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Re: Genshin account reclaimed by original owner

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Information
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Purchase Date: 31/01/22
Date the problem began: 03/07/22
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Epic NPC chat program
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Kimiyoshi
Your Instant Messenger ID: Monaanom

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-ar47-childe-eula-kokomi-diluc-mona-15.2126137/ (second post)
Approximate value of property: $40.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Somatotropin

What is the dispute about? The seller Kimiyoshi sold me the account on 31st January 2022, I used the account daily until 22nd April 2022 when I re-sold the account to user Vixxluna here https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/⛩️n...ao-ganyu-shenhe-kokomi-moonglow-more.2212383/. Vixxluna used the account with no issues until 3rd July 2022 when they could no longer access the account, because the email was changed by the original seller Kimiyoshi under the false claim that the account was stolen. Kimiyoshi got in contact with Vixxluna via discord under the name 'Kimiyo' to make this claim

Other details / notes: Vixxluna made their own claim first here https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-account-reclaimed-by-original-owner.2266336/ after being told the account was stolen


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

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Other proof:
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Discord messages between Vixxluna (ava) and Kimiyoshi (Kimiyo)

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Discord messages after the responce to claim:
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? Yes
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) The date the account was made, with the original country and city. Reciept from an ingame purchase
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 81 days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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After talking with them some more, I think this person is impersonating ‘Kimiyo’ on here.

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The account sold here was listed on January 29th, and they have proof they’ve been trying to regain access to the account since December.


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(This is what they’ve sent me)

Meaning this person did get hacked, but by somebody else. Presumably whoever runs the Kimiyoshi account.
 
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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/re-genshin-account-reclaimed-by-original-owner.2266414/
What bruh, i didnt hack anything. I got the account from a brazilian facebook group because my girlfriend liked kokomi way back in january, it costed me like 20us or so but she got a better account from her friend that had zhongli so i sold that account to recover my money, i didnt know it was hacked, my bad man i said i was original owner because i thought it would only sell like that

https://www.facebook.com/groups/genshinvendas

F..k man, i can give you the money back, can i send half first then half later or can you wait two months? dolar is very expensive in my country.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/re-genshin-account-reclaimed-by-original-owner.2266414/
i dont know the dude i got my name from higurashi, i use that id for mmos since way back in the 2000s.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/re-genshin-account-reclaimed-by-original-owner.2266414/
If you want the money back i can give you 20 this month and 20 next or 40 next month.

If you want the account talk it out with the dude, or buy from him, the guy from the group who sold to me never gave me any info and i never asked, i didn't know they could recover it.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/re-genshin-account-reclaimed-by-original-owner.2266414/
@kimiyoshi please update on status of resolution
Same as that thread, both are related, not like i got contacted or anything. And i'm confused, last time i checked both threads were locked for replies to me, thought it was resolved, my bad, it doesn't seem like they'll able to get the account back so the last option seems to be the refund route, i give 40$ and he gives vixxluna 190$ and like i said before i offered how i can proceed with the refund.
 
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