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lolwestie breaks the deal

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Godxz

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lolwestie
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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lolwestie-breaks-the-deal.2184700/page-2
Information
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Purchase Date: 10-03-2022
Date the problem began: 12-03-2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Bullwaif#8917
Your Instant Messenger ID: Godx#8502

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts...accounts-with-bis-chars.2178381/#post-8227592 -> This is my thread he bought from me.
Approximate value of property: 120€ + More 60€ which he refuse to give.
Was Trade Guardian used? - No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about? I gave him 2 accounts for the price of 120 Euro, while keep in mind that he has to send me more 2x 30 euro when he access the account and change details.

Other details / notes: It's all about his behaviour.


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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): -> (first part when we deal) -> second part -> when he cancel the deal at the end -> Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
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I am not expecting that much, just this guy will probably start flame and being toxic and lie tru my address, so I wan't to prevent that by posting this. He still owe me 60 euro, but I'll probably just make ticket to Warmane, so the account get banned and that's it. Please restrict this guy from my profile for future. The problem is that he declines to pay the other 60 euro, even when he is able to change the email. And the e-mail is gaven by Middle-Man and it's 100% legit, he could only change it password, put recovery e-mail and his phone number and the email is becoming his. But he acted with this strange behaviour and the conversation ended to that, he wont pay the 60 euro, no matter what. And he askef for "refund", but there's no such thing.

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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lolwestie-breaks-the-deal.2184700/page-2
He got the accounts, he change the email details of the one, and changed the email of the another. I still didnt get the rest of the money which is 60€, I just make this topic so I prevent future lies from his side. I don't claim to get my accounts back for those 60 euro, I am just going to submit tonight ticket to Warmane, so I make sure the accounts get banned for those 60 euro. That's all. I don't mind. He startet flaming me, insulting me and wishing me dead and bunch of bad words removing me from discord, adding me, start insulting, removing me again so I cannot reply, Add me again paste a big massage, removing me again. I told him to visit a doctor, he's not okay mentaly. If you want to keep people like him with behaviour like him and deal breakers, go ahead. I am just submiting a ticket to Warmane for my own so I get this guy banned as he deserve.

Best regards.
 
Hi, so i uploaded all the screen shots in forums and i can stream live everything i got screen shot from the whole chat, once i added this guy he said that he is agreed to sell both accounts for 120 euros that is fair for him and i already payed him 135 euros but because i got scammed few times in last few days in this way i told him i will be kind and if you dont be scammer and make me feel safe i pay you 60 euros more in 7 days and he was totally agreed with this deal so i gave him 135 euros for first payment then instantly after i payed the amount i saw that i cannot change account email's because they've been already changed abit ago so i have to wait 7 days and he didnt mentioned anything about that before i pay even one of the accounts email cannot even be changed and a random seller owes the the email, one of the accounts in warmane support side has few emails that shows the last owner of the account tried to recover many accounts ( which was sold to poor pple ) and each time he tried to recover the accounts after selling it to pple so after few times warmane banned the account for too much recovery and its hesisated now, anyway why should i scam this guy when i already payed 15 euros extra than what he was agreed on if i said i pay 60 euros more i was only kind and i wanted to give him a tip or smth if he dont be scammer but today just 2 days after the payment i woke up and i saw he wrote to me that he want the 60 euros right now and i told him before or after payment few times that i only will give 60 euros more tip after 7 days whenever i be able to change the account details and he was agreed with it so i said only 1,2 days gone i cannot pay you today then we started to arguing alot and this guy threated me with contacting warmane and banning my account and also threating to ban me at epic npc before i have a chance to talk and all i asked for was 7 days of waiting so i can change the details or refund thats all i asked for and he refused both of those options he kept threating me more than 5 times about banning me so how can i ever feel safe again after paying 135 euros when i cannot change my account details i got threated about getting payed when i already lost my money,time and risk of losing both accounts too so idk what i have to do with this guy how its fair even he even forced me to submit positive comment over few times in less than 10 minutes after payment before i even be able to check any details of the account so please judge any proves or requirements are ready to be provided by my side..
 
Im still saying few times and i sent few screen shots about this the extra payment that i was supposed to pay after 7 days when i be able to change full details of the account was only a tip only because of my kindness otherwise price for both accounts that i was interested in was 120 euros in paypal but i payed 135 euros in btc because it was btc payment i payed 15 euros extra, this guy didnt told me about problems that account have about changing the details when i asked about it few times before paying him and he mentioned everything is ok dont worry... basically He broke the agreement after 2 days he dont wanna cancel the deal or do any refund and at the same time he want the extra tip while he keep threating with banning both accounts that i payed 135 euros already for it and he dont listen to anything thats how a scammer works i call this fraud in my opinion.
 
