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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #33FF33">Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> March 13, 2010
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> ICQ/AIM
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> Currents977
<span style="font-weight: bold">Your Instant Messenger ID:</span> Loki
<span style="font-weight: bold">MMOBAY Account of Scammer:</span> Unknown if he has one
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other information: </span> Trade took place on realpoor.com
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span> 80 Hunter WoW account
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> http://www.realpoor.com/WTS_80__H___US_PvP__Belf_Hunter_trade197854.html
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> $75.00 USD
<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?:</span> No
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?:</span> N/A
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed:</span> Buyer sent money as a gift on Paypal, was given full information on account. I waited to make sure he could log in and change the email, test the sq/a, shortly after the transaction was over I checked my paypal account and saw he did a chargeback through his credit card company.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other details / notes:</span> I'm way to blame for letting this happen and I know it. He had the big sign that I look for in scammers: a lack of interest in what they're buying. The good traders I deal with are always psyched about whatever class they're buying, and the scammers I've dealt with are always more concerned with getting the account itself.
I ignored my own doubts about him as I thought having him send the money as a paypal gift would offer me some protection, but here I am.
I was definitely careless with this trade as I wanted it to be the last one I did and I didn't think someone would bother scamming such a limited account, but I guess there's always someone out there looking to get something for nothing.
Already in contact with his ISP/Blizzard/Paypal. Hopefully something not terrible will come from it.
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Proof</span></span> You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Chat Logs:</span> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">currents977 ?(1:58 AM): im interested in buying your wow acc
Loki ?(1:58 AM): Indeed, as I see from the pm. Did you post in the thread first?
currents977 ?(1:58 AM): i will
Loki ?(1:59 AM): Ok, if you could do that real quick that'd be great
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): how much are u looking for it?
Loki ?(1:59 AM): $75
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): sounds fair
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): do u have the full info include the secret answer?
Loki ?(1:59 AM): That I do
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): still has game time on it?
Loki ?(2:00 AM): Yup, just resubscribed, so it has a couple days shy of a full month
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): ok thats fine
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): could u link me the armory?
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): thank u
Loki ?(2:01 AM): Prefer to use anonymous armory, hope you don't mind for the time being:
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=73537
currents977 ?(2:01 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:01 AM): all of the chars are on the same realm?
Loki ?(2:01 AM): It's really just the hunter and a DK leveled to 60
Loki ?(2:02 AM): but yes, they're on the same realm
Loki ?(2:02 AM): and the xfer is available and all that stuff
Loki ?(2:02 AM): just checked, gametime expires april 10th
currents977 ?(2:02 AM): sounds pretty good
currents977 ?(2:02 AM): have any gear in the bank?
Loki ?(2:03 AM): There's a little pvp gear here and there in the bank, but it was mostly a pve focused toon
Loki ?(2:03 AM): and there are BoA shoulders on the DK
currents977 ?(2:03 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:03 AM): how much gold on the chars?
Loki ?(2:03 AM): should be around 2600, including the bank alt
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): ok thats great
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): i just checked the armory link
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): its a nice acc
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): whats your buyout price btw?
Loki ?(2:04 AM): buyout is $75
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): ok i can do that
Loki ?(2:04 AM): groovy. You have a paypal account that's verified and confirmed?
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): yes i do
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): im a paypal verified user for years
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): how about u?
Loki ?(2:05 AM): yup, same
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:06 AM): would u like make this deal now?
currents977 ?(2:06 AM): i would like do this as safe as possible
Loki ?(2:06 AM): I'm definitely okay with doing this now. I'd still like you to post in the thread if you could real quick:
Loki ?(2:06 AM): http://www.realpoor.com/viewtrade.php?trade=197854&hpr=WTS_80__H___US_PvP__Belf_Hunter
currents977 ?(2:07 AM): i just did that
currents977 ?(2:07 AM): http://www.realpoor.com/viewtrade.php?trade=197854
Loki ?(2:07 AM): good lord, been there almost a year with no posts, what's up with that?
currents977 ?(2:08 AM): i dont buy/sell accounts too often
Loki ?(2:08 AM): ah. Hmm.. Have any rep on markeedragon/mmobay?
currents977 ?(2:08 AM): and i always send private msg to the sellers
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): im willing to pay the money first if ur paypal verified
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): sounds fair?
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): as I am just a little too lazy to get a char to 80
Loki ?(2:09 AM): Yeah, would you be willing to send it as a personal gift so I could avoid the charges?
