I have a gentleman who paid with an echeck but is a member of another mmo sell/buy site. This makes me very uneasy so I made sure I did a couple things to ensure my safety.
1)DID NOT GIVE THE INFO OR DO THE ACCOUNT XFER!
2) I refunded the original echeck and instead I sent a money request saying "This is for the purchase of the wow battlechest with a complimentary world of warcraft character"
3) I explained to him I would be mailing and insuring the battlechest set to him and once the check clears and I mail it then I would do the account xfer etc.
Does anyone know if I have successfully met PayPal's requirements to protect myself in case of a chargeback? Because once I xfer the character to the new account I'll be screwed if he pulls that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Thanks, Mikey
Just in case someone is that interested/helpful here's the aim convo ( I have trillian so yes my sn is mdbak3r but it appears as my computer's name "bond" )
[17:40] Shenaniganz1988: Rogue still for sale?
[17:40] *** Auto-response sent to Shenaniganz1988: Taking a shower BRB
[18:01] Bond: Hey sorry I went to go pick up my girlffriend but yes it still is for sale
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: $150?
[18:02] Bond: Yes
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: what a deal
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: All i have to do is buy new accounts?
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: pvp server i think right?
[18:03] Bond: yes pvp and just xfer off he's yours. Two reasons one I lost my job and I'm behind on bills and two since I made horde main to play with my bro the rogue has been played maybe once a month lol
[18:03] Shenaniganz1988: Nice
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: well, i work all week, but sounds like a deal. Is paypal ok with you?
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: Im just going to use him to gank my friends.
[18:04] Bond: Yeah that'd be great
[18:04] Bond: Can you bump my thread real quick
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: im not on that site anymore v.v
[18:04] Bond: Oh oh I see
[18:05] Shenaniganz1988: so i will buy a new account and then you just have to give me your name and waht not, because to transfer accounts it has to be in the same name.
[18:06] Bond: Correct if you want I have a seller I use online to buy keys etc. from if you want me to give you his sn
[18:06] Shenaniganz1988: Really? how does that work?
[18:06] Bond: actually he's not on atm
[18:07] Shenaniganz1988: Its all lagit?
[18:07] Bond: Yeah he's a md seller with a huge rep but he's not on let me see if I can find someone else real quick
[18:08] Shenaniganz1988: That would save a lot of time. If i have to buy an account it will not happen till this weekend.
[18:09] Bond: Yeah I'll look or I'll run up to walmart for you and buy a battle chest it's $40 and let you play the rogue if you'd like but I'm sure I can find someone online
[18:10] Shenaniganz1988: The chest has the xpac?
[18:10] Bond: Yeah it has both wow original and tbc keys in it
[18:11] Shenaniganz1988: Thats fine with me. i can send you teh $190 now then.
[18:11] Bond: Ok I can do that I'll go to walmart now if you'd like and we'll forget finding someone online.
[18:11] Shenaniganz1988: Sounds like a plan.
[18:12] Shenaniganz1988: Jus give me a shout when you get back.
[18:12] Shenaniganz1988: whats your paypal info
[18:12] Bond: [email protected]
[18:13] Shenaniganz1988: Sent.
[18:15] Bond: Oh it's an echeck. I didn't realize that.
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: ya?
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: thats all i know how to use....
[18:15] Bond: Well there's major issues with echecks and scams in the selling communities
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: Uhh....
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: I already sent it?
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: I'm not sure you to cancel it.
[18:16] Bond: I refunded it.
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: Hold on a sec.
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: Let me see if i can see how to check a refund.
[18:17] Bond: kk
[18:17] Shenaniganz1988: Ok it says Canceled in the status
[18:17] Shenaniganz1988: How would you like me to send it?
[18:18] Bond: Well let me check. Sorry I'm not trying to call you a scammer or even imply that it's just I've lost two accounts because people will pay echeck and cancel it. Let me look real quick
[18:18] Shenaniganz1988: Thats cool man.
[18:18] Shenaniganz1988: How ever makes you happy.
[18:21] Bond: Hey I'm going to try this, I'll send a payment request and see if that changes anything
[18:22] Shenaniganz1988: ok
[18:22] Shenaniganz1988: [email protected]
[18:24] Bond: k I sent it let's see if that works any different
[18:25] Bond: Cause if I remember correctly when you pay for something with paypal and don't have immediate funds it pulls the funds from your bank and makes an immediate payment instead of an echeck
[18:25] Shenaniganz1988: ok
[18:26] Shenaniganz1988: Good?
[18:27] Bond: It did the samething but here's what I can do
[18:27] Shenaniganz1988: Why dont you hold on to the cd key and secret PW till it clears?
