Time to Brainstorm to help out a bit around here

[TRIPLESINNER]

well as has been said, traiffic is a little slow to the site, but no one seems to be offering any ideas on how to change this.

now this community is full of smart members, many of whom are able to think outside the box. why dont we use that a bit here to the site's advantage.

post here ideas and helpful (re-read that if you need to HELPFUL being hte key word) thoughts on how the admins and site owners can direct or get more traffic to the forums. lets face it, if you guys want more business from here, you need more people coming here. so help the site help you in return

 

[ShamanDnT1]

If you don't think people have thought about new ideas/are in the process of new ideas by now... then I don't know what to tell you. :\

Not Flaming, Just Saying.

Sadly I think we all know the transformation of the sites in such a short amount of time killed the traffic and the sites.

Users don't like the layout, the choice in moderation, amongst numerous of other things.

If you'll notice rules aren't pertaining to some people -- Being unbanned because your brother is a moderator on this new site? I'm not going to harp on that, but I think we all know who I'm talking about.

 

[Whambulance]

If you don't think people have thought about new ideas/are in the process of new ideas by now... then I don't know what to tell you. :\

Not Flaming, Just Saying.

Sadly I think we all know the transformation of the sites in such a short amount of time killed the traffic and the sites.

Users don't like the layout, the choice in moderation, amongst numerous of other things.

If you'll notice rules aren't pertaining to some people -- Being unbanned because your brother is a moderator on this new site? I'm not going to harp on that, but I think we all know who I'm talking about.

Firstly just so you know atrail was unbanned before btrail became a mod so get your facts straight there, and as far as problems with moderation choices, would you care to elaborate? I can assure you that any ban on this site is done by a majority vote unless it's in direct relation to being proved a scammer. Alot goes on behind the scenes that you as a regular user do not see. Also, who do the rules not pertain to?

 

[ShamanDnT1]

'edit' if you'd like to read it

have a nice day everybody. it's sunny.... go outside... I am...

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

Cool kid.

 

[DarkDeserter]

I'm sure this has been said, but redirect the old site to here.

Bam.

 

[TRIPLESINNER]

that would seem like a really good idea dark tbh

admins?

 

[Kuz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread (http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/461871-scammer-kuz-diablo-3-gold.html)

One problem there. The old mmobay sites traffic was just being redirected from markerdragon.com which if you haven't noticed is it's own forum again just tos violation free.
Mikes doing all he can for the forums he can't just make the search engines put us at #1 overnight

 

[EpicNPC]

I'm sure this has been said, but redirect the old site to here.

Bam.

Redirecting the old UBB forums to the new VB forums isn't going to happen. Its a short term solution that will end up losing traffic in the long run.

 

[J_P_Devil]

I think everyone should chill their damned jets, we are getting ~100-200 transferred over/new every day so wait a few weeks and stop your bitchin. Mike confirm? Only been on vb for a few weeks QQ every1

 

[TRIPLESINNER]

oh im not bitching, or complaining here, i have merely spoken to many people that seem freaked out about it, and in my experience if you can redirect a person's anxiety into something constructive, often times the end results can turn out to be quite amazing. nothing more, nothing less.

 

[ShamanDnT1]

neither am I...

i'm stating my opinion...

that's still allowed in America, right?

 

[Kuz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread (http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/461871-scammer-kuz-diablo-3-gold.html)

neither am I...

i'm stating my opinion...

that's still allowed in America, right?

this is called the internet not America.

and this is called a forum. the right of free speech wont protect you here.

 

[NormanBum]

I think we picked the wrong time to do the forum switch (At the end of a WoW expansion? bad idea). And I do not believe there is being enough done to re-direct people from MD onto MMOBAY.

 

[Durkadur]

We could do some video and pull it on youtube. Im sure that would be a good way to attract some extra traffic!

 

[DarkDeserter]

Redirecting the old UBB forums to the new VB forums isn't going to happen. Its a short term solution that will end up losing traffic in the long run.

How is redirecting http://forums.mmobay.net to our site going to lose people? lol?

 

[HomeGrownCharacters]

People need to pump the brakes here when it comes to complaining... I mean really hasn't everyone seen the spike from 6 people viewing WOW account buy/sell to 9 people viewing it..... It's going to take a lot longer than a couple weeks, most likely a new expansion will help the site out but until then who knows. I'm not going to point out the obvious though because hopefully everyone can already see that. Some changes need to be made and here are my honest opinions on the matter.

My Suggestions:
~ Change backdrop (already being changed)
~ Eventually delete the old forums or redirect them to here
~ Video on youtube showing the forums are up and running
~ Contact original members of Markee Dragon to see what they did to make it such a success

The last one could really help us out here, obviously Marcus did something to make everything click. We just need to stumble upon that knowledge before this turns into another egaming website where it's the same 10 people scamming each other's accounts......

 

[protocall]

MMOBAY needs to buy markeedragon.com from marcus , Marcus is only using his trust who website . Make Marcus an offer MMO-BAY . Markeedragon.com was HOTTTT everyone knows about markeedragon and when it got switched it killed things .

