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Date that sale/trade took place: May 15, 2013
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of other party: No
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected]
MMOBay Account of other party: No
Other information:
Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? This scammer Coldmoonrise bought my account tanker level 99 and 10b gold adena in game online MMORPG Lineage2 Official
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading: http://www.epicnpc.com/lineage-2-ac...ul-99-iss-99-blessed-weapon-apo-r95-99-a.html
Approximate value of property: $750.00 USD
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong: This scammer bought my account and gold from Lineage2 Official and after about 25 days, he pm me through skype and told me that the account got recalled, and he didn't wait for my reply, he recalled the money on paypal and go to my business page make the negative feedback. I have contacted with the original owner of the account ( He is my old friend) and the owner said he didn't recall his account and if I need help, he can help me to do that. So, this scammer after take my account and gold, he try to make me confuse that he got recalled but in real, he wanna steal my money on paypal after sending it . My paypal balance now is -750 $
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Chat Logs:
[6/12/2013 12:44:28 AM] Skyler Campbell: Please respon ASAP
[6/12/2013 12:44:32 AM] Skyler Campbell: respond
[6/12/2013 12:44:47 AM] Skyler Campbell: I would just like to inform you that the account you sold me has been recalled
[6/12/2013 12:45:13 AM] Skyler Campbell: I can no longer log into said account
[6/12/2013 12:45:23 AM] Skyler Campbell: and the secret questions has been changed
[6/12/2013 12:47:53 AM] Skyler Campbell: If I do not receieve a response in a timely manner I will have to change my feedback rating and leave a comment on your page
[6/12/2013 12:48:11 AM] Skyler Campbell: I will then be conatacting pay pal to make a dispute
[6/12/2013 12:55:01 AM] Skyler Campbell: Once again, please respon asap
[6/12/2013 1:01:12 AM] Skyler Campbell: If I do not recieve a response before morning, which is in 10 hours here, I will be submitting the feedback and disputing with pay pal, if we are able to sort this out and items and or currency are missing on my character, I will be submitting feedback and disputing with pay pal.
[6/12/2013 1:08:33 AM] Skyler Campbell: I will be going to my bank tommorow morning to issue a chargeback if I do not get a response, be advised.
[6/12/2013 2:02:46 AM] Skyler Campbell: Be aware that as of this moment I have opened claims with pay pal disputing all transactions against you, they are all being investigated. If the investigations to not go through within the 7 days that they have provided me with I will be going directly to my bank to issue chargebacks for all transactions, since this was paid for directly from my bank through pay pal and not with a pay pal balance, the chargebacks will go through, 100%. Be aware, thanks in advance.
[6/12/2013 6:26:24 AM] Skyler Campbell: As I have noticed you logged off without a reply I have submitted negative feedback on your feedback page.
[6/12/2013 9:14:59 AM] Skyler Campbell: Good news, the chargebacks went through, enjoy your negative feedback. Thanks for the recalled account.
[6/12/2013 9:15:33 AM] Skyler Campbell: I might have bought more adena from you, oh well. Dont sell accounts if they are going to get taken back.
[6/12/2013 9:19:29 AM] My Nguyen: hi
[6/12/2013 9:19:49 AM] My Nguyen: I just wake up in the morning
[6/12/2013 9:19:57 AM] My Nguyen: what account you bought from me
[6/12/2013 9:20:01 AM] My Nguyen: please tel me
[6/12/2013 9:28:04 AM] My Nguyen: you are scammer or what
[6/12/2013 9:28:27 AM] My Nguyen: u bought adena from me and u recall the money you bought?
