Sometimes i question humanity

ITALY · May 17, 2018

[HIDE=40]I am a really positive guy overall
But recently i've been "chargebacked" (scammed) a very big amount of money and i question humanity... Why would you scam anyone in the first place?
And if you do, why would scam such big amounts? Don't you remotely think that this person might have a baby coming soon? Don't you think that scamming THAT MUCH money could MAYBE be a ******* problem for the other person? I really question how good people truly are.. I'll stick to my beliefs and i'll never EVER scam anyone because that's a terrible move, but still.. I can't help but wonder what goes through people mind when they chargeback big amounts of money.. >Probably they just think they smarted, but in reality they're poor, they're just poor people trying to fill the void with money...
But still... I have a baby incoming and i really needed the money (THAT I EARNED) and now i have a decent gap in my budget, ******* sucks

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MistiServices · May 17, 2018

[HIDE=99999]I suggest u to make another paypal and take big amounts from people u dont know , here where i live we just have negative balance on paypal and thats all , not sure how it works in italy , does pp takes money from bank or there are some legal issues.[/HIDE]

About scammers , they will be always around to scam but 99% people are legit ones [HIDE=99999]( in last 5 years i had around 10 disputes/chargebacks combined with over 5k people who bought diffrent stuff of me ) [/HIDE]

ITALY · May 17, 2018

MistiServices said:
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About scammers , they will be always around to scam but 99% people are legit ones ***Hidden content cannot be quoted.***

I can't read the hidden content, i can't help but ask myself what's in it lmao

Cakeboost · May 17, 2018

I agree, many people are afraid to do the tradeб thinking that the service is too cheap or just too tempting, but people can be legit.

Atheista · May 18, 2018

I got scammed 2 times.First time was like some 4 years ago for butterfly knife in cs go worth 150$ valve scam and return policy is terrible by the way... Second time was here for an account that i bougth it got recalled.I would suggest u to sell or buy higher value accounts from trusted members and to use trade guardian.I would never buy or sell high value account to someone who doesnt have any rep or trading history. Better safe than sorry my friend.There wil always be scammers usualy they are aholes who just want ur money.But than there are some of them who are in desperate need of money like u are like paying off college some need money for food to survive and stuff...Still it is not nice to steal from others.But yeah buy expensive accounts from trusted users same goes for selling expensive accounts.Thats the only way to avoid getting scammed in my opinion since scammers are always looking for bigger prize pool.

Oh yeah so sad that Italy doesnt play on World cup this year such a shame

The Integrity · May 18, 2018

Sadly, that's part of this business, as it's not regulated in any way.

Apart from trying to prevent such scams, you also need to be ready in case they occur.
Set your prices accordingly, so that you can tank an occasional dispute or recall. And always have some backup money stored so that a larger scam doesn't wreck you.

Romolus · May 19, 2018

I mean you learn over time to prevent such scams from happening but sadly you need experience to make it different in the future. I also wanted once to buy some gold for Nostale when I was 15 or so a few years back then. Paid in Paysafe cards and never saw my money ever again, but those guys where like super professional in scamming so it seemed too legit towards me. Turns out I have fallen for an imposter middleman.

But hey now I know how to minimize the looses, still it happens every now and then that something goes up on ebay (I started to record most of my packaging with showing the tracking number on them, because you never know when someone lurks around the corner and says they have never received anything or its the wrong item). I really don’t know if those scammers just want to make some lunch money or are really in some financial crisis, did you really had to steal it from someone else? Its better just asking for help at that point. Mostly when I sell things it’s because I want to clear up space or kill off my dead account list and retrieve the money I have invested into them, just to play something differently.

ITALY · May 19, 2018

Romolus said:
I mean you learn over time to prevent such scams from happening but sadly you need experience to make it different in the future. I also wanted once to buy some gold for Nostale when I was 15 or so a few years back then. Paid in Paysafe cards and never saw my money ever again, but those guys where like super professional in scamming so it seemed too legit towards me. Turns out I have fallen for an imposter middleman.

But hey now I know how to minimize the looses, still it happens every now and then that something goes up on ebay (I started to record most of my packaging with showing the tracking number on them, because you never know when someone lurks around the corner and says they have never received anything or its the wrong item). I really don’t know if those scammers just want to make some lunch money or are really in some financial crisis, did you really had to steal it from someone else? Its better just asking for help at that point. Mostly when I sell things it’s because I want to clear up space or kill off my dead account list and retrieve the money I have invested into them, just to play something differently.

Chargebacked a F&F payment claiming it wasnt him sending the payment, he used proxies before sending said payments not much i can do

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Romolus · May 19, 2018

There is always everywhere a risk that something will happen, any where and everywhere. Afterall people are pretty much unpredictable, don't you think so? Even after you have known someone for such a long time they can turn their backs on you at any given moment. Thats just how life is. So are trades of this kind too.

Blargh44 · May 19, 2018

Romolus said:
I mean you learn over time to prevent such scams from happening but sadly you need experience to make it different in the future. I also wanted once to buy some gold for Nostale when I was 15 or so a few years back then. Paid in Paysafe cards and never saw my money ever again, but those guys where like super professional in scamming so it seemed too legit towards me. Turns out I have fallen for an imposter middleman.

But hey now I know how to minimize the looses, still it happens every now and then that something goes up on ebay (I started to record most of my packaging with showing the tracking number on them, because you never know when someone lurks around the corner and says they have never received anything or its the wrong item). I really don’t know if those scammers just want to make some lunch money or are really in some financial crisis, did you really had to steal it from someone else? Its better just asking for help at that point. Mostly when I sell things it’s because I want to clear up space or kill off my dead account list and retrieve the money I have invested into them, just to play something differently.

I used to play Nostale years ago too, I remember going after school to top up my phone so often so I could buy the premium currency (NosCash? Been so long I've forgot) but damn that was so addictive so I remember one summer a bunch of in-game friends and I quit. I'd sell my soul for more of those Bushi pets...

I've actually been reading up on your Granblue Fantasy dispute you were involved in since it came up, I really do hope you get justice for it as it is looking very clear the other person has lied about it being recalled. They haven't even bothered to come back on since, and Paypal usually decides with the buyer in these cases >.>

Romolus · May 19, 2018

Thanks, I really hope so as well. Already tried everything possible to get the account he received marked by the other communities, should she ever try joining a crew in the game. I may have lost some money and a account but hey that dosen't breaks a sweat right ^^

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