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Reason - Previously banned - Legionfarm
Hello EpicNPC team!
I'd like to open a dispute on behalf of Legionfarm.

Our account was banned because user Packmaster opened a dispute against us here - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/
We failed to resolve the dispute because we were engaged in correcting the last, which Mr. Packmaster had done.

First of all, Packmaster provided screenshots with phrases taken out of context.
We twice warned Packmaster that we would not pay him if he continues to DDos and Wintrade - we can't be risking getting our customer's accounts banned. Also we warned that we will return all previous payments if the client's account will be banned as a result - because we will need to compensate customer's expenses.
Here is proof - (Screenshot by Lightshot) - we warn the booster, and then he says that he made 20 matches with a wintrade, because otherwise, he would not have time to complete an order on time.
With Packmaster we also directly agreed on the execution of the order without wintrade - http://prntscr.com/nyeak3)]Screenshot

Secondly, after our refusal to pay for his dishonest job, he decided to take revenge and delete/ban our customer's accounts.
Proofs:
1 customer (Screenshot by Lightshot)
2 customer (Screenshot by Lightshot)
3 customer (http://prntscr.com/nyefh0)
4 customer (http://prntscr.com/nyeg3l)

Packmaster admitted that he has removed the characters from the accounts of the customers (proof - http://prntscr.com/nyegru)
This is the reason we failed to resolved the dispute - we were solving our problem's with customers and commented on the situation for our decent boosters.

This whole situation has led to large losses for the company. We gave Packmaster the opportunity to work and earn with us - all that was required was to follow the rules of the company.
Our company is officially registered in Singapore (Rocket Games Pte. Ltd.) - a country with savage conditions for those who are trying to play any kind of unfair business.
Safe, handmade service without cheats, aimbots or macros of any kind are our core requirements.

However, this person not only violate our rules, but let us and our clients down and in addition went further and achieved a ban on our profiles at EpicNPC and Ownedcore.

We have already solved the Ownedcore case and regained access to the forum.
Now we are asking you to unban our account and take actions against Packmaster.

Best regards Jesse, Legionfarm manager
 
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First of all, Packmaster provided screenshots with phrases taken out of context.
Okay show me where i provided phrases taken out of context?
Here is proof - (Screenshot by Lightshot) - we warn the booster,
You warned me about ddos and wintrading which i never used on your offers.
Packmaster admitted that he has removed the characters from the accounts of the customers (proof - http://prntscr.com/nyegru)
I said exactly that i DONT KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU TALKING. Then my message like "i had small choices" i send coz i reported you on all forums i knew. So no choices left.
Safe, handmade service without cheats, aimbots or macros of any kind are our core requirements.
You asked me to wintrade your orders here
you asked more times but deleted all chat history we had, idk how... :(
http://prntscr.com/o4xvb6

We have already solved the Ownedcore case and regained access to the forum.
The only reason that you got unbanned there is that I was too busy to respond
http://prntscr.com/o4xw1v
now i will win this thread coz you are scammers and you know that.
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/ne...792380-legionfarm-scammers-100-evidences.html
 
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Reason - Previously banned - Legionfarm
Okay show me where i provided phrases taken out of context?
You told a story in which you decently executed orders, and then Legionfarm refused you to pay money.
But for some reason, you missed the point that we:
- Did mailings in which we warned you that if you use DDoS and Wintrade when fulfilling orders and the customer will be suspended, we will not pay for the order and will refund the previous payments.
- One of such mailings was on March 26, after the screenshot, on which we ask you to execute the order with wintrade (about it below)
- You do not speak about the order, where we directly asked you not to do wintrade, and then you confessed that you did 20 matches with wintrade to meet the deadline during Redrix service.

Also, do not forget about the characters that you deleted. One client put 5 years into the game, how dare you do that.
This is the lowest that can be imagined in our field.

Why didn't you communicate like this before? It's only between us. Why do customers deserve it?

You warned me about ddos and wintrading which i never used on your offers.
These are your answers to the Ownedcore moderator - you just say that you used tricks and technique.
Screenshot - message about wintrading (to be fair - we asked you once. It was our regular customer who wanted to complete an order very quickly and very cheaply. We warned him about the risks, to which he agreed. After that, we turned to you. You had the reputation of booster who could fulfill the order in several ways. Therefore, we have no complaints about this order and do not use screenshots related to this order. This is an isolated and unique case.)
Screenshot - usage of "game tricks"
Screenshot - usage of "cheesing"
No matter how you call it, the account was banned, which was the reason for not paying you money. You let us down and instead of taking responsibility and finding a solution, you decided to make the situation even worse, in retaliation by removing the characters of our clients.
I was personally involved in finding solutions for each of our affected customers for the last two months and I will not let this situation go until justice is restored.

