I was scammed by Yeahsamekid

[ElevenNA]

Dispute Against

Yeahsamekid

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Information
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Purchase Date: 1/5/2022
Date the problem began:1/7/2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Yeahsamekid
Your Instant Messenger ID:

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):
Approximate value of property: $133.42
Was Trade Guardian used?
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
I bought a valorant account from Yeahsamekid for $130 using btc I have all the evidence if needed but I can no longer access the account I bought because he took it back. I went on the valorant track and noticed someone was playing on the account so it isn't banned or anything. I lost full access to the account, why sell an account and take it back days later???? I submitted my evidence and now idk what to do tbh.

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Proof
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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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[Yeahsamekid]

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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

Didn't read TOS before purchasing account. TOS has always been on my page. I never once said I was original owner, I can't control what happens to account after you buy it. I am a reseller.

EDIT: Nor did we ever agree on a warranty. Warranty must be agreed upon in either site DMs or Discord DM, like stated in my terms of service.

 

[ElevenNA]

this is literally a scam.... why are you selling accounts you don't own? So you're telling me you get accounts and make people pay for them and tell the original owners to take the accounts back?? like, am I missing something, or is this a scam.. SO if you don't purchase his warranty "we" the buyers take on the risk of getting the account we bought getting taken away? This isn't right at all, clearly a scam through and through.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

What would I gain for telling the original owners to pull their account back? Like I said, read TOS before you open a dispute. I'm no way in contact with the original owners after I purchase the account from the original owners. I clarify that I am not original owner. You also never asked about the original email or if I was the original owner.

 

[Angel]

What would I gain for telling the original owners to pull their account back? Like I said, read TOS before you open a dispute. I'm no way in contact with the original owners after I purchase the account from the original owners. I clarify that I am not original owner. You also never asked about the original email or if I was the original owner.

You are responsible for what you sell or resell here. Who is the previous account owner? Is he a member here and if yes please post a link with their name

 

[ElevenNA]

What would I gain for telling the original owners to pull their account back? Like I said, read TOS before you open a dispute. I'm no way in contact with the original owners after I purchase the account from the original owners. I clarify that I am not original owner. You also never asked about the original email or if I was the original owner.

I asked if I could change the email and you said yes...that's me asking you if you're the owner. Like bro, you know what you're doing here and it's not right, at this point just want a refund.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

You are responsible for what you sell or resell here. Who is the previous account owner? Is he a member here and if yes please post a link with their name

No he isn't, account was bought off funpay. I can't offer warranty due to people faking account recovery.

 

[ElevenNA]

No he isn't, account was bought off funpay. I can't offer warranty due to people faking account recovery.

how am I faking an account recovery if I can't even login or change the password?? You said I should've read your TOS and bought a warranty and now you're saying you don't offer one because the account was bought on funpay? Let me ask you this, did you state the account was bought on funpay in the post? NO you didn't. Stop back peddling and just make this right.

I submitted the evidence, as you can see I tried to login and I couldn't. So I proceeded to try to change the password and it said it will send an email. I checked my email and I didn't receive the password change request because the account was recovered by riot support. I have no reason to lie and I showed you all my evidence.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

how am I faking an account recovery if I can't even login or change the password?? You said I should've read your TOS and bought a warranty and now you're saying you don't offer one because the account was bought on funpay? Let me ask you this, did you state the account was bought on funpay in the post? NO you didn't. Stop back peddling and just make this right.

I submitted the evidence, as you can see I tried to login and I couldn't. So I proceeded to try to change the password and it said it will send an email. I checked my email and I didn't receive the password change request because the account was recovered by riot support. I have no reason to lie and I showed you all my evidence.

I never once said you you faked an account recovery. I usually never offer warranty not because the account was bought off warranty but because there's always a possibility the account recovery is faked, unless the purchase of the account is over $80 AND we agree on one because like I said, I'm not very keen on warranty unless I'm selling to people with some sort of reputation. Also you asking if email is changeable is not asking if I'm original owner.

 

[ElevenNA]

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My guy, I bought the account from you for $130 in btc fair and square. You never stated in the sales post that the account might get revoked by the original owner. If your buyers knew you weren't the original owner who would buy from you? Like the mod said you are responsible for the accounts you sell.

btw you had the security pin to change the email..... listen there's a difference between the owner and the original owner. You were the owner of the account when you sold it, just like I'm now the owner of the account when I bought it from you. You're taking zero accountability as a seller. You can't just go around selling accounts and collecting funds from members of this website and tell them "oh we aren't responsible for what happens next" like bro that's bs and you know it. I'm calling it what it is and it's a scam. I dropped nothing but evidence with my screenshots and pictures and you provided nothing but a screenshot of a TOS I can't even find on your page. Your original post about the valorant account stated nothing about the risk, all it stated was how you wanted to get paid and your discord.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

My guy, I bought the account from you for $130 in btc fair and square. You never stated in the sales post that the account might get revoked by the original owner. If your buyers knew you weren't the original owner who would buy from you? Like the mod said you are responsible for the accounts you sell.

btw you had the security pin to change the email..... listen there's a difference between the owner and the original owner. You were the owner of the account when you sold it, just like I'm now the owner of the account when I bought it from you. You're taking zero accountability as a seller. You can't just go around selling accounts and collecting funds from members of this website and tell them "oh we aren't responsible for what happens next" like bro that's bs and you know it. I'm calling it what it is and it's a scam. I dropped nothing but evidence with my screenshots and pictures and you provided nothing but a screenshot of a TOS I can't even find on your page. Your original post about the valorant account stated nothing about the risk, all it stated was how you wanted to get paid and your discord.

idk if u know this but most people that I sell to know im not original owner and know its possible to get the account revoked since literally any account you buy has the chance. Idk what secuirty pin ur talking about, I got the same info as you when I bought it. And no there is no difference between me owning and you owning, the only actual owner is the person who made the account in Riots eyes. In order for ME to revoke it I have to have the card info used and transactions.