Loki ?(2:09 AM): I know the feeling, lol
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): sure thing
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): im willing to pay the paypal fees
Loki ?(2:10 AM): Ok, cool
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): can i know your paypal email?
Loki ?(2:10 AM): Yup, it's ***********
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): ********** $80?
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): correct?
Loki ?(2:11 AM): Just 75 is fine
currents977 ?(2:11 AM): i will just pay u $80 include the paypal fee
Loki ?(2:11 AM): If you send it as a personal gift it will automatically take the fee from your account
Loki ?(2:12 AM): so you don't have to include the extra $5
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): alright
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): can i get the login,pw and secret answer after the payment shows up on your paypal acc?
Loki ?(2:12 AM): Of course, and I'll stay on to make sure you can test the sq/a, change the email, all that
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): ok sounds good
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): are u sure the secret answer is correct?
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): did u double check it b4 we do this?
Loki ?(2:13 AM): yup, just tested it today
Loki ?(2:13 AM): before i listed it
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): ok thats fine
currents977 ?(2:14 AM): give me a couple of mins plz,i will let u know when i sent it
Loki ?(2:14 AM): Ok
currents977 ?(2:15 AM): how long have u been playing this toon?
Loki ?(2:15 AM): It's been a while at this point, over a year
currents977 ?(2:16 AM): cool
Loki ?(2:16 AM): Hunter has been a pretty cool class to play, but I'm trying to get out of the game.
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): yes i see
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): are u on your paypal acc right now?
Loki ?(2:17 AM): yup
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): ok i just sent the money to u
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): check plz
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): i paid the money to u as gift
Loki ?(2:18 AM): Cool, looks like I got it
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): and i paid the fees
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): cool
Loki ?(2:18 AM): lemme reset the pw for ya real quick
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): may i ask for the info now?
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): sure thing
Loki ?(2:18 AM): the battle.net login ******
Loki ?(2:19 AM): pw is *****
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): checking
Loki ?(2:19 AM): sq/a is ********
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): ok checking now
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): give me a sec
Loki ?(2:19 AM): np
Loki ?(2:20 AM): Oh, I know you're checking it, but after we're done, if you could use the buy it now or bid option so I could complete the sale on realpoor that'd be great
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): ok i will do that
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): dont worry
Loki ?(2:20 AM): great, ty
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): is this your last acc for sale btw?
Loki ?(2:21 AM): yes it is. i had another that i had traded on markeedragon, but that got all messed up thanks to the guy i traded it to
currents977 ?(2:21 AM): are u on the acc management page still?
Loki ?(2:21 AM): just logged out
currents977 ?(2:21 AM): which realm i could find your 80lvl char?
Loki ?(2:22 AM): *******
currents977 ?(2:22 AM): ok
Loki ?(2:22 AM): ****** is pv* fwiw
currents977 ?(2:22 AM): yes i see
Loki ?(2:22 AM): k
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): i just bought your acc out
Loki ?(2:23 AM): sweet, ty
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): np
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): everything is ok
Loki ?(2:24 AM): looks like it's all there?
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): thank u for your honest in the whole
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): yes
Loki ?(2:24 AM): good deal
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): i will take care of it and enjoy it
Loki ?(2:24 AM): i hope so
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): feel free to lemme know if u got another 80lvl acc for sale
Loki ?(2:24 AM): will do
Loki ?(2:24 AM): let me know if you have any problems with the account
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): k
Loki ?(2:26 AM): I'm off to bed, have a good night
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): glad you are so honest and quick
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): nice doing business with u
Loki ?(2:26 AM): you as well, take care
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): gn</div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Pictures/Screenshots: </span>
"Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" I really gotta start listening to advice from movies!