[6/12/2013 3:55:32 PM] Jose Rivera: hi
[6/12/2013 3:55:41 PM] My Nguyen: hi
[6/12/2013 3:55:48 PM] Jose Rivera: just wanting to know why are you trying to recall the money
[6/12/2013 3:55:57 PM] My Nguyen: you are recall your account
[6/12/2013 3:56:03 PM] Jose Rivera: i didnt recall
[6/12/2013 3:56:06 PM] My Nguyen: my customer has been recalled the account
[6/12/2013 3:56:12 PM] My Nguyen: so, he take all my money back
[6/12/2013 3:56:15 PM] Jose Rivera: im original owner
[6/12/2013 3:56:22 PM] Jose Rivera: and i didnt recall
[6/12/2013 3:56:29 PM] My Nguyen: yes, and he told me that he got recalled the account
[6/12/2013 3:56:52 PM] My Nguyen: ok, so now first , you have to real recall the account tanker
[6/12/2013 3:56:56 PM] Jose Rivera: but it wasnt me and im the only one with all acct info and you now
[6/12/2013 3:57:15 PM] Jose Rivera: i gave you everything with all product and all gear all jewelry
[6/12/2013 3:57:21 PM] My Nguyen: ok, if not you
[6/12/2013 3:57:27 PM] My Nguyen: please recall the account for me right now
[6/12/2013 3:57:29 PM] My Nguyen: because
[6/12/2013 3:57:32 PM] My Nguyen: on my paypal balance
[6/12/2013 3:57:39 PM] My Nguyen: this fuker recall 750$ dollars
[6/12/2013 3:58:01 PM] My Nguyen: so, please contact with NCsoft
[6/12/2013 3:58:07 PM] Jose Rivera: i havent even call ncsoft
[6/12/2013 3:58:15 PM] My Nguyen: to recall your account right now
[6/12/2013 3:58:25 PM] My Nguyen: and after you restore the account
[6/12/2013 3:58:29 PM] My Nguyen: give it to me with
[6/12/2013 3:58:34 PM] My Nguyen: full info again
[6/12/2013 3:58:34 PM] Jose Rivera: ok i will right now please be patient i have to respond to paypal now
[6/12/2013 3:58:39 PM] Jose Rivera: ok one esc
[6/12/2013 3:58:41 PM] My Nguyen: i will cancel the dispute
[6/12/2013 3:58:47 PM] Jose Rivera: were you botting with that acct?
[6/12/2013 3:58:52 PM] My Nguyen: no
[6/12/2013 3:58:54 PM] My Nguyen: i sold them
[6/12/2013 3:58:58 PM] My Nguyen: for a fuker from shilen
[6/12/2013 3:59:02 PM] My Nguyen: he is living in canada
[6/12/2013 3:59:09 PM] My Nguyen: do you wanna see
[6/12/2013 3:59:12 PM] My Nguyen: the conversation
[6/12/2013 3:59:15 PM] My Nguyen: that he talk with me?
[6/12/2013 3:59:28 PM] Jose Rivera: no need i trust you guys
[6/12/2013 3:59:56 PM] Jose Rivera: so you resold my acct?
