Apex Legends account recover and Selling again on EpicNPC - Recall Scammer

[Milyem]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 21.08.2022
Date the problem began: 08.09.2022 (At least when I realised
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] Dolvah#8528
Your Instant Messenger ID: Milyem#1974

Other information: My account is on sale now on this link. https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/%F0%9F%94%A5-apex-legends-account-octane-butterfly-knife-heirloom-53-legendaries-65-%F0%9F%94%A5.2319300/


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pc-selling-cheap-octane-heirloom-account-with-current-pass-active-70.2305674/
Approximate value of property: $60.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Delac

What is the dispute about? There is a recall after 2 weeks.

Other details / notes:


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof:
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/%F0%9F%94%A5-apex-legends-account-octane-butterfly-knife-heirloom-53-legendaries-65-%F0%9F%94%A5.2319300/
This guy Loyal Human is selling my bought account which is recalled. You can simply compare total legendaries and active Octane legendary skins.
Here you can see the legendary skins and Apex coins and craft materials which I bought. Please also look exact Octane skins.

And here you can see on this on sale account legendaries and apex coins and craft materials. (I played 2 weeks that's why Apex coins increased and there is 1 more legendary. 100 coins from battle pass)

He didn't wrote the level on this account. It should be around 120 level because of I played 2 weeks. It was 113 level when I bought and there were 52 legendary. Proof by MM Delac.

And here you can see how many legendaries on this account which Loyal Human selling.

I don't know who made recall. Is it Dolvah or Loyal Human. But the thing which I know Dolvah bought this account around 2 weeks ago before he sold me. And Loyal Human sold an account with octane heirloom around 11-14.08.2022 (Post create and edit time) which you can see here https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sold.2295363/ . No information but look the tags which he forgot to delete.

And somehow Dolvah bought an account around 12.08.2022, you can see on this post. https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/looking-to-buy-cheap-octane-heirloom-account-for-pc.2297211/ You can see that all related each other.

This should not be that easy at least on this platform after recall trying to sell easily without any punishment.


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) MM provide me email and password. And I have changed email and ID.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 2 weeks
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Dolvah

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Dolvah

 

[Milyem]

He deleted me from friends and even not accepting my friend request.

And according to EA website they need email, id or invoice to recover account. I have changed ID and email. There is only invoice left. How we can avoid recover from invoice invoice don't know.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Dolvah email notified

 

[Angel]

@Dolvah 24 hrs

 

[Angel]

Banned

[email protected]
Dolvah#8528

@Loyal Human can you explain how did you obtain this account https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/🔥-a...y-knife-heirloom-53-legendaries-60-🔥.2319300/

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

Banned

[email protected]
Dolvah#8528

@Loyal Human can you explain how did you obtain this account https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/-apex-legends-account-octane-butterfly-knife-heirloom-53-legendaries-60-.2319300/

well this account is one of my smurfs that i got heirloom on and i haven't tried to sell it or sold it before as this guy claiming or thinking
and yes i did sell very similar account to Dolvah and by similar i mean account that shares same skins for octane specifically it was level 106 i believe so very close level to the account i'm selling now which's 122
i have a lot of accounts that i got legends edition packs on and share the same skins or i bought the same skins for
but also i gave Dolvah the first email ( the one the account was created on with the welcome message in it ) just like the owner i bought the account from gave it to me
also i had the same experience with Dolvah when he bought the account i was so gentle and nice with him i even ended our chat wishing him good luck and that i'm happy to know him like the usual good guy would say he didn't answer
and i was checking 2 days later i found that he deleted me from friends and week or less i saw him selling the account again and looking for another account with the same budget

i have no idea why i have warning on my name now also the message he left on my thread haven't gotten deleted and i lost a buyer because of it and now with this yellow warning my reputation is pretty much done

 

[Milyem]

well this account is one of my smurfs that i got heirloom on and i haven't tried to sell it or sold it before as this guy claiming or thinking
and yes i did sell very similar account to Dolvah and by similar i mean account that shares same skins for octane specifically it was level 106 i believe so very close level to the account i'm selling now which's 122
i have a lot of accounts that i got legends edition packs on and share the same skins or i bought the same skins for
but also i gave Dolvah the first email ( the one the account was created on with the welcome message in it ) just like the owner i bought the account from gave it to me
also i had the same experience with Dolvah when he bought the account i was so gentle and nice with him i even ended our chat wishing him good luck and that i'm happy to know him like the usual good guy would say he didn't answer
and i was checking 2 days later i found that he deleted me from friends and week or less i saw him selling the account again and looking for another account with the same budget

i have no idea why i have warning on my name now also the message he left on my thread haven't gotten deleted and i lost a buyer because of it and now with this yellow warning my reputation is pretty much done