I said exactly that i DONT KNOW ABOUT WHAT YOU TALKING. Then my message like "i had small choices" i send coz i reported you on all forums i knew. So no choices left.
Here is the answer of the forum moderator, who sums up the dialogue with you.
You never denied our questions about deleting - and always talk about "I had no choice" and so on.

You asked me to wintrade your orders here
As i mentioned earlier, this is an isolated and unique case, we have no complaints about it.
But we also asked you not to wintrade after this order, so please stop wiggling and take the responsibility.

you asked more times but deleted all chat history we had, idk how... :(
http://prntscr.com/o4xvb6
No comments.

The only reason that you got unbanned there is that I was too busy to respond
http://prntscr.com/o4xw1v
now i will win this thread coz you are scammers and you know that.
https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/ne...792380-legionfarm-scammers-100-evidences.html
I recommend moderators to read Ownedcore thread as well.
 

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You told a story in which you decently executed orders, and then Legionfarm refused you to pay money.
Work was completed, and you decided to steal my money. 2500+ usd is the reason of your scamm.
- Did mailings in which we warned you that if you use DDoS and Wintrade when fulfilling orders and the customer will be suspended, we will not pay for the order and will refund the previous payments.
U started mail all boosters after 2 weeks of my hard work, and that was prepare before steal my money, like you warned me and i agreed to the policy but i was not agreed, and after warn i completed all offers by hands and i can proove it,
Also i repeating, i didnt use THINGS U CALLED WINTRADE coz its WOW and DOTA 2 methods when some players discpathing from the match. HERE in Destiny 2 this trick never causes bans! Check any forum the way you trying to spoil my services is disgusting!
- You do not speak about the order, where we directly asked you not to do wintrade, and then you confessed that you did 20 matches with wintrade to meet the deadline during Redrix service.
All orders from 26.03.2019 i completed by hands, also all orders for you i never used wintrade or ddos even if i say i used "wintrade to complete 20 matches" i was confused and scared about my money in your hands.

Oh please stop scamming here.

As i mentioned earlier, this is an isolated and unique case, we have no complaints about it.
But we also asked you not to wintrade after this order, so please stop wiggling and take the responsibility.
Here you can see that they are completely okay with wintrade and ddos, i didnt use it but who cares....
 
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Reason - Previously banned - Legionfarm
Work was completed, and you decided to steal my money. 2500+ usd is the reason of your scamm.
Once again:
1 - 26th of March was mailing with DDoS/Wintrade information.
2 - Customer's account you worked with was banned.
3 - We asked your comments - at this point you thought this is not serious, so easily confess about wintrading during Redrix service https://prnt.sc/nyecjv
4 - We refused to pay you the money for the current order. Stepan started a conversation with you to find a solution. https://prnt.sc/o4uurg
5 - We received a refund claim from our customer + additional expenses for banned account.
6 - We refunded our payments to you, according to company rules (which were delivered via mailing)
7 - You deleted characters of our clients.
8 - You accused us of scam on forums.

U started mail all boosters after 2 weeks of my hard work, and that was prepare before steal my money, like you warned me and i agreed to the policy but i was not agreed, and after warn i completed all offers by hands and i can proove it,
Also i repeating, i didnt use THINGS U CALLED WINTRADE coz its WOW and DOTA 2 methods when some players discpathing from the match. HERE in Destiny 2 this trick never causes bans! Check any forum the way you trying to spoil my services is disgusting!
All orders from 26.03.2019 i completed by hands, also all orders for you i never used wintrade or ddos even if i say i used "wintrade to complete 20 matches" i was confused and scared about my money in your hands.
This sentence has nothing to do with the real state of things.
More than 1000 PRO players are working on the orders at our platform and we always pay on time.
Our company is officially registered in Singapore (Rocket Games Pte. Ltd.) - a country with savage conditions for those who are trying to play any kind of unfair business.
We're supported by investments of well-known and respected VCs and we have the most expensive team on the market.
We spend hundreds of thousands on Google AdWords and other marketing channels.

Oh please stop scamming here.
I spend two months to solve the cases you have created us. Every single day i was on skype with customers, boosters, bungie and so on. Do you know why?
Because we can take the responsibility if something went wrong and we proved that.


Here you can see that they are completely okay with wintrade and ddos, i didnt use it but who cares....
Don't forget to read the last sentence please - "only if it is discussed in advance with the operator".