 

[ElevenNA]

I got a hold of the actual owner and he said the person who sold the account (yeahsamekid) hacked and stole that account. So this is as I expected all along, a scam. Why are you hacking accounts and selling them as your own? Mods doesn't this mean I should get a full refund?

 

[Yeahsamekid]

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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

I got a hold of the actual owner and he said the person who sold the account (yeahsamekid) hacked and stole that account. So this is as I expected all along, a scam. Why are you hacking accounts and selling them as your own? Mods doesn't this mean I should get a full refund?

Like I said I resell accounts I do not hack accounts, someone told me their were original owner on funpay, to my knowledge this account was not hacked. I've sold over 100 accounts and this is the first time someone has complained. Also how did you get a ahold of the owner today? How did the owner contact you if the account was revoked? Discord DM's are from today and you told me the account was revoked a few days ago. And like I said multiple times, I never say accounts are mine, you are the only person I've sold to who thought I was the original owner.

 

[ElevenNA]

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you haven't provided any evidence of your purchase from funpay or the conversation you had with the person you bought the account from. I got in contact with him in game, I added friends when I bought the account from you. I. sent the owner a whisper asking how he got ahold of the account as you can see in the screenshots. He said the account was hacked and he never sold it to anyone. Then I asked for his discord so I can call and talk to him and he agreed. He provided proof of ownership and told me he couldn't give me the account because it was never for sale. And bro you still dodging the question I've been asking you.... why sell an account you don't fully own? You see I've been ****ed over by what you're selling all I'm asking is for you to make it right.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

you haven't provided any evidence of your purchase from funpay or the conversation you had with the person you bought the account from. I got in contact with him in game, I added friends when I bought the account from you. I. sent the owner a whisper asking how he got ahold of the account as you can see in the screenshots. He said the account was hacked and he never sold it to anyone. Then I asked for his discord so I can call and talk to him and he agreed. He provided proof of ownership and told me he couldn't give me the account because it was never for sale. And bro you still dodging the question I've been asking you.... why sell an account you don't fully own? You see I've been ****ed over by what you're selling all I'm asking is for you to make it right.

Messages aren't saved on funpay. Most people you buy accounts from don't fully own the accounts. It's how this market and almost every market works. 70% of all accounts are resells. Why would I sell multiple accounts worth $200+ for $80-$100 if I bought the skins? I'd just lose money every time. I'll provide transaction when mod or admin ask.

 

[ElevenNA]

@Angel can you review the evidence submitted

 

[Angel]

This is not the first time that we have had an issue with accounts purchased from that website. Genshin, Valorant, LoL, and a large number of hacked accounts were sold on that website and resold here.

Our members buy them there for cheap without thinking why is the price so low, but everything for profit.

@Yeahsamekid full refund must be issued as your TOS is not worth with obviously recalled accounts

 

[ElevenNA]

thank you @Angel

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

This is not the first time that we have had an issue with accounts purchased from that website. Genshin, Valorant, LoL, and a large number of hacked accounts were sold on that website and resold here.

Our members buy them there for cheap without thinking why is the price so low, but everything for profit.

@Yeahsamekid full refund must be issued as your TOS is not worth with obviously recalled accounts

Account was recalled on the 7th but he got in contact with OGO on the 6th, doesn't make sense to me.

 

[ElevenNA]

Bro, I have nothing but evidence backing up my claim. He said he was just "guessing" and didn't know the exact date. @Angel I have shown you everything and it all lines up. @Yeahsamekid just give me a refund and end this, please.

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

Bro, I have nothing but evidence backing up my claim. He said he was just "guessing" and didn't know the exact date. @Angel I have shown you everything and it all lines up. @Yeahsamekid just give me a refund and end this, please.

give BTC addy

 

[ElevenNA]

give BTC addy

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[Angel]

Any update?

 

[Yeahsamekid]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-was-scammed-by-yeahsamekid.2141166/page-2

Any update?

Refunding within the week.

 

[ElevenNA]

Any update?

Currently just waiting on the refund

 

[ElevenNA]

Any update?

@Angel I wasn't issued a "full" refund. I'm getting the run around about fees. It doesn't cost $50 to send me 0.003 btc which is worth about $124 now. I paid less than $2 in fees when I sent it to @Yeahsamekid. I'm not responsible for the platform he chooses to use when sending and receiving crypto. Fees being 20-4% at that price point is unheard of. I've been in crypto a long time and I know bullshit when I see it. I've made many transactions and I was never met with such unreasonable fees. I sent $1677 btc and look at the fees..... literally cost me nothing. @Angel I just want what I paid which was 0.003 btc and that's it nothing more nothing less.

 

[ElevenNA]

Refunding within the week.

no refund was provided @Angel

 

[Adoxia]

@Yeahsamekid Update. It has been a week.

 

[ElevenNA]

@Yeahsamekid Update. It has been a week.

@Adoxia I didn't receive a full refund. I sent $133 in btc which is worth $129 now and I only got back $75... I'm missing $54.

 

[Angel]

@Yeahsamekid

 

[ElevenNA]

@Yeahsamekid

he completely stopped responding @Angel so idk what the deal is now.

 

[ElevenNA]

@Angel and @Adoxia it's unlikely I'll receive the rest of my refund.

 

[Adoxia]

@Yeahsamekid Ban in 24 hours if no update. We have given you more then enough time to respond. We have extended it already due to the partial refund that was given however if the rest is not given you will be banned.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

banned

Yeahsamekid
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