to their bump list either from the manager page I linked above or directly from their threads by clicking the "add to bump list" button.

The shop auto-bump item has been discontinued. For those members that have it will remain until it expires.

 

[ZZreroll.com]

Please try to have a similar "manager" or some alternative that can manage or pay things in one shot for sticky & banner ads as well.

 

[EpicNPC]

Both sticky and banner ads are more difficult to setup this way because it depends on what other members do. Someone's sticky thread could be outbid or it's too early to renew. For banner ads someone else might have purchased days ahead and there's no spots left.

We do have plans to update the sticky system in the future to improve the payment system, but there's no ETA.

We did update the banner ads system to make purchasing simpler a few months ago and we'll continue to make updates. We'll take a look to see if we can make renewing better.

 

[SMMFLAREcom]

Great, love to see it. Should make it a little easier managing threads.

Quick question, did you consider making it cheaper for bulk options (or bonus threads/time), such as how the pricing of credits is currently?
This way, people would be buying bulk packages (100 threads) at a time rather than 5. Just a thought!

 

[EpicNPC]

We're considering adding that in the future, but I have no ETA when that will be added. Sorry.

 

[revios]

We're considering adding that in the future, but I have no ETA when that will be added. Sorry.

hi. i need I will ask a question. now i bought 5 threads and 30 days. Will I be able to use 1 message for 5 months? or will it be disabled after 30 days, whether it's 1 thread or 5 threads?

 

[EpicNPC]

The system is based on a plan structure, not individual threads so it doesn't matter how many threads you actually use. If you buy 5 threads for 30 days. but only use 1 or 2 threads, the plan will still expire after 30 days for all 5.

 

[spartanservice]

Old Bump system was good.
I have only 1 thread in YouTube section.
And present Auto bump is very costly 30$ for 30 days

 

[The Integrity]

Yes, I'm not a fan of this new system either.

5 threads being the minimum is not the best. There should be options for 1 and 3 threads too.
Or better yet, ditch the plan system entirely and allow any amount of threads to be selected. Even if you have eg. 7 threads you still end up wasting 3 spots.

Only good thing about the new system is that people with many threads can manage them easily. But for most people it's a downgrade.

 

[spartanservice]

Yes, I'm not a fan of this new system either.

5 threads being the minimum is not the best. There should be options for 1 and 3 threads too.
Or better yet, ditch the plan system entirely and allow any amount of threads to be selected. Even if you have eg. 7 threads you still end up wasting 3 spots.

Only good thing about the new system is that people with many threads can manage them easily. But for most people it's a downgrade.

Yes, Thanks

 

[EpicNPC]

Old Bump system was good.
I have only 1 thread in YouTube section.
And present Auto bump is very costly 30$ for 30 days

The minimum purchase was setup to be $5. 5 threads for 5 days.

If we offered 1 thread the bottom cost would be $1 and depending what payment option is uses, the fees to process the payment could be over 50%.

I added a 2 thread option for people who don't need as many threads, so hopefully that will solve the problem.

 

[The Integrity]

The minimum purchase was setup to be $5. 5 threads for 5 days.

If we offered 1 thread the bottom cost would be $1 and depending what payment option is uses, the fees to process the payment could be over 50%.

I added a 2 thread option for people who don't need as many threads, so hopefully that will solve the problem.

Maybe add credits as one of the payment methods? And for less than 5 threads it could be the only available option.

 

[spartanservice]

Maybe add credits as one of the payment methods? And for less than 5 threads it could be the only available option.

Yes

 

[MyOwn]

OLD system was better

 

[spartanservice]

OLD system was better

Yes

 

[MyOwn]

I was using credit to immediately buying bump as soon as i have my threads active. Now i am not thinking about it, there are 2 and 5 there is no 3 threads, aslo credit system should be supported on this. I like to add max credit limit allowed then use it as i need it.

 

[EpicNPC]

This new system is more flexible than the bump items were. Once you have an active plan, you can add or remove threads to your bump list, so you can switch out threads for new threads. Previously the auto-bump item was locked to one thread.

In terms of ease and effort required to set it up, it's about the same as before.