And of course you used it:
Screenshot - message about wintrading
Screenshot - usage of "game tricks"
Screenshot - usage of "cheesing"
 
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Okay lol, you just using my messages against me? Lol i can repeat here or anywhere, im not using ddos or wintrade.
1. When i met i said that i have different boost methods.
2. I worked a lot for weeks but got payment only for 6 orders from 30 completed orders. I asked you day by day when you will send payment and you ignored me for my 2000+ payment.
3. Then this client with btag Prositive
It in my first wave of orders from LegionFarm
No info about wintrade ddos and etc. 18.03.2019 started and they added this stupid redrix in order about they talking whole time here. Funny moment is that they confused me like they really offered do it without any game tricks but actually they didnt!
But truth is that there was no word about methods, they just asked me to do my job.
And i did, whole quest steps by hands! Excest 20 played cheesed competetive matches in the end
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Oh now let me show you real face of legionscammers I just found the way to open whole chat history and take a look on it.

Asking wintrade
Asking wintrade after they published warn about nowintrade on 26.03
28.03
Asking wintrade again 28.03

Oh thats me diclining all "no wintrade orders" as trust is only one way how i providing my services
https://i.imgur.com/oABxdub.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q3TzWyS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1ewmsoi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uMvKpYK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SzVqmMm.jpg
selfplay with happy client
https://i.imgur.com/9dJ470H.jpg

Confirming that there was other "boosters" on banned account who had possible to use cheats on their offers
https://i.imgur.com/2rpRKju.jpg
also i wanna reply to this funny thing
I spend two months to solve the cases you have created us. Every single day i was on skype with customers, boosters, bungie and so on. Do you know why?
U used this time to collect some chat dialogues from other scammed clients, you are scammers, everybody knows it, when i joined your group i saw a lot of messages in your skype about payment not recieved and boosters were kicked.
You earning money like that method. Kick boosters when your liability goes up than 1000 usd, i can prove that too...maybe....
 
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No need to argue here , EPICNPC admin will review proofs above and make decision.By adding uncessary replies here u are not making it easier for final decision.
 
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I just want to notify admin that PackMaster uses network manipulation which can lead to ban, why am i confident about it? BE CAUSE BUNGIE's Terms of Use does not allow network manipulation . I sent evidences of packmaster's discord where he shows people how to block ip addresses or how to adjust firewall so you cannot match with anyone in competitive playlist . [ it is called ' network manipulation, bungie does not allow it in their ToS, so it is pretty bannable i think : ) ]



1) - people who were banned for win-trades.
Funny to see how packmaster says that ' this method does not cause any bans ' or ' Win-trades never lead to ban '
The fact is that you use FireWall to block IP addresses which is ' network manipulation ' . Why do i know this? Be cause i've seen guide from you on your discord server
1) screenshot - guide from you how to block IP addresses - https://prnt.sc/o610gp
2) Detailed view at screenshots of your ' guide ' which leads people to bans. - https://prnt.sc/o611cg ( you can see that he blocks some of ip addresses and allows 1 particular. ) So lets get straight to conclusion . Bungie's ToS does NOT allow any kind of ' network manipulation ' . So my screenshots show that PackMaster does network manipulations. ( pack is probably going to delete all the guides he made but anyway, smashed. ) I only have 1 question i am wondering about... How packmaster can be confident that his way of doing ' win-trades - cheesing - game tricks ' does not lead to ban of account if bungie does not allow network manipulation ? I think the answer is simple as 2x2 = 4 ... PackMaster lies. He just lies, he harmed clients accounts and now he is trying to justify his name ( pack , you cannot justify your name by lying to admin.)



P.S All the information above i took in use from other guy on Owned core forum. Originally this information does not belong to me but i think it is useful for EpicNPC's admin to make final decision . PackMaster - is a lier . His method of wintrade is dangerous, you can easily get banned for it . But pack lies that no one ever been banned for it, so lets believe him as much as kids believe in Santa Claus .
 