<span style="color: #66FFFF"><span style="font-weight: bold">Additional Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Yes, but his email & usernames didn't give any results. Especially with realpoor's broken search function.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span> No
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?:</span> 1 account trade on MD - preMMOBay changeover. 1 purchase after.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Date that scamming took place:</span> March 13, 2010
<span style="font-weight: bold">Method of Contact Used:</span> ICQ/AIM
<span style="font-weight: bold">Instant Messenger ID of scammer:</span> Currents977
<span style="font-weight: bold">Your Instant Messenger ID:</span> Loki
<span style="font-weight: bold">MMOBAY Account of Scammer:</span> Unknown if he has one
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other information: </span> Trade took place on realpoor.com
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FFFF00">Scam Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">What was scammed?: </span> 80 Hunter WoW account
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link of trade thread:</span> http://www.realpoor.com/WTS_80__H___US_PvP__Belf_Hunter_trade197854.html
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximate value of scammed property:</span> $75.00 USD
<span style="font-weight: bold">Was a middleman used?:</span> No
<span style="font-weight: bold">If yes, who?:</span> N/A
<span style="font-weight: bold">Describe how you were scammed:</span> Buyer sent money as a gift on Paypal, was given full information on account. I waited to make sure he could log in and change the email, test the sq/a, shortly after the transaction was over I checked my paypal account and saw he did a chargeback through his credit card company.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Other details / notes:</span> I'm way to blame for letting this happen and I know it. He had the big sign that I look for in scammers: a lack of interest in what they're buying. The good traders I deal with are always psyched about whatever class they're buying, and the scammers I've dealt with are always more concerned with getting the account itself.
I ignored my own doubts about him as I thought having him send the money as a paypal gift would offer me some protection, but here I am.
I was definitely careless with this trade as I wanted it to be the last one I did and I didn't think someone would bother scamming such a limited account, but I guess there's always someone out there looking to get something for nothing.
Already in contact with his ISP/Blizzard/Paypal. Hopefully something not terrible will come from it.
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Proof</span></span> You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Chat Logs:</span> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">currents977 ?(1:58 AM): im interested in buying your wow acc
Loki ?(1:58 AM): Indeed, as I see from the pm. Did you post in the thread first?
currents977 ?(1:58 AM): i will
Loki ?(1:59 AM): Ok, if you could do that real quick that'd be great
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): how much are u looking for it?
Loki ?(1:59 AM): $75
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): sounds fair
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): do u have the full info include the secret answer?
Loki ?(1:59 AM): That I do
currents977 ?(1:59 AM): still has game time on it?
Loki ?(2:00 AM): Yup, just resubscribed, so it has a couple days shy of a full month
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): ok thats fine
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): could u link me the armory?
currents977 ?(2:00 AM): thank u
Loki ?(2:01 AM): Prefer to use anonymous armory, hope you don't mind for the time being:
http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=73537
currents977 ?(2:01 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:01 AM): all of the chars are on the same realm?
Loki ?(2:01 AM): It's really just the hunter and a DK leveled to 60
Loki ?(2:02 AM): but yes, they're on the same realm
Loki ?(2:02 AM): and the xfer is available and all that stuff
Loki ?(2:02 AM): just checked, gametime expires april 10th
currents977 ?(2:02 AM): sounds pretty good
currents977 ?(2:02 AM): have any gear in the bank?
Loki ?(2:03 AM): There's a little pvp gear here and there in the bank, but it was mostly a pve focused toon
Loki ?(2:03 AM): and there are BoA shoulders on the DK
currents977 ?(2:03 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:03 AM): how much gold on the chars?
Loki ?(2:03 AM): should be around 2600, including the bank alt
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): ok thats great
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): i just checked the armory link
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): its a nice acc
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): whats your buyout price btw?
Loki ?(2:04 AM): buyout is $75
currents977 ?(2:04 AM): ok i can do that
Loki ?(2:04 AM): groovy. You have a paypal account that's verified and confirmed?
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): yes i do
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): im a paypal verified user for years
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): how about u?
Loki ?(2:05 AM): yup, same
currents977 ?(2:05 AM): ok
currents977 ?(2:06 AM): would u like make this deal now?
currents977 ?(2:06 AM): i would like do this as safe as possible
Loki ?(2:06 AM): I'm definitely okay with doing this now. I'd still like you to post in the thread if you could real quick:
Loki ?(2:06 AM): http://www.realpoor.com/viewtrade.php?trade=197854&hpr=WTS_80__H___US_PvP__Belf_Hunter
currents977 ?(2:07 AM): i just did that
currents977 ?(2:07 AM): http://www.realpoor.com/viewtrade.php?trade=197854
Loki ?(2:07 AM): good lord, been there almost a year with no posts, what's up with that?
currents977 ?(2:08 AM): i dont buy/sell accounts too often
Loki ?(2:08 AM): ah. Hmm.. Have any rep on markeedragon/mmobay?
currents977 ?(2:08 AM): and i always send private msg to the sellers
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): im willing to pay the money first if ur paypal verified
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): sounds fair?
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): as I am just a little too lazy to get a char to 80
Loki ?(2:09 AM): Yeah, would you be willing to send it as a personal gift so I could avoid the charges?