[6/12/2013 4:00:00 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 4:00:05 PM] My Nguyen: because im doing business
[6/12/2013 4:00:10 PM] My Nguyen: so, just recall your account
[6/12/2013 4:00:18 PM] My Nguyen: and give me all the info with his items
[6/12/2013 4:00:21 PM] Jose Rivera: ohh that was a little fast for ncsfot maybe they taught u been hack
[6/12/2013 4:00:25 PM] My Nguyen: then i will cancel the dispute for u
[6/12/2013 4:00:36 PM] Jose Rivera: but ill try to do a recall on acct i dotn even know were to do that
[6/12/2013 4:00:51 PM] My Nguyen: you can go ahead and do that
[6/12/2013 4:00:55 PM] My Nguyen: try to do that
[6/12/2013 4:01:02 PM] My Nguyen: because if I dont have the account in my hand
[6/12/2013 4:01:08 PM] My Nguyen: my customer told me that account recall
[6/12/2013 4:01:19 PM] My Nguyen: I have to recall my money from you , thats why i need your help
[6/12/2013 4:01:25 PM] My Nguyen: if we want to solve the problem right now
[6/12/2013 4:01:44 PM] My Nguyen: this fuker also make a negative feedback on my website
[6/12/2013 4:01:57 PM] Jose Rivera: but you re sold it i didnt recall or got an email saying the acct was recall i will check maybe the guy wanted to steel from you steal all the items from acct and saying the acct was recall
[6/12/2013 4:02:11 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 4:02:13 PM] My Nguyen: thats right
[6/12/2013 4:02:24 PM] My Nguyen: even if account is clear now
[6/12/2013 4:02:29 PM] My Nguyen: but i wanna my account back
[6/12/2013 4:02:37 PM] My Nguyen: and I will help you to solve problem
[6/12/2013 4:02:45 PM] Jose Rivera: ok i will check but i didnt recall the acct
[6/12/2013 4:02:54 PM] My Nguyen: Yes, today i talk with vn
[6/12/2013 4:02:56 PM] My Nguyen: and he said
[6/12/2013 4:02:58 PM] My Nguyen: you are good
[6/12/2013 4:03:04 PM] My Nguyen: he didnt believe that you recall
[6/12/2013 4:03:30 PM] My Nguyen: maybe this fuker wanna recall money so he try to steal it
[6/12/2013 4:03:33 PM] Jose Rivera: ok please the only reason i sold is beacase i dotn play no more i dont have any reason to recall it im enjoying time with my kids
[6/12/2013 4:04:01 PM] Jose Rivera: i will check ncsoft right now first i have to answer paypal
[6/12/2013 4:04:18 PM] My Nguyen: you dont have to answer anything because it will be useless
[6/12/2013 4:04:23 PM] My Nguyen: we are selling stuffs online
[6/12/2013 4:04:29 PM] My Nguyen: not have even the reciept
[6/12/2013 4:04:39 PM] My Nguyen: so you cant do anything only when i try to cancel
[6/12/2013 4:04:44 PM] Jose Rivera: ok
[6/12/2013 4:04:55 PM] My Nguyen: just try to recall money back
[6/12/2013 4:05:02 PM] My Nguyen: account**
[6/12/2013 5:02:39 PM] Jose Rivera: sorry for late reply i have to call ncsoft because the website is down im trying to download lindivour update just to see if acct is still active
[6/12/2013 5:02:52 PM] My Nguyen: ok
[6/12/2013 5:02:58 PM] Jose Rivera: did you change the way i use to login?
[6/12/2013 5:03:04 PM] Jose Rivera: like with email
i think this person is trying to steal from you
[6/12/2013 5:03:58 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 5:04:12 PM] Jose Rivera: i got 4% into lindiviour
[6/12/2013 5:06:19 PM] Jose Rivera: i really want to keep doing busines with you guys in case i want to come back i have other acct i dont use that i will keep with other gear i really will never recall acct and other items i have sold i have others customers
[6/12/2013 5:06:29 PM] Jose Rivera: can i come in vent ?