Auto-bump items from shop:
- purchase credits
- purchase the auto-bump items for their thread

New Bump Plan system:
- purchase plan
- add threads to bump list

It's not any more or less work and still requires 2 steps to setup.

 

[The Integrity]

This new system is more flexible than the bump items were. Once you have an active plan, you can add or remove threads to your bump list, so you can switch out threads for new threads. Previously the auto-bump item was locked to one thread.

In terms of ease and effort required to set it up, it's about the same as before.

- With credits you'd be able to buy any number of threads needed and are not limited to predefined amounts.
- With credits you could buy a large pack once and spend it slowly over a longer period. With the new system you have to make purchases each time.
- By buying a large pack you also get a decent 40% discount, regardless of amount of threads you'll be bumping. No discounts with the new system, even with large amounts of threads.

What happens if you eg. have a 5 thread plan and want to add 2 more threads? You either buy another 5 thread plan (if it's even an option), wasting 3 spots OR you buy a 10 thread plan that overrides your current one and you lose days in addition to wasting 3 spots.


The new system is more organized but it's definitely not more flexible than the old one. And I'd rather have the flexibility.


A solution to all of the above would be to allow the user to specify the number of threads needed AND to make credits an available payment method. To avoid loses on fees, the other purchase options could only be available for 5+.

 

[spartanservice]

- With credits you'd be able to buy any number of threads needed and are not limited to predefined amounts.
- With credits you could buy a large pack once and spend it slowly over a longer period. With the new system you have to make purchases each time.
- By buying a large pack you also get a decent 40% discount, regardless of amount of threads you'll be bumping. No discounts with the new system, even with large amounts of threads.

What happens if you eg. have a 5 thread plan and want to add 2 more threads? You either buy another 5 thread plan (if it's even an option), wasting 3 spots OR you buy a 10 thread plan that overrides your current one and you lose days in addition to wasting 3 spots.


The new system is more organized but it's definitely not more flexible than the old one. And I'd rather have the flexibility.


A solution to all of the above would be to allow the user to specify the number of threads needed AND to make credits an available payment method. To avoid loses on fees, the other purchase options could only be available for 5+.

True

 

[MyOwn]

- With credits you'd be able to buy any number of threads needed and are not limited to predefined amounts.
- With credits you could buy a large pack once and spend it slowly over a longer period. With the new system you have to make purchases each time.
- By buying a large pack you also get a decent 40% discount, regardless of amount of threads you'll be bumping. No discounts with the new system, even with large amounts of threads.

What happens if you eg. have a 5 thread plan and want to add 2 more threads? You either buy another 5 thread plan (if it's even an option), wasting 3 spots OR you buy a 10 thread plan that overrides your current one and you lose days in addition to wasting 3 spots.


The new system is more organized but it's definitely not more flexible than the old one. And I'd rather have the flexibility.


A solution to all of the above would be to allow the user to specify the number of threads needed AND to make credits an available payment method. To avoid loses on fees, the other purchase options could only be available for 5+.

AGREED

 

[EpicNPC]

What happens if you eg. have a 5 thread plan and want to add 2 more threads? You either buy another 5 thread plan (if it's even an option), wasting 3 spots OR you buy a 10 thread plan that overrides your current one and you lose days in addition to wasting 3 spots

You don't lose days when you upgrade plans. It's prorated.

If you have 5 threads for 10 days, then upgrade to 10 threads, it remains 10 days.

For example, you have 4 days remaining, then upgrade +5 threads. Those 5 threads are paid for those remaining 4 days, so your plan remains at 10 days. Once the plan hits 10 days you can renew at the new price, 10 threads, 10 days.

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I don't want to incorporate credits to advertising options because the payments can become very large. Our largest credits offering is only $100, but advertising can go $500+and that includes the bump manager.

I don't want sellers buying $100 worth of credits 5-10 times to make an ad purchase, so that's why the 2 systems are separate. Everything in the store is pretty cheap, so $100 is plenty for the shop. I also don't want to start offering $500 credits options just to cater to advertisers. It adds an extra step for no reason.

We can adjust the # of threads box to allow members to input any number they want, but credits won't be integrated. Sorry.

 

[SMMFLAREcom]

I constantly have auto-bumper on at least 8 threads at a time. I've been using the old system for a few months, and just had a chance to try this new one out.