Loki ?(2:09 AM): I know the feeling, lol
currents977 ?(2:09 AM): sure thing
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): im willing to pay the paypal fees
Loki ?(2:10 AM): Ok, cool
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): can i know your paypal email?
Loki ?(2:10 AM): Yup, it's ***********
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): ********** $80?
currents977 ?(2:10 AM): correct?
Loki ?(2:11 AM): Just 75 is fine
currents977 ?(2:11 AM): i will just pay u $80 include the paypal fee
Loki ?(2:11 AM): If you send it as a personal gift it will automatically take the fee from your account
Loki ?(2:12 AM): so you don't have to include the extra $5
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): alright
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): can i get the login,pw and secret answer after the payment shows up on your paypal acc?
Loki ?(2:12 AM): Of course, and I'll stay on to make sure you can test the sq/a, change the email, all that
currents977 ?(2:12 AM): ok sounds good
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): are u sure the secret answer is correct?
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): did u double check it b4 we do this?
Loki ?(2:13 AM): yup, just tested it today
Loki ?(2:13 AM): before i listed it
currents977 ?(2:13 AM): ok thats fine
currents977 ?(2:14 AM): give me a couple of mins plz,i will let u know when i sent it
Loki ?(2:14 AM): Ok
currents977 ?(2:15 AM): how long have u been playing this toon?
Loki ?(2:15 AM): It's been a while at this point, over a year
currents977 ?(2:16 AM): cool
Loki ?(2:16 AM): Hunter has been a pretty cool class to play, but I'm trying to get out of the game.
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): yes i see
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): are u on your paypal acc right now?
Loki ?(2:17 AM): yup
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): ok i just sent the money to u
currents977 ?(2:17 AM): check plz
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): i paid the money to u as gift
Loki ?(2:18 AM): Cool, looks like I got it
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): and i paid the fees
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): cool
Loki ?(2:18 AM): lemme reset the pw for ya real quick
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): may i ask for the info now?
currents977 ?(2:18 AM): sure thing
Loki ?(2:18 AM): the battle.net login ******
Loki ?(2:19 AM): pw is *****
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): checking
Loki ?(2:19 AM): sq/a is ********
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): ok checking now
currents977 ?(2:19 AM): give me a sec
Loki ?(2:19 AM): np
Loki ?(2:20 AM): Oh, I know you're checking it, but after we're done, if you could use the buy it now or bid option so I could complete the sale on realpoor that'd be great
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): ok i will do that
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): dont worry
Loki ?(2:20 AM): great, ty
currents977 ?(2:20 AM): is this your last acc for sale btw?
Loki ?(2:21 AM): yes it is. i had another that i had traded on markeedragon, but that got all messed up thanks to the guy i traded it to
currents977 ?(2:21 AM): are u on the acc management page still?
Loki ?(2:21 AM): just logged out
currents977 ?(2:21 AM): which realm i could find your 80lvl char?
Loki ?(2:22 AM): *******
currents977 ?(2:22 AM): ok
Loki ?(2:22 AM): ****** is pv* fwiw
currents977 ?(2:22 AM): yes i see
Loki ?(2:22 AM): k
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): i just bought your acc out
Loki ?(2:23 AM): sweet, ty
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): np
currents977 ?(2:23 AM): everything is ok
Loki ?(2:24 AM): looks like it's all there?
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): thank u for your honest in the whole
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): yes
Loki ?(2:24 AM): good deal
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): i will take care of it and enjoy it
Loki ?(2:24 AM): i hope so
currents977 ?(2:24 AM): feel free to lemme know if u got another 80lvl acc for sale
Loki ?(2:24 AM): will do
Loki ?(2:24 AM): let me know if you have any problems with the account
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): k
Loki ?(2:26 AM): I'm off to bed, have a good night
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): glad you are so honest and quick
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): nice doing business with u
Loki ?(2:26 AM): you as well, take care
currents977 ?(2:26 AM): gn</div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Pictures/Screenshots: </span>
"Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt" I really gotta start listening to advice from movies!
<span style="color: #66FFFF"><span style="font-weight: bold">Additional Information</span></span>
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Did you do any background searching before the trade?:</span> Yes, but his email & usernames didn't give any results. Especially with realpoor's broken search function.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Have you traded with this person before?:</span> No
<span style="font-weight: bold">Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?:</span> 1 account trade on MD - preMMOBay changeover. 1 purchase after.