Because of I bought from Dolvah I opened dispute against him. But everybody can understand similarity of both account is not a luck. Your account is 122 level because I played with that account for 2 weeks and it was 113 level when I bought. See the image from MM during our puchase process. https://postimg.cc/GBwNsC85
How it can be possible as you mention (just luck and similarity)
- All Octane legendaries are exactly same
- Total legendary is only 1 more because of I played and reach battle pass level 25 and get Wraith legendary skin. (you have also same)
- All coins are very close because of I played 2 weeks increasement can be seen easily. 100 apex coins extra because of battle pass 21.
- There were also 2 skydives on my and your account and one of them was on my account octane is using leg as heli blade.
- The account had both Lifeline and Bloodhound package.
- When I bought the account the rank was Rookie 4 and I played around Silver 2 something like this.
- I had a battle pass which is mentioned by Dolvah

If you want to proof, show us now all the things below. (Any of them you didn't mentioned on your text or can't seen on your pictures, so all of then I give the information from my account)
- Your battle pass (bought or not)
- Your battle pass level (I was around 25 and got Wraith legendary skin.)
- Octane skydivings on your account. (I remember at least 1 with Leg as heli like I mention above)
- Your actual ranking
- Octane banners (I have a picture with shark teeth legendary banner and shark teeth is not coming with heirloom.)

If all the things I mentioned here is completely same and if you still say all of them is luck, I leave the decision to the others. As an Engineer I can say there is no that possibility to all of them is same just as luck

Good luck to you

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

Because of I bought from Dolvah I opened dispute against him. But everybody can understand similarity of both account is not a luck. Your account is 122 level because I played with that account for 2 weeks and it was 113 level when I bought. See the image from MM during our puchase process. https://postimg.cc/GBwNsC85
How it can be possible as you mention (just luck and similarity)
- All Octane legendaries are exactly same
- Total legendary is only 1 more because of I played and reach battle pass level 25 and get Wraith legendary skin. (you have also same)
- All coins are very close because of I played 2 weeks increasement can be seen easily. 100 apex coins extra because of battle pass 21.
- There were also 2 skydives on my and your account and one of them was on my account octane is using leg as heli blade.
- The account had both Lifeline and Bloodhound package.
- When I bought the account the rank was Rookie 4 and I played around Silver 2 something like this.
- I had a battle pass which is mentioned by Dolvah

If you want to proof, show us now all the things below. (Any of them you didn't mentioned on your text or can't seen on your pictures, so all of then I give the information from my account)
- Your battle pass (bought or not)
- Your battle pass level (I was around 25 and got Wraith legendary skin.)
- Octane skydivings on your account. (I remember at least 1 with Leg as heli like I mention above)
- Your actual ranking
- Octane banners (I have a picture with shark teeth legendary banner and shark teeth is not coming with heirloom.)

If all the things I mentioned here is completely same and if you still say all of them is luck, I leave the decision to the others. As an Engineer I can say there is no that possibility to all of them is same just as luck

Good luck to you

all the things you mentioned doesn't have anything to do with my account and i have already posted so many photos of the current account im selling multiple times last time was today trying to dodge your false comment with a new thread until the admins take action about it but i deleted the thread once i noticed i got warning so i don't hurt my reputation any further and kept the one in the dispute so you can easily tell what's exactly in the account and continue to throw false accusations at me
you didn't have any proof other than octane skins and now you came up with everything i showed in the photos
look i totally understand how you feel but i stand by what i said those are totally different accounts even if they share some skins that doesn't proof your point
i have nothing to do with you or dolvah the moment i sold him the account i have 0 control over it he has the first email and nobody can take it back other than him and he already unfriended you and clearly ran away with your money

good luck to you too friend

 

[Milyem]

all the things you mentioned doesn't have anything to do with my account and i have already posted so many photos of the current account im selling multiple times last time was today trying to dodge your false comment with a new thread until the admins take action about it but i deleted the thread once i noticed i got warning so i don't hurt my reputation any further and kept the one in the dispute so you can easily tell what's exactly in the account and continue to throw false accusations at me
you didn't have any proof other than octane skins and now you came up with everything i showed in the photos
look i totally understand how you feel but i stand by what i said those are totally different accounts even if they share some skins that doesn't proof your point
i have nothing to do with you or dolvah the moment i sold him the account i have 0 control over it he has the first email and nobody can take it back other than him and he already unfriended you and clearly ran away with your money

good luck to you too friend

In the end I didn't blame you directly because of I didn't buy directly from you. But Moderators asked you a question and you refuse to answer and simply saying bla bla bla. You are saying smurf account but you have a battle pass inside and you don't show the level etc...

I gave all my proofs. Decision by the management. Done.