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I'm so much in pain because he lieing so much here, first time he removed me from the friend list and then sent friend request again also second time he removed me again before i have a chance to talk, he started insulting first by saying you was crying like a baby's because you got scammed he mentioned that few times he started threating about banning me on warmane so i couldnt take it anymore and i acted to him like himself, i didnt wish him dead i just said why people like you even living on earth yet there is too many planets out there thats it, i can give you guys my discord username password the whole conversation everything that be needed to prove that this guy is a lier, scammer, fraud abuser and not human at the end i uploaded screen shots of the conversation as much as i could in my ticket to epic npc and i can provide prove for every single word that i said here or on ticket, please for last time tell me why if he break the deal if he is not happy why he dont pay the money back? or why he dont want his accounts back? he already spent my money by buying accessories and he dont have money to pay back so he just wanna ban me because he have no money for canceling the order and he know i wont pay a cent more after all the insults and threats he made to me, if you're unhappy with the deal you can easily cancel it so we can easily get rid of this deal thats it, he dont wanna cancel the order at the same time he ask for more money and he keep threating me with banning me on warmane if i dont pay more money what if i pay more money and he still get banned by him.. how's that even possible where is the fairness i dont understand. its 1am here i cant sleep yet because of the stress and all the trouble he made for me today after i just opened my eyes so im going to sleep... check here you can see he was ok with 120 euros for paypal i payed 135 euros 15 euros extra cuz it was btc payment if you dont like a service you dont tip extra. you can check in the photos the exact amount i payed for ordering codes that he wanted for payment.. and you can see instantly after payment i only receive 1 email of the accounts which wasn't mentioned before he receive the codes and then i also find out i cannot change email of the both accounts because it been changed already soon enough and its locked for 7 days... if i knew about the email and stuff i would never buy from him he didnt told me anything also about this before payment.
 

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I also got scammed for 30$ by this guy: Shaolin#9124 at discord exactly same time i was talking with this godx guy and i asked help from godx to report this shaoling guy he helped me and shaoling got banned but today he abused me for getting scammed and insulted me for being a kid and getting scammed or crying w/e i'm just wondering how can i be scammer when i already got scammed twice by this two sellers that i found on epic npc, here is the proves about shaolin also:
 

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And just right now after posting all of this someone so suspect added me on discord right now and here is the whole conversation ... idk whats going on.
 

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I wish you guys a great night please hear my words too if anything was needed feel free to ask me i provide instantly when i see the message there is a high chance this seller hide most of the conversation and dont show it to you guys so he can make it all my fault so i can prove everything i said easily and as i said few times please tell him if he is real and not scammer after he break the deal he could pay the money back and get his account back threating me for banning my 2 accounts after holding my 135 euros has consequences for him too if i have 2 accounts on warmane he has more than 6,7 accounts there if i'm getting banned he must get banned there too if i'm the buyer he is the one who sold me the account so if selling accounts on warmane is illegal its illegal for both sides of the deal buyer and seller not just for buyer if he keep acting like this then i do the same ofcourse, i just looking for a fair answer tomorrow to get rid of this situation otherwise if i have to fight for what is mine then im always ready for it i did nothing wrong to be scared.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lolwestie-breaks-the-deal.2184700/page-2
U are so desperate and miserable, to scam 60 euro you make such a scenario, I don't care at all. I have job, wife and kid, Don't care about your opinion, u are miserable for real, I feel sorry for your being. Im glad to get your accounts banned as soon as Warmane check my tickets. Im leaving you to spamm and spread fake bullshits all day long enjoy. I have life to do. Cya and enjoy your ban, glad that you showed your scammer side.
 
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Well how raged you are and the insults you just throughing right now in the chat show's that who's the scammer and the bad guy, what did you said to warmane? i took 135 euros from someone and i sold my account to him now i want you guys to ban him so i can eat his money to get some belly or smth? why should i even care about 60euros tip when i already payed double of it, as i said few times all i wanted was refund and i give accounts back if your not happy with the deal or give me email of both accounts and safety or any guarantee that tells me my account is secured and i dont see threats about getting banned like that thats it i told you about that before payment and you was agreed with it then you changed the deal instantly after you received the money you didnt gave me full details i couldnt change the details the fake admin that added me on discord few minutes ago on discord was you too, and if i lose the account and my money both i make sure you lose your accounts permanently by ip at warmane too and at the end if it was needed i swear to my mom life i spend thousands if its needed and i meet you there in belgium so we can finish the deal.
 
Keep threating maybe you earn something bro you cannot refuse anything here, even the 60 euros tips that you are talking about was promised by me 7 days after the payment whenever i could change email of the both accounts i got over 10x confirmation of your words about this agreement you asked for it at day 2 i refused so we can see what happend usually scammers are like that. gn mate
 
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And just for letting you guys know this guy changed his identities on discrod right now he was from belgium but now he is a russian guy so his discord is not godx anymore thats always what scammers do.
 

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So the first account he gave me has been recovered by the first owner this account that this seller godx sold me is already someone else account i was just ingame i got disconnected and i saw that email has been changed here in this photos you can see what was the Seller Godx respond to the situation that happend when i contacted him, i think this should be enough to understand who's guilty.
 

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I only have mage account which worth 70Eur while he recovered the other account and got 135 euros from me while im in his block list he still asking for 60 euros more why this taking so long what proove i should give you guys!?!?! Ban this scammer so customers dont fall into this, he not only insulted me but whole country few times on forums and tickets why is this taking so long?
 

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If you check my last 3 replay images you get your answer, actually you guys didnt even checked a single screen shot that i sent here what proves you need the seller already responded to all of your questions if you check the screen shots that i posted here, please ban this scammer faster so more people like me dont fall into this scam method.
 
@lolwestie I wanted confirmation from Godxz when I asked them directly, but thank you for that input.

@Godxz if you are not the original owner a full refund must be issued as you listed that you were the original owner in your thread, and that falls under false advertisement.
 
Sorry if my relay bothered you but i ony responded because i know if we wait ages you wont get a respond from him, refund? He already ran away with everything and if you check that screen shot that i told you about you can see he said he dont care about epic npc and he just logged out of it he wont check it again, scammers usually ignore everyone and run away after they scam someone they wont stand to answer why they did this or they wont issue any refund.
 
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