I notice it is a little pricier if you bought credits in bulk before, (at maximum 40% more expensive). This disincentivizes purchasing bulk autobumps, as there's absolutely zero benefit to autobumping an extra thread. Will make people think twice about whether or not their thread is actually worth being autobumped.

The entire idea about how you purchase packages and how they even expire if one of your slots isn't in use is not a particularly good idea in my opinion
I also do not like how you cannot add individual threads. If I want to autobump 8 threads (as I was doing before), I'd have to purchase the 2x package 4 times. This is the same problem as you stated in the post before this 'I don't want sellers buying $100 worth of credits 5-10 times to make an ad purchase, so that's why the 2 systems are separate.' -- I'd have to do 4x $12 transactions, to achieve the same result as I did in one transaction before.

I do like the idea behind the flexibility and how easy it is to add a thread to your autobump list. While this doesn't apply to me specifically (since my threads remain the same) -- it is a cool idea and easy to use!

Just some feedback which can hopefully help improve the system

 

[EpicNPC]

We will update the system to allow members to select the exact number of threads they want. This will be updated by the end of tomorrow.

 

[MyOwn]

suggestions:
1- flexible thread selection
2- flexible number of days up to 1 year
3- discount on bigger numbers.

 

[SMMFLAREcom]

suggestions:
1- flexible thread selection
2- flexible number of days up to 1 year
3- discount on bigger numbers.

I feel like number 3 is a big one. Just like the credit system! It would actually result in people buying more threads at a time, something which they would not have considered without such a discount! Just my 2c though!

 

[Bobu]

I purchased credits in bulk to purchase the future auto-bump for my threads. All of the sudden my credits cannot be used for this anymore?
Is a refund possible? I don't understand how we are not warned before it is discontinued so at least we can use our credits before o_o

 

[EpicNPC]

If you purchased credits for the shop auto-bump items, yes, we can issue a refund. Please open a support ticket here.
https://www.epicnpc.com/misc/contact

We are allowing refunds until Feb 19th for cases like this as long as the credit were purchased between Jan 1 to Feb 19th and haven't been used.

 

[Bobu]

If you purchased credits for the shop auto-bump items, yes, we can issue a refund. Please open a support ticket here.
https://www.epicnpc.com/misc/contact

We are allowing refunds until Feb 19th for cases like this as long as the credit were purchased between Jan 1 to Feb 19th and haven't been used.

Refund received, thank you.
I was screwed though. I did not even have the opportunity to "use" my credit (no warning before your change) and now the price has skyrocketed.


Quick math, let's compare old and new prices.

Spoiler: Quick Maths

OLD PRICE
I paid $25 = 3,750 credit points
30d auto-bump = 650 pts

That's 173.08 days for $25.


NEW PRICE
$6 for 30 days
There is bulk discount.
So $25 is 125 days.

CONCLUSION
There is a 48.08 days difference, making over 38.46% price increase.

I am not contesting about the price increase.
Everyone does it. It's tolerable.

Though make the change suddenly without warning and get screwed on the change without having the opportunity to use their credit points before your change: that I am not OK with.

The least you can do is refund the difference.
Best business decision for you? Just provide the difference + bonus in auto-bump plan instead of cash $.
Your customers don't complain, get some bonus days free and don't even notice the price bump you did.
And best for you: you don't have to refund cash $.

 

[EpicNPC]

I'm sorry, we cannot issue a refund for more than what you paid.

We plan to introduce discount pricing in the future for the bump manager, but this most likely won't be available until sometime in March.

 

[MyOwn]

we will wait march

 

[Bobu]

I'm sorry, we cannot issue a refund for more than what you paid.

We plan to introduce discount pricing in the future for the bump manager, but this most likely won't be available until sometime in March.

All good, I did not ask for a refund. I was suggesting a solution to satisfy people in the same situation as me without spending a dime: just give the difference worth in auto-bump plan.

 

[Taki]

@EpicNPC @IvanDev Is this an update intentionally made or is it a bug? Two buttons are overlapped.

 

[Desire_Ink]

Same problem in mobile browser. Chrome.

 

[EpicNPC]

Sorry, we'll have it fixed soon. It appears in only happens in some browsers.