Scammer trying to reclaim money through Paypal

[Pretend_OW]

Dispute Against

killedbygenji

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@killedbygenji has tried to reclaim his purchase of my account on paypal saying there was a violation of the code of conduct, which is incorrect. Also his claims are easily countered by the proof i have in my disposal. Although he has blocked me on discord i request him to unblock me so we can resolve this issue instead of trying to scam me.

 

[Angel]

Please post an transaction image/proof of scam

 

[Pretend_OW]

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In this post he writes that the account is violating code of conduct of the site as well, i apologize in advance for the dutch sentences, should i translate it or keep the proof intact? The buyer has short after purchase blocked me from contacting him on discord where we chose to keep in touch. I also added proof that the buyer knew what he was buying since he linked the account himself where i confirm that it is the account in question. Notice that this has been days before he even made the purchase, so if buyer was aware of this he can not claim that this is me trying to scam this person.

 

[Pretend_OW]

Here is me (S1LLY) trying to confirm if everything is fine with the account where the buyer responded with everything looks good:

 

[Angel]

@killedbygenji notified

 

[Angel]

Ban in 24 hrs if no response

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

Officially Responding.

 

[Angel]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@killedbygenji, please contact @Pretend_OW on discord and try to resolve this

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

A bit confused as to what seller can do to secure an account which the information has already been made public but seller has been unblocked

 

[Pretend_OW]

The account has a fake name and you can add phone authentication. Therefore u can secure it.

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

Have attempted mediation with the seller, unsuccessful in attempt. Seller will not admit to lying about being the original owner of the account, a very simple admission of wrongdoing or malpractice. Instead they would rather avoid directly admitting and explaining why they decided to do this.

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

The account did not have phone authentication set up and when attempted to was denied

 

[Pretend_OW]

And the information isn't made public, you are the only person that knows about the logins. Not even me anymore since i expect you changed the details. And it's possible to secure the account even better by having an authenticator on the account.

 

[Pretend_OW]

Being able to change email and password while you have a fake name on the account should be enough. If ur concerned about the account then i will gladly return your money if i get my account back.

 

[Pretend_OW]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Buyer has blocked me once more on discord after being upset of my proof i showed him

 

[Pretend_OW]

The seller is simply trying to rip me off an account and trying to run away with the money. Unacceptable
As i stated before the seller has two options:
1. The buyer returns the account and gets his money back.
2. The buyer cancels the cashback and keeps the secure account.

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

Unfortunately no mediation could be reached. I can and have provided information that shows the seller has lied directly about account origins and at this point won't 'man up' and admit doing so. It is impossible to mediate with someone who cannot admit wrongdoing/fault or complicit behavior. I have made it very clear that I have tried with this seller, they violated my trust on more than one occasion by continuing to lie to my face or avoid owning up to it. I do not feel comfortable providing my personal information to seller a second time rewarding their clearly irresponsible behavior. The account available for sale was not password protected and authenticator cannot be set up as previously suggested. This was with a fake name as the seller suggests, and now they are suggesting i provide my financial information, personal records etc a second time.

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

I will unblock seller as no proof was provided that i was unhappy with, I can display that seller was repeatedly asked to own up to a lie they had given and they refused by avoiding doing so. In fact the last thing i had said to seller before blocking was have a nice day.

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

The seller is simply trying to rip me off an account and trying to run away with the money. Unacceptable
As i stated before the seller has two options:
1. The buyer returns the account and gets his money back.
2. The buyer cancels the cashback and keeps the secure account.

Secure Account is not an accurate statement

 

[Pretend_OW]

Buyer is denying the simple proof of him knowing what he bought and tries to lean on old topics that are dismissed. Buyer linked an account made on this site then i responded with yes that's the 4.2 account ( the account he bought). If that isn't a more clear answer then i don't know what else to say to this stubborn person.

See file attached:

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

When you were asked if you were the original owner of the account and you said yes did you lie? yes or no? Would you prefer to answer the question here?

 

[Angel]

@killedbygenji seller stated that you can keep your money but you must return the account. In the opposite, you must cancel the payment dispute

 

[killedbygenji]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-trying-to-reclaim-money-through-paypal.1629988/

Buyer is denying the simple proof of him knowing what he bought and tries to lean on old topics that are dismissed. Buyer linked an account made on this site then i responded with yes that's the 4.2 account ( the account he bought). If that isn't a more clear answer then i don't know what else to say to this stubborn person.

See file attached:

I did not deny buying account with knowing that you were not the original user, this was established, so there is proof but not for what you are suggesting, and this was explained that this was in an effort to continue to work with the seller on amicable terms. The seller was also specifically asked if the email was included with the account, another topic of concern that was also very clearly expressed by the buyer. The fact that the account was NOT secure was omitted from this and given the prior pattern seems deliberate. no... So at what point is the buyer worked over when they accept one lie only to be forced to accept virtually another. This is why there is an issue, you lied man, and hid, and avoided and continue to do so. I have included a reoccurring question left unaswered

 

[Pretend_OW]

It's not public if it's not made publicly.
Please choose your option so we can be done with this.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@killedbygenji Please return the account to pretend_OW and get a refund, you can then leave a feedback on Pretend_OWs account.

 

[Angel]

@killedbygenji has been online but failed to respond here

@Pretend_OW any update from him?

 

[Pretend_OW]

No updates yet.

 

[Angel]

Ban in 24 hrs if no response

 

[Angel]

@Pretend_OW who wins the payment dispute?

 

[Pretend_OW]

I was forced to escalate the claim forward to paypal themselves since the buyer did not want to reply on paypal either. So i'll have to wait till paypal decides which can take time.

 

[Angel]

Its clear that @killedbygenji are not going to refund the money or the account so we will consider this as a scam attempt

Banned
killedbygenji
[email protected]


@Pretend_OW good luck with the dispute. In case you lose you are allowed to contact support and retrieve your account back.