So i whas selling 75RDM FFXI account
and this "Bobby" approach me, we had a little discussion and i explained to him why i dont accept Paypal.
so he suggested Western Union, i didnt know what it whas, so i asked a friend.
Then this Bobby he asks me too give him account details upfront so he can verify i own it.
i told him i cant do that, but i have other suggestions, like Remote control desktop help, so he can view when i logon into ffxi and view account. i also suggested that i can take a customized screenshots on hes requests.
here is the last log i talked with him, i also talked with him on the phone, he seems like a nice guy.
please im not suggesting hes a scammer, hes just hell of a fishy guy, he also uses Paypal logo in hes msn avatar (i though this guy must be an expert con artist judging by hes logo)
please judge for your self
Bobby säger:
Hello
Bobby säger:
Still selling your account?
Billy säger:
hey
Billy säger:
yes but i cant find account so u canlogon
Billy säger:
but i have this idea
Billy säger:
we can use Remote control
Billy säger:
on windows
Billy säger:
u can see my desktop
Billy säger:
when i logon
Bobby säger:
Idk
Du har bjudit in Bobby att starta Fjärrhjälp. Invänta svar eller Avbryt (Alt+Q) den väntande inbjudan.
Bobby har tackat nej till din inbjudan att starta Fjärrhjälp.
Billy säger:
ok
Bobby säger:
I heard thats not a good idea
Billy säger:
ohh didnt know
Billy säger:
sorry
Billy säger:
but is there other solution for us
Billy säger:
i know one, ther eis this program desktopcatcher
Billy säger:
i used it long time ago
Billy säger:
it takes screenshot of desktop every X sec
Billy säger:
and upload too ftp
Bobby säger:
=/
Billy säger:
no good?
Billy säger:
im really sorry i just cant hand out information like that
Billy säger:
im trying to figure out how i can verify my account for you
Billy säger:
i hope you understand
Bobby säger:
I totally forgot what account you had?
Billy säger:
RDM75
Billy säger:
on remora
Bobby säger:
Oh yea
Bobby säger:
The pimp one, lol
Billy säger:
yes
Bobby säger:
I can give you all my info
Bobby säger:
So if I do take it, you can get it back
Billy säger:
how do i get it back if i have your info
Bobby säger:
Call POL
Billy säger:
i dont even live in the US
Bobby säger:
You can still call or talk to GM through internet or phone
Billy säger:
no u need Billing
Billy säger:
when u change credit card
Bobby säger:
I can give you that also...
Billy säger:
i cant take back account
Billy säger:
are you crazy? you give me credit card nr
Billy säger:
thats bad idea
Bobby säger:
I can give you the first and last 4 #'s
Bobby säger:
All you need is the first and last for digits
Billy säger:
but how do i know they are real
Bobby säger:
four'
Billy säger:
is there way to verify this?
Bobby säger:
Dont think so
Billy säger:
see we are at position 1 again
Bobby säger:
I'm not trying to scam you man
Billy säger:
its security precautions i take
Billy säger:
i dont blame you at all
Billy säger:
because i have been scammed before
Billy säger:
on Wow account
Billy säger:
same as this
Billy säger:
why is this remote control thing so bad?
Billy säger:
u can see my desktop
Billy säger:
but not control
Bobby säger:
I can get all your info through it..
Bobby säger:
Thats what someone said
Billy säger:
what info
Bobby säger:
CC
Bobby säger:
everything
Billy säger:
i dont have cc stored in my desktop
Billy säger:
nor any sensitive information
Bobby säger:
Well Idk
Bobby säger:
I never done it before
Bobby säger:
But someone told me not to
Billy säger:
well its the only solution i can think of
Billy säger:
u see me live logging into account
Billy säger:
and walking around with it
Billy säger:
and show u eq and stuff
Billy säger:
look u know what E-gold is?
Bobby säger:
Nope
Billy säger:
its sorta like paypal, except it dosent accept credit cards
Billy säger:
and it dosent reverse
Billy säger:
unlike paypal
Bobby säger:
So?
Billy säger:
that is also a solution
Bobby säger:
So you want me to send money, so I cant reverse it?
Bobby säger:
Sounds like a scam
Billy säger:
no i just suggested
Billy säger:
but since you dont accept anything, none of my suggestions
Billy säger:
and do only paypal
Billy säger:
its very fishy
Bobby säger:
Ummm
Billy säger:
see it from my point of view
Bobby säger:
I said I can do Western Union
Bobby säger:
Never said I only had to do Paypal..
Billy säger:
yes but u want account upfront for verification prupouses that i have the account i claim
Billy säger:
right?
Bobby säger:
So, I can claim I am going to send the money
Bobby säger:
and you can claim you have what you say you have
Billy säger:
ok found another idea
Billy säger:
u tell me where to go to a zone
Billy säger:
then do a emote
Billy säger:
and wrote whatever ur name on
Billy säger:
and take screenshot
Bobby säger:
Umm
Bobby säger:
Doesnt mean your going to give me the account
Bobby säger:
Just proves you "have" the account
Billy säger:
well thats what u asked for
Billy säger:
Too verify (too prove)
Bobby säger:
Too "prove" you will give it to me
Billy säger:
ahh so your basically a buyer that wants stuff upfront
Billy säger:
u could have said so from the start
Bobby säger:
Why?
Billy säger:
Do you see how hard it is for a seller to agree on such terms?