[18:28] Bond: The problem is I'm broke and can'
[18:28] Bond: t pay for the xfer and account but here's what I can do
[18:28] Shenaniganz1988: I can pay for the transfer
[18:28] Bond: There's a seller protection option
[18:29] Shenaniganz1988: I have had my account jacked also...not a fun thing.
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: The guy gave me a bogus secret pw and i never thought to check
[18:30] Bond: Basically I'm going to cancel it one more time and what I'll do is to be protected I have to sell you a tangible item. So on the 22nd when it clears, if you'd still like the account, I will mail you the tbc and wow battlechest box with the account as a free bonus and I'll pay for insurance and for paypal purposes that's a tangible sale that I'm protected in
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: Hold on a sec
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: Cant you just wait till the check clears?
[18:31] Bond: When your transaction is eligible for Seller Protection Policy coverage, you won’t be held liable if your buyer files a claim or chargeback indicating that they didn’t receive the item or the payment was not authorized. PayPal will cover the costs associated with these types of claims or chargebacks.
To be eligible for Seller Protection Policy coverage:
* Sell a tangible item using a Verified Business or Premier account
* Provide timely shipment to a buyer’s Confirmed Address
* Retain reasonable proof of delivery that can be tracked online
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: That i just sent?
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Nice
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Like i said
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: I dont care.
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Just so you fell covered
[18:32] Bond: I have to meet those standards in order to protect myself. So I can cancel it one more time and say this time the sale is for "tbc and wow" and the account is a free bonus
[18:32] Bond: kk I'l do that
[18:32] Shenaniganz1988: Alright
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: well it says you have been pay'd 190
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: nvm
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: its from you
[18:36] Bond: k there we go I re-requested and the note just basically says what paypal wants to hear to protect my end. So on the 22nd when it clears I'll create the new account and xfer the rogue over and I'll also be mailing you the original boxes and I'll insure for like 1$ lol and paypal will be happy
[18:36] Shenaniganz1988: Ok.
[18:37] Shenaniganz1988: You have been paid
[18:38] Bond: kk thanks and here's my number just incase you have any questions between now and the 22nd. (xxx)770-xxxx, my emails are [email protected] and [email protected], and you can also reach me here
[18:38] Shenaniganz1988: Alright
1)DID NOT GIVE THE INFO OR DO THE ACCOUNT XFER!
2) I refunded the original echeck and instead I sent a money request saying "This is for the purchase of the wow battlechest with a complimentary world of warcraft character"
3) I explained to him I would be mailing and insuring the battlechest set to him and once the check clears and I mail it then I would do the account xfer etc.
Does anyone know if I have successfully met PayPal's requirements to protect myself in case of a chargeback? Because once I xfer the character to the new account I'll be screwed if he pulls that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
Thanks, Mikey
Just in case someone is that interested/helpful here's the aim convo ( I have trillian so yes my sn is mdbak3r but it appears as my computer's name "bond" )
[17:40] Shenaniganz1988: Rogue still for sale?
[17:40] *** Auto-response sent to Shenaniganz1988: Taking a shower BRB
[18:01] Bond: Hey sorry I went to go pick up my girlffriend but yes it still is for sale
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: $150?
[18:02] Bond: Yes
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: what a deal
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: All i have to do is buy new accounts?
[18:02] Shenaniganz1988: pvp server i think right?
[18:03] Bond: yes pvp and just xfer off he's yours. Two reasons one I lost my job and I'm behind on bills and two since I made horde main to play with my bro the rogue has been played maybe once a month lol
[18:03] Shenaniganz1988: Nice
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: well, i work all week, but sounds like a deal. Is paypal ok with you?
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: Im just going to use him to gank my friends.
[18:04] Bond: Yeah that'd be great
[18:04] Bond: Can you bump my thread real quick
[18:04] Shenaniganz1988: im not on that site anymore v.v
[18:04] Bond: Oh oh I see
[18:05] Shenaniganz1988: so i will buy a new account and then you just have to give me your name and waht not, because to transfer accounts it has to be in the same name.
[18:06] Bond: Correct if you want I have a seller I use online to buy keys etc. from if you want me to give you his sn
[18:06] Shenaniganz1988: Really? how does that work?
[18:06] Bond: actually he's not on atm
[18:07] Shenaniganz1988: Its all lagit?
[18:07] Bond: Yeah he's a md seller with a huge rep but he's not on let me see if I can find someone else real quick
[18:08] Shenaniganz1988: That would save a lot of time. If i have to buy an account it will not happen till this weekend.