[6/12/2013 5:06:40 PM] My Nguyen: we are doing raid boss
[6/12/2013 5:06:45 PM] My Nguyen: but u can come btw
[6/12/2013 5:06:47 PM] Jose Rivera: k
[6/12/2013 5:18:18 PM] My Nguyen: channel 1
[6/12/2013 5:18:20 PM] My Nguyen: come here
[6/12/2013 5:28:53 PM] Jose Rivera: https://lineage2.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/993/
[6/12/2013 5:38:49 PM] Jose Rivera: 1-850-276-2622 just call me if i can be any help im on vacation untill next monday so im available all time if i dotn answer i call you back within 1 hour but please leave message
[6/12/2013 5:39:47 PM] Jose Rivera: i just sent the emails to ncsfot to recall the acct so hopefully we can get this resolve within the next few days
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Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional)
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Date that sale/trade took place: May 15, 2013
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger ID of other party: No
Your Instant Messenger ID: [email protected]
MMOBay Account of other party: No
Other information:
Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? This scammer Coldmoonrise bought my account tanker level 99 and 10b gold adena in game online MMORPG Lineage2 Official
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading: http://www.epicnpc.com/lineage-2-ac...ul-99-iss-99-blessed-weapon-apo-r95-99-a.html
Approximate value of property: $750.00 USD
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong: This scammer bought my account and gold from Lineage2 Official and after about 25 days, he pm me through skype and told me that the account got recalled, and he didn't wait for my reply, he recalled the money on paypal and go to my business page make the negative feedback. I have contacted with the original owner of the account ( He is my old friend) and the owner said he didn't recall his account and if I need help, he can help me to do that. So, this scammer after take my account and gold, he try to make me confuse that he got recalled but in real, he wanna steal my money on paypal after sending it . My paypal balance now is -750 $
Other details / notes:
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:
Here is the chat logs from this scammer :
[6/12/2013 12:44:03 AM] Skyler Campbell: Uh hi?[6/12/2013 12:44:28 AM] Skyler Campbell: Please respon ASAP
[6/12/2013 12:44:32 AM] Skyler Campbell: respond
[6/12/2013 12:44:47 AM] Skyler Campbell: I would just like to inform you that the account you sold me has been recalled
[6/12/2013 12:45:13 AM] Skyler Campbell: I can no longer log into said account
[6/12/2013 12:45:23 AM] Skyler Campbell: and the secret questions has been changed
[6/12/2013 12:47:53 AM] Skyler Campbell: If I do not receieve a response in a timely manner I will have to change my feedback rating and leave a comment on your page
[6/12/2013 12:48:11 AM] Skyler Campbell: I will then be conatacting pay pal to make a dispute
[6/12/2013 12:55:01 AM] Skyler Campbell: Once again, please respon asap
[6/12/2013 1:01:12 AM] Skyler Campbell: If I do not recieve a response before morning, which is in 10 hours here, I will be submitting the feedback and disputing with pay pal, if we are able to sort this out and items and or currency are missing on my character, I will be submitting feedback and disputing with pay pal.
[6/12/2013 1:08:33 AM] Skyler Campbell: I will be going to my bank tommorow morning to issue a chargeback if I do not get a response, be advised.
[6/12/2013 2:02:46 AM] Skyler Campbell: Be aware that as of this moment I have opened claims with pay pal disputing all transactions against you, they are all being investigated. If the investigations to not go through within the 7 days that they have provided me with I will be going directly to my bank to issue chargebacks for all transactions, since this was paid for directly from my bank through pay pal and not with a pay pal balance, the chargebacks will go through, 100%. Be aware, thanks in advance.
[6/12/2013 6:26:24 AM] Skyler Campbell: As I have noticed you logged off without a reply I have submitted negative feedback on your feedback page.
[6/12/2013 9:14:59 AM] Skyler Campbell: Good news, the chargebacks went through, enjoy your negative feedback. Thanks for the recalled account.
[6/12/2013 9:15:33 AM] Skyler Campbell: I might have bought more adena from you, oh well. Dont sell accounts if they are going to get taken back.
[6/12/2013 9:19:29 AM] My Nguyen: hi
[6/12/2013 9:19:49 AM] My Nguyen: I just wake up in the morning
[6/12/2013 9:19:57 AM] My Nguyen: what account you bought from me
[6/12/2013 9:20:01 AM] My Nguyen: please tel me
[6/12/2013 9:28:04 AM] My Nguyen: you are scammer or what
[6/12/2013 9:28:27 AM] My Nguyen: u bought adena from me and u recall the money you bought?