 

[Durkadur]

They were selling the domain for 1 mill yeah.... I don't think its gonna happen.

 

[ShamanDnT1]

this is called the internet not America..

I'll pretend like that makes sense.

 

[ShamanDnT1]

they were selling the domain for 1 mill yeah.... I don't think its gonna happen.

ding ding ding.

 

[Leet Vendor]

Boy oh boy I can feel the love.

 

[EpicNPC]

How is redirecting http://forums.mmobay.net to our site going to lose people? lol?

Because the URLs from the UBB forums and VB forums don't match, all the traffic would just go to the forum homepage, vbforums.mmobay.net. After a short time, Google and other search engines would see none of the UBB posts exist anymore and start to de-index all those posts. Search engine traffic would plummit for the UBB forums after 1-2 months so there would be very little to redirect to the VB forums.

However keeping the UBB forums at they are now, Google will not de-index any posts since they're still there, and so search engine traffic will continue for months and years off those old posts. While traffic will eventually start to decline because theres nothing new at the UBB forums, some traffic will remain permanently.

Redirecting the UBB forums here, is a short term solution that would end up hurting the site, traffic wise, in the long run.

MMOBAY needs to buy markeedragon.com from marcus , Marcus is only using his trust who website . Make Marcus an offer MMO-BAY . Markeedragon.com was HOTTTT everyone knows about markeedragon and when it got switched it killed things .

Yes, it was being sold for 1 million, so no were not going to buy it.


Currently Search engine traffic is making up about 7% of the overall traffic, which is horrible. These are new forums, so it will take some time to start getting indexed in Google and other search engines. Theres nothing I can do to speed this process up, its out of my hands. But it is on its way. Yesterday again we had the highest search engine traffic since moving to VB forums. So there is progress being made, just needs time.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

Yea, I mean you can see it starting to make progress, people are just wicked impatient, especially those who only have this site for customers. The thing is, there is really no other website out there, that even has close to a good user base right now. Playerauctions has a decent size, but that site is crap, and I don't even understand how they haven't been sued for scamming 2,000 customers with their shitty recall guarantee crap. The only thing I think would help is to make a better link off the MMObay main set to get to these forums, its just a tiny link shoved into the corner, MMObay is ranked so high in google, you prob. get tons of traffic on the main site, but 99% of people who come have no idea there is an entire user base on the forums

 

[TRIPLESINNER]

yeah paying a million bucks for that name is not worth it, marcus is reaching too high there with that price, but tbh it doesnt surprise me thats what he wants.............

 

[ShamanDnT1]

Yea, I mean you can see it starting to make progress, people are just wicked impatient, especially those who only have this site for customers. The thing is, there is really no other website out there, that even has close to a good user base right now. Playerauctions has a decent size, but that site is crap, and I don't even understand how they haven't been sued for scamming 2,000 customers with their shitty recall guarantee crap. The only thing I think would help is to make a better link off the MMObay main set to get to these forums, its just a tiny link shoved into the corner, MMObay is ranked so high in google, you prob. get tons of traffic on the main site, but 99% of people who come have no idea there is an entire user base on the forums

Do you even think or read before you speak?

Currently Search engine traffic aka: google is making up about 7%

Edit: MarkeeDragon.com isn't worth a million dollars (More like $40,000) ... Just look at what the name itself represented. It's not the entrepreneur's fault...




http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.markeedragon.com

If you'd like to look at the public records for the website.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

nvm not worth my time

 

[DarkDeserter]

Do you even think or read before you speak?

Do you ever post without trying to incite a argument?

 

[TJP]

Alright everyone. Let's keep the subtle flaming off the thread so that we can post more constructive ways to move forward. My personal take is that it's been a month, and MD was over a decade old. In terms of history, this site is doing spectacular compared to the slow, but enormous growth over MD.

At this point, I think we should applaud Mike for all the efforts and his ability to take the forums to a whole new level. Within a month, the forum was redirected to another domain, upgraded in software, and had many bugs wrinkled out. There is a lot to be thankful for and very little to argue that time is the only way to cure this.

 

[TRIPLESINNER]

agreed, things are not terrible, and the point of this thread was not more whining crying and bitching about things, it was supposed to be a constructive platform to voice possible ways to help out a bit

 

[HomeGrownCharacters]

See the only problem with making the forum more well known is that people will choose to sell there characters on the forums (no cost) instead of using the auction based selling. Which could potentially lose Mike lots of revenue from that. I personally think a decision has to be made as to wether we are a forum selling economy or a auction based economy. I don't think both will work and it's almost impossible to advertise for both.

 

[DarkDeserter]

Being able to post accounts and services for free is what made markee so great, it's why I never used any thing other than it.

 

[atraill]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/448007-atraill-bought-leveling-services-but-never-paid.html

Loving the hate, and Shaman, get your facts straight. I was unbanned before Brad became mod I was just in-active as I am being now.