[18:09] Bond: Yeah I'll look or I'll run up to walmart for you and buy a battle chest it's $40 and let you play the rogue if you'd like but I'm sure I can find someone online
[18:10] Shenaniganz1988: The chest has the xpac?
[18:10] Bond: Yeah it has both wow original and tbc keys in it
[18:11] Shenaniganz1988: Thats fine with me. i can send you teh $190 now then.
[18:11] Bond: Ok I can do that I'll go to walmart now if you'd like and we'll forget finding someone online.
[18:11] Shenaniganz1988: Sounds like a plan.
[18:12] Shenaniganz1988: Jus give me a shout when you get back.
[18:12] Shenaniganz1988: whats your paypal info
[18:12] Bond: [email protected]
[18:13] Shenaniganz1988: Sent.
[18:15] Bond: Oh it's an echeck. I didn't realize that.
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: ya?
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: thats all i know how to use....
[18:15] Bond: Well there's major issues with echecks and scams in the selling communities
[18:15] Shenaniganz1988: Uhh....
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: I already sent it?
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: I'm not sure you to cancel it.
[18:16] Bond: I refunded it.
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: Hold on a sec.
[18:16] Shenaniganz1988: Let me see if i can see how to check a refund.
[18:17] Bond: kk
[18:17] Shenaniganz1988: Ok it says Canceled in the status
[18:17] Shenaniganz1988: How would you like me to send it?
[18:18] Bond: Well let me check. Sorry I'm not trying to call you a scammer or even imply that it's just I've lost two accounts because people will pay echeck and cancel it. Let me look real quick
[18:18] Shenaniganz1988: Thats cool man.
[18:18] Shenaniganz1988: How ever makes you happy.
[18:21] Bond: Hey I'm going to try this, I'll send a payment request and see if that changes anything
[18:22] Shenaniganz1988: ok
[18:22] Shenaniganz1988: [email protected]
[18:24] Bond: k I sent it let's see if that works any different
[18:25] Bond: Cause if I remember correctly when you pay for something with paypal and don't have immediate funds it pulls the funds from your bank and makes an immediate payment instead of an echeck
[18:25] Shenaniganz1988: ok
[18:26] Shenaniganz1988: Good?
[18:27] Bond: It did the samething but here's what I can do
[18:27] Shenaniganz1988: Why dont you hold on to the cd key and secret PW till it clears?
[18:28] Bond: The problem is I'm broke and can'
[18:28] Bond: t pay for the xfer and account but here's what I can do
[18:28] Shenaniganz1988: I can pay for the transfer
[18:28] Bond: There's a seller protection option
[18:29] Shenaniganz1988: I have had my account jacked also...not a fun thing.
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: The guy gave me a bogus secret pw and i never thought to check
[18:30] Bond: Basically I'm going to cancel it one more time and what I'll do is to be protected I have to sell you a tangible item. So on the 22nd when it clears, if you'd still like the account, I will mail you the tbc and wow battlechest box with the account as a free bonus and I'll pay for insurance and for paypal purposes that's a tangible sale that I'm protected in
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: Hold on a sec
[18:30] Shenaniganz1988: Cant you just wait till the check clears?
[18:31] Bond: When your transaction is eligible for Seller Protection Policy coverage, you won’t be held liable if your buyer files a claim or chargeback indicating that they didn’t receive the item or the payment was not authorized. PayPal will cover the costs associated with these types of claims or chargebacks.
To be eligible for Seller Protection Policy coverage:
* Sell a tangible item using a Verified Business or Premier account
* Provide timely shipment to a buyer’s Confirmed Address
* Retain reasonable proof of delivery that can be tracked online
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: That i just sent?
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Nice
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Like i said
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: I dont care.
[18:31] Shenaniganz1988: Just so you fell covered
[18:32] Bond: I have to meet those standards in order to protect myself. So I can cancel it one more time and say this time the sale is for "tbc and wow" and the account is a free bonus
[18:32] Bond: kk I'l do that
[18:32] Shenaniganz1988: Alright
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: well it says you have been pay'd 190
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: nvm
[18:33] Shenaniganz1988: its from you
[18:36] Bond: k there we go I re-requested and the note just basically says what paypal wants to hear to protect my end. So on the 22nd when it clears I'll create the new account and xfer the rogue over and I'll also be mailing you the original boxes and I'll insure for like 1$ lol and paypal will be happy
[18:36] Shenaniganz1988: Ok.
[18:37] Shenaniganz1988: You have been paid
[18:38] Bond: kk thanks and here's my number just incase you have any questions between now and the 22nd. (xxx)770-xxxx, my emails are [email protected] and [email protected], and you can also reach me here
[18:38] Shenaniganz1988: Alright