Here is the chat logs I have contacted with original owner:
[6/12/2013 3:55:32 PM] Jose Rivera: hi
[6/12/2013 3:55:41 PM] My Nguyen: hi
[6/12/2013 3:55:48 PM] Jose Rivera: just wanting to know why are you trying to recall the money
[6/12/2013 3:55:57 PM] My Nguyen: you are recall your account
[6/12/2013 3:56:03 PM] Jose Rivera: i didnt recall
[6/12/2013 3:56:06 PM] My Nguyen: my customer has been recalled the account
[6/12/2013 3:56:12 PM] My Nguyen: so, he take all my money back
[6/12/2013 3:56:15 PM] Jose Rivera: im original owner
[6/12/2013 3:56:22 PM] Jose Rivera: and i didnt recall
[6/12/2013 3:56:29 PM] My Nguyen: yes, and he told me that he got recalled the account
[6/12/2013 3:56:52 PM] My Nguyen: ok, so now first , you have to real recall the account tanker
[6/12/2013 3:56:56 PM] Jose Rivera: but it wasnt me and im the only one with all acct info and you now
[6/12/2013 3:57:15 PM] Jose Rivera: i gave you everything with all product and all gear all jewelry
[6/12/2013 3:57:21 PM] My Nguyen: ok, if not you
[6/12/2013 3:57:27 PM] My Nguyen: please recall the account for me right now
[6/12/2013 3:57:29 PM] My Nguyen: because
[6/12/2013 3:57:32 PM] My Nguyen: on my paypal balance
[6/12/2013 3:57:39 PM] My Nguyen: this fuker recall 750$ dollars
[6/12/2013 3:58:01 PM] My Nguyen: so, please contact with NCsoft
[6/12/2013 3:58:07 PM] Jose Rivera: i havent even call ncsoft
[6/12/2013 3:58:15 PM] My Nguyen: to recall your account right now
[6/12/2013 3:58:25 PM] My Nguyen: and after you restore the account
[6/12/2013 3:58:29 PM] My Nguyen: give it to me with
[6/12/2013 3:58:34 PM] My Nguyen: full info again
[6/12/2013 3:58:34 PM] Jose Rivera: ok i will right now please be patient i have to respond to paypal now
[6/12/2013 3:58:39 PM] Jose Rivera: ok one esc
[6/12/2013 3:58:41 PM] My Nguyen: i will cancel the dispute
[6/12/2013 3:58:47 PM] Jose Rivera: were you botting with that acct?
[6/12/2013 3:58:52 PM] My Nguyen: no
[6/12/2013 3:58:54 PM] My Nguyen: i sold them
[6/12/2013 3:58:58 PM] My Nguyen: for a fuker from shilen
[6/12/2013 3:59:02 PM] My Nguyen: he is living in canada
[6/12/2013 3:59:09 PM] My Nguyen: do you wanna see
[6/12/2013 3:59:12 PM] My Nguyen: the conversation
[6/12/2013 3:59:15 PM] My Nguyen: that he talk with me?
[6/12/2013 3:59:28 PM] Jose Rivera: no need i trust you guys
[6/12/2013 3:59:56 PM] Jose Rivera: so you resold my acct?