Btw I don't care a lot. I already contacted EA and created a ticket ban my account which is recalled because of selling account is also illegal. I will remind them again a few days later. We will see

 

[Milyem]

all the things you mentioned doesn't have anything to do with my account and i have already posted so many photos of the current account im selling multiple times last time was today trying to dodge your false comment with a new thread until the admins take action about it but i deleted the thread once i noticed i got warning so i don't hurt my reputation any further and kept the one in the dispute so you can easily tell what's exactly in the account and continue to throw false accusations at me
you didn't have any proof other than octane skins and now you came up with everything i showed in the photos
look i totally understand how you feel but i stand by what i said those are totally different accounts even if they share some skins that doesn't proof your point
i have nothing to do with you or dolvah the moment i sold him the account i have 0 control over it he has the first email and nobody can take it back other than him and he already unfriended you and clearly ran away with your money

good luck to you too friend

If you defend this, can you share with me some information like what is the first email, maybe some more information?

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

In the end I didn't blame you directly because of I didn't buy directly from you. But Moderators asked you a question and you refuse to answer and simply saying bla bla bla. You are saying smurf account but you have a battle pass inside and you don't show the level etc...

I gave all my proofs. Decision by the management. Done.

Btw I don't care a lot. I already contacted EA and created a ticket ban my account which is recalled because of selling account is also illegal. I will remind them again a few days later. We will see

idk which part exactly wasn't clear !! i bought the account from a local guy in my country and he gave me the first email he created the account on with the welcome message from ea and that's what i exactly gave to dolvah when i sold him the account
and this is not my main account it's a smurf i play with it when needed you net picking nonsense that still doesn't proof your point and i did mention in my comment above the account level is 122 and the account i sold to dolvah was 106 which still doesn't have to do anything with the current account i'm selling most account sold in the forum at this level anyway
also i would be more than happy if you managed to get him banned good luck with that let him learn a lesson

 

[Milyem]

idk which part exactly wasn't clear !! i bought the account from a local guy in my country and he gave me the first email he created the account on with the welcome message from ea and that's what i exactly gave to dolvah when i sold him the account
and this is not my main account it's a smurf i play with it when needed you net picking nonsense that still doesn't proof your point and i did mention in my comment above the account level is 122 and the account i sold to dolvah was 106 which still doesn't have to do anything with the current account i'm selling most account sold in the forum at this level anyway
also i would be more than happy if you managed to get him banned good luck with that let him learn a lesson

Ok share with me first email, some information etc.. whatever you know and I will speak with EA again.

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

Ok share with me first email, some information etc.. whatever you know and I will speak with EA again.

sure will send now

Edit : done i've send it to you hope that can help you with your plan

 

[Milyem]

sure will send now

Edit : done i've send it to you hope that can help you with your plan

Unfortunately EA says it is not matching.

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

Unfortunately EA says it is not matching.

well at least we tried
i was hoping that we can revenge in some way but i guess not
unlucky

 

[Milyem]

I am sorry man, you said you provide first email but this is wrong. Then something is not correct here. Management please make your decision.

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

I am sorry man, you said you provide first email but this is wrong. Then something is not correct here. Management please make your decision.

yes this is the first mail and i already tried to help as much as i could there's nothing else really i can do about this case

waiting for admins verdict

 

[Milyem]

yes this is the first mail and i already tried to help as much as i could there's nothing else really i can do about this case

waiting for admins verdict

But EA confirmed that this is not first email. Unfortunately you are lying.

 

[Loyal Human]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/apex-legends-account-recover-and-selling-again-on-epicnpc-recall-scammer.2321341/

But EA confirmed that this is not first email. Unfortunately you are lying.

idk how you thinking why would i offer you help or the email in the first place if i know it's wrong or i'm lying
anyway that's all i can do for this case and admins are the judge it's fine for me either way whatever they decied won't change the fact that i have nothing to do with your loss and it won't be the end of life for me or you

 

[Angel]

@Milyem do you have any more images of this account except Octane character? @Loyal Human please provide me account info in private, i am going to download history data to check previous emails and IP addresses

 

[Milyem]

@Milyem do you have any more images of this account except Octane character? @Loyal Human please provide me account info in private, i am going to download history data to check previous emails and IP addresses

Hi Angel, thank you for your response. That is perfect that you can check previous emails. I am lucky that I used my own email which contains my name and last name. Of course you can also see epicnpc email during our purchase with mm. I am writing emails to your PM now.
Unfortunately I have only 1 picture after winning a game which include Legendary banner and not shown on any of this guys advertisement. Also I mentioned of the Skydive which is also not shown any of his advertisement. Here is the picture of my gameplay. But I think the data from EA will solve all the problem if he provide account information to you. If it's possible to see on data changed nicknames, you will be able to see Milyem there.

 

[Milyem]

Now I start to believe both accounts belong the same guy. Because you see he is not replying anymore and after Angel's request I got this rage from a guy. He just replied after he realized second account will be banned. Maybe it should be not allowed to sell a character which is created less than 6 months etc... otherwise as he mentioned he will continue.

 

[Angel]

@Loyal Human

 

[Angel]

Ban in 24 hrs if no response

 

[Angel]

Banned

[email protected]
Makaroni#9005