Billy säger:
im sorry man, its too fishy. im not calling you a scammer. i just dont like it
Billy säger:
thanks anyways
Bobby säger:
Ok, thanks for wasting my time
and this "Bobby" approach me, we had a little discussion and i explained to him why i dont accept Paypal.
so he suggested Western Union, i didnt know what it whas, so i asked a friend.
Then this Bobby he asks me too give him account details upfront so he can verify i own it.
i told him i cant do that, but i have other suggestions, like Remote control desktop help, so he can view when i logon into ffxi and view account. i also suggested that i can take a customized screenshots on hes requests.
here is the last log i talked with him, i also talked with him on the phone, he seems like a nice guy.
please im not suggesting hes a scammer, hes just hell of a fishy guy, he also uses Paypal logo in hes msn avatar (i though this guy must be an expert con artist judging by hes logo)
please judge for your self
Bobby säger:
Hello
Bobby säger:
Still selling your account?
Billy säger:
hey
Billy säger:
yes but i cant find account so u canlogon
Billy säger:
but i have this idea
Billy säger:
we can use Remote control
Billy säger:
on windows
Billy säger:
u can see my desktop
Billy säger:
when i logon
Bobby säger:
Idk
Du har bjudit in Bobby att starta Fjärrhjälp. Invänta svar eller Avbryt (Alt+Q) den väntande inbjudan.
Bobby har tackat nej till din inbjudan att starta Fjärrhjälp.
Billy säger:
ok
Bobby säger:
I heard thats not a good idea
Billy säger:
ohh didnt know
Billy säger:
sorry
Billy säger:
but is there other solution for us
Billy säger:
i know one, ther eis this program desktopcatcher
Billy säger:
i used it long time ago
Billy säger:
it takes screenshot of desktop every X sec
Billy säger:
and upload too ftp
Bobby säger:
=/
Billy säger:
no good?
Billy säger:
im really sorry i just cant hand out information like that
Billy säger:
im trying to figure out how i can verify my account for you
Billy säger:
i hope you understand
Bobby säger:
I totally forgot what account you had?
Billy säger:
RDM75
Billy säger:
on remora
Bobby säger:
Oh yea
Bobby säger:
The pimp one, lol
Billy säger:
yes
Bobby säger:
I can give you all my info
Bobby säger:
So if I do take it, you can get it back
Billy säger:
how do i get it back if i have your info
Bobby säger:
Call POL
Billy säger:
i dont even live in the US
Bobby säger:
You can still call or talk to GM through internet or phone
Billy säger:
no u need Billing
Billy säger:
when u change credit card
Bobby säger:
I can give you that also...
Billy säger:
i cant take back account
Billy säger:
are you crazy? you give me credit card nr
Billy säger:
thats bad idea
Bobby säger:
I can give you the first and last 4 #'s
Bobby säger:
All you need is the first and last for digits
Billy säger:
but how do i know they are real
Bobby säger:
four'
Billy säger:
is there way to verify this?
Bobby säger:
Dont think so
Billy säger:
see we are at position 1 again
Bobby säger:
I'm not trying to scam you man
Billy säger:
its security precautions i take
Billy säger:
i dont blame you at all
Billy säger:
because i have been scammed before
Billy säger:
on Wow account
Billy säger:
same as this
Billy säger:
why is this remote control thing so bad?
Billy säger:
u can see my desktop
Billy säger:
but not control
Bobby säger:
I can get all your info through it..
Bobby säger:
Thats what someone said
Billy säger:
what info
Bobby säger:
CC
Bobby säger:
everything
Billy säger:
i dont have cc stored in my desktop
Billy säger:
nor any sensitive information
Bobby säger:
Well Idk
Bobby säger:
I never done it before
Bobby säger:
But someone told me not to
Billy säger:
well its the only solution i can think of
Billy säger:
u see me live logging into account
Billy säger:
and walking around with it
Billy säger:
and show u eq and stuff
Billy säger:
look u know what E-gold is?
Bobby säger:
Nope
Billy säger:
its sorta like paypal, except it dosent accept credit cards
Billy säger:
and it dosent reverse
Billy säger:
unlike paypal
Bobby säger:
So?
Billy säger:
that is also a solution
Bobby säger:
So you want me to send money, so I cant reverse it?
Bobby säger:
Sounds like a scam
Billy säger:
no i just suggested
Billy säger:
but since you dont accept anything, none of my suggestions
Billy säger:
and do only paypal
Billy säger:
its very fishy
Bobby säger:
Ummm
Billy säger:
see it from my point of view
Bobby säger:
I said I can do Western Union
Bobby säger:
Never said I only had to do Paypal..
Billy säger:
yes but u want account upfront for verification prupouses that i have the account i claim
Billy säger:
right?
Bobby säger:
So, I can claim I am going to send the money
Bobby säger:
and you can claim you have what you say you have
Billy säger:
ok found another idea
Billy säger:
u tell me where to go to a zone
Billy säger:
then do a emote
Billy säger:
and wrote whatever ur name on
Billy säger:
and take screenshot
Bobby säger:
Umm
Bobby säger:
Doesnt mean your going to give me the account
Bobby säger:
Just proves you "have" the account
Billy säger:
well thats what u asked for
Billy säger:
Too verify (too prove)
Bobby säger:
Too "prove" you will give it to me
Billy säger:
ahh so your basically a buyer that wants stuff upfront
Billy säger:
u could have said so from the start
Bobby säger:
Why?
Billy säger:
Do you see how hard it is for a seller to agree on such terms?
Billy säger:
im sorry man, its too fishy. im not calling you a scammer. i just dont like it
Billy säger:
thanks anyways
Bobby säger:
Ok, thanks for wasting my time