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I just want to notify admin that PackMaster uses network manipulation which can lead to ban, why am i confident about it? BE CAUSE BUNGIE's Terms of Use does not allow network manipulation . I sent evidences of packmaster's discord where he shows people how to block ip addresses or how to adjust firewall so you cannot match with anyone in competitive playlist . [ it is called ' network manipulation, bungie does not allow it in their ToS, so it is pretty bannable i think : ) ]
Wow wow wow, not so fast bro, my favorite scammers goes mad when i ignoring him.
But really fun when u trying to scam here after gotta ban two times already.
1) screenshot - guide from you how to block IP addresses - https://prnt.sc/o610gp
Yeah right, this is how i guided my server to use firewall to lock ip adress, but wait wtf? who says im using it too?
How packmaster can be confident that his way of doing ' win-trades - cheesing - game tricks ' does not lead to ban of account if bungie does not allow network manipulation ? I think the answer is simple as 2x2 = 4 ... PackMaster lies.
He just lies, he harmed clients accounts and now he is trying to justify his name ( pack , you cannot justify your name by lying to admin.)
My dear, why u calling this thing network manipulation? you are an idiot or what? NETWORK MANIPULATION MEANS- that you are not allowed to modify network packets sent by game client to game server and etc.
What i using is not restricted also becouse 95% players gotta boosted with this method that means something about 40000 players got glory rank by using cheese method.
That also not restricted coz 80% boosters destiny 2 on epicnpc or wherever using cheese method coz its cheap and not causes bans or someshit on accs.
U are here only for lie to people and spoil my services. My pure reputation for about an year talks better then me, no one was restricted, no one was banned, you are lier.
Also im always laughing like crazy when i see your stupid screenshot of sept 10 2018 LOL, this player gotta ban for reason, not for cheese gaming lol.
I also provided account with 500 played games with cheese method, try to ban it and if it will happend i will block myself here.
 
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I never been banned on this forum before.

Do not insult me. Do not act like a kid, i only used facts and that is it.

I am going to follow moder's advice . I am not going to argue with you, i just send some info that shows that you are lying .
This one is so funny - ' Yeah right, this is how i guided my server to use firewall to lock ip adress, but wait wtf? who says im using it too? ' You guided your server to violate bungies ToS ? Network Manipulation is bannable , nice guides , pack .
Of course you do not use it , ahahah , i believe you (no.) Just stop being kid pack, i am not a scammer you want me to be. I am rightful man and i just expressed my thoughts on situation you are in.
All the facts are against you. If you want to beat up my facts, just bring proves.

That is it. I am not going to argue with you as i said before, i just shared information i have and i think this information has enough proves. My words are based on truth, yours on lie.
 
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I never been banned on this forum before.

Do not insult me. Do not act like a kid, i only used facts and that is it.

I am going to follow moder's advice . I am not going to argue with you, i just send some info that shows that you are lying .
This one is so funny - ' Yeah right, this is how i guided my server to use firewall to lock ip adress, but wait wtf? who says im using it too? ' You guided your server to violate bungies ToS ? Network Manipulation is bannable , nice guides , pack .
Of course you do not use it , ahahah , i believe you (no.) Just stop being kid pack, i am not a scammer you want me to be. I am rightful man and i just expressed my thoughts on situation you are in.
All the facts are against you. If you want to beat up my facts, just bring proves.

That is it. I am not going to argue with you as i said before, i just shared information i have and i think this information has enough proves. My words are based on truth, yours on lie.
Im sure that your info was provided by another guy who was banned here twice, this screenshot he always using this funny screenshot from twitter like its perfect proof of bans for cheese method, but lol
Check this and stop spoil my services bro, i know u cant stop this coz your emplyer asks to do this coz im your concurent, but who cares. I used cheese method for year and NO ONE WAS BANNED from more than 300 customers so go te hell with your scamm messages.
http://prntscr.com/o61red
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Your insults show that you are angry) You are angry be cause i am saying the truth that burns you ...

At this point i say good bye to you and your lies.
I would like to argue with you if you would use real evidences.
But you only lie and lie and lie ...

I am not accusing you of anything.
I just tell that LegionFarm manager is saying the truth. You cannot deny those facts that you harmed their accounts . Your actions cannot be called as ' human actions ' be cause innocent clients were harmed.
Also your actions lead to bans .

Good bye and stop lying, pack.
 
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Original dispute : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/

Packmaster was hired to do boost services by legionfarm.
Packmaster completed 30 orders without issue.
Legionfarm notifies Packmaster one of their customer's accounts was banned for cheats, legionfarm blames Packmaster.
Legionfarm opens dispute for payments set to Packmaster, totaling $1420.
Legionfarm failed to reply to dispute here, so they were banned.


This dispute :

Jesse J (Legionfarm) opens dispute claiming Packmaster used DDoS and Wintrading on the account.
Legionfarm claims they had 4 customer's accounts banned. Claims packmaster admitted to deleting accounts (In Russian, will have to be translated)
Legionfarm claims they didn't solve initial dispute because they were handling customer's claims.
Packmaster banned on ownedcore for failing to reply to dispute.

Is this correct?

All proof of chat provided is in Russian. One of you will have to translate the images, or you can copy the text and paste it here. I will run it through a translator.
 
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Mr. Admin, packmaster was