[6/12/2013 4:00:00 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 4:00:05 PM] My Nguyen: because im doing business
[6/12/2013 4:00:10 PM] My Nguyen: so, just recall your account
[6/12/2013 4:00:18 PM] My Nguyen: and give me all the info with his items
[6/12/2013 4:00:21 PM] Jose Rivera: ohh that was a little fast for ncsfot maybe they taught u been hack
[6/12/2013 4:00:25 PM] My Nguyen: then i will cancel the dispute for u
[6/12/2013 4:00:36 PM] Jose Rivera: but ill try to do a recall on acct i dotn even know were to do that
[6/12/2013 4:00:51 PM] My Nguyen: you can go ahead and do that
[6/12/2013 4:00:55 PM] My Nguyen: try to do that
[6/12/2013 4:01:02 PM] My Nguyen: because if I dont have the account in my hand
[6/12/2013 4:01:08 PM] My Nguyen: my customer told me that account recall
[6/12/2013 4:01:19 PM] My Nguyen: I have to recall my money from you , thats why i need your help
[6/12/2013 4:01:25 PM] My Nguyen: if we want to solve the problem right now
[6/12/2013 4:01:44 PM] My Nguyen: this fuker also make a negative feedback on my website
[6/12/2013 4:01:57 PM] Jose Rivera: but you re sold it i didnt recall or got an email saying the acct was recall i will check maybe the guy wanted to steel from you steal all the items from acct and saying the acct was recall
[6/12/2013 4:02:11 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 4:02:13 PM] My Nguyen: thats right
[6/12/2013 4:02:24 PM] My Nguyen: even if account is clear now
[6/12/2013 4:02:29 PM] My Nguyen: but i wanna my account back
[6/12/2013 4:02:37 PM] My Nguyen: and I will help you to solve problem
[6/12/2013 4:02:45 PM] Jose Rivera: ok i will check but i didnt recall the acct
[6/12/2013 4:02:54 PM] My Nguyen: Yes, today i talk with vn
[6/12/2013 4:02:56 PM] My Nguyen: and he said
[6/12/2013 4:02:58 PM] My Nguyen: you are good
[6/12/2013 4:03:04 PM] My Nguyen: he didnt believe that you recall
[6/12/2013 4:03:30 PM] My Nguyen: maybe this fuker wanna recall money so he try to steal it
[6/12/2013 4:03:33 PM] Jose Rivera: ok please the only reason i sold is beacase i dotn play no more i dont have any reason to recall it im enjoying time with my kids
[6/12/2013 4:04:01 PM] Jose Rivera: i will check ncsoft right now first i have to answer paypal
[6/12/2013 4:04:18 PM] My Nguyen: you dont have to answer anything because it will be useless
[6/12/2013 4:04:23 PM] My Nguyen: we are selling stuffs online
[6/12/2013 4:04:29 PM] My Nguyen: not have even the reciept
[6/12/2013 4:04:39 PM] My Nguyen: so you cant do anything only when i try to cancel
[6/12/2013 4:04:44 PM] Jose Rivera: ok
[6/12/2013 4:04:55 PM] My Nguyen: just try to recall money back
[6/12/2013 4:05:02 PM] My Nguyen: account**
[6/12/2013 5:02:39 PM] Jose Rivera: sorry for late reply i have to call ncsoft because the website is down im trying to download lindivour update just to see if acct is still active
[6/12/2013 5:02:52 PM] My Nguyen: ok
[6/12/2013 5:02:58 PM] Jose Rivera: did you change the way i use to login?
[6/12/2013 5:03:04 PM] Jose Rivera: like with email
i think this person is trying to steal from you
[6/12/2013 5:03:58 PM] My Nguyen: yes
[6/12/2013 5:04:12 PM] Jose Rivera: i got 4% into lindiviour
[6/12/2013 5:06:19 PM] Jose Rivera: i really want to keep doing busines with you guys in case i want to come back i have other acct i dont use that i will keep with other gear i really will never recall acct and other items i have sold i have others customers
[6/12/2013 5:06:29 PM] Jose Rivera: can i come in vent ?
[6/12/2013 5:06:40 PM] My Nguyen: we are doing raid boss
[6/12/2013 5:06:45 PM] My Nguyen: but u can come btw
[6/12/2013 5:06:47 PM] Jose Rivera: k
[6/12/2013 5:18:18 PM] My Nguyen: channel 1
[6/12/2013 5:18:20 PM] My Nguyen: come here
[6/12/2013 5:28:53 PM] Jose Rivera: https://lineage2.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/993/
[6/12/2013 5:38:49 PM] Jose Rivera: 1-850-276-2622 just call me if i can be any help im on vacation untill next monday so im available all time if i dotn answer i call you back within 1 hour but please leave message
[6/12/2013 5:39:47 PM] Jose Rivera: i just sent the emails to ncsfot to recall the acct so hopefully we can get this resolve within the next few days
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Other proof:
Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade? Yes / No (optional)
Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional)
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBay? (optional)
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