 

[MaskedArmory]

agreed, things are not terrible, and the point of this thread was not more whining crying and bitching about things, it was supposed to be a constructive platform to voice possible ways to help out a bit

I definitely understand your original reasoning for this posting. Sadly, things have gone off course, as they always do in this forum. I know that there are other "selling" solutions being made public. I know that TGS has his own solution now and I am working on my own as I post this. No one is trying to undermine MMOBay.net, but rather work in unison with it. There are limited options for the public to sell/trade/buy MMO game accounts. Having more sites out there dedicated to this will help traffic all across the board as more people will be frequenting all of the sites instead of just one. Markee Dragon has ruled the marketplace for quite some time and now it is time that there be more than solution as we have all recognized that having one site for doing things like this is just not enough. Because, if that one site has issues and has to shut down or sell, people need somewhere else to turn.

Just my two cents

 

[Wargod Satan]

Well there could be a option under your post that say "sell" and one that says "delete" because it would be easire for a op to manage.. just sayin. i would love to be able to do that...

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

I mean, I still find I have a ton of people interested in buying accounts daily, and it'll only get better.

 

[btraill]

If you don't think people have thought about new ideas/are in the process of new ideas by now... then I don't know what to tell you. :\

Not Flaming, Just Saying.

Sadly I think we all know the transformation of the sites in such a short amount of time killed the traffic and the sites.

Users don't like the layout, the choice in moderation, amongst numerous of other things.

If you'll notice rules aren't pertaining to some people -- Being unbanned because your brother is a moderator on this new site? I'm not going to harp on that, but I think we all know who I'm talking about.

Ignorance truly is bliss...

I myself harped on the moderation team that MD had re-hired at one point in time, as well. However, I soon retracted such comments because I didn't have a clue what they did behind the scenes.

The fact that was even brought up really shows ones true colour. Look at the scammer threads, I can tell you for a fact that this new team devotes a lot more time than previous ones. If I was such a great brother -- and being one then that means his warnings and infractions I've personally given him should be retracted!

Sadly, that's not how it works. Nor is that how I work.

atraill was unbanned (as far as I know) for compensating who he had to. Not because of personal preference or bias.

 

[Kuz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread (http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/461871-scammer-kuz-diablo-3-gold.html)

I'll pretend like that makes sense.

im not sure what your problem is, but heres some further elaboration.

the internet is international. the US government or any other government for that matter doesnt own it or run it.
therefore your claim to freedom of speech is invalid.

you dont have a right to say whatever you want, you can share your opinions if they dont break the forum rules.

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

hey kh, you spelled your site wrong in your signature

Site: http://www.khacounts.net

just letting ya know

 

[TJP]

hey kh, you spelled your site wrong in your signature

Site: http://www.khacounts.net

just letting ya know

Hahahahahaha. There's one solution.

 

[HomeGrownCharacters]

Maybe If someone with power was actually contributing to this section we would be moving in some direction right now. Maybe all the admins should hold a meeting or something or a open chat room on aim and invite TWV members with some influence in the forums to join and voice our opinions instead of us all gathering around and shouting our opinions into a barrel of water.

*Don't get me wrong I do like shouting, especially at water, why you may ask because it's just so damn wet. Wet is such a monetary term that's used to describe things in nature, If your actually reading this far down in my post (not mask because he lost all of his energy after the first three words) you basically have no life. You may be asking what life I have after typing all of this, we'll seeing that healer ques for heroics are about 2 minutes that's how much time I spent typing this so go die in a corner.

 

[Leet Vendor]

Everyone be happy damnit! It's easter... tomorrow at least!


/cry

 

[TRIPLESINNER]

I definitely understand your original reasoning for this posting. Sadly, things have gone off course, as they always do in this forum. I know that there are other "selling" solutions being made public. I know that TGS has his own solution now and I am working on my own as I post this. No one is trying to undermine MMOBay.net, but rather work in unison with it. There are limited options for the public to sell/trade/buy MMO game accounts. Having more sites out there dedicated to this will help traffic all across the board as more people will be frequenting all of the sites instead of just one. Markee Dragon has ruled the marketplace for quite some time and now it is time that there be more than solution as we have all recognized that having one site for doing things like this is just not enough. Because, if that one site has issues and has to shut down or sell, people need somewhere else to turn.

Just my two cents

yeah i should have expected it tbh

 

[atraill]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/448007-atraill-bought-leveling-services-but-never-paid.html

I'll pretend like that makes sense.

and.. I'm going to pretend like what you just said wasn't dumbfounded.

 

[MaskedArmory]

Atraill, I love you to death but the context in which you used the word "dumbfounded" just does not work at all. Dumbfounded is not a noun, it is a verb

 

[FancyMMO]

Banned - waiting on resolution to two dispute threads

oh wow English lessons, cool man

 

[dudedafool]

oh wow English lessons, cool man

Don't know the difference of when someone is joking and when they aren't? Cool man.

 

[TJP]

Locked. I shouldn't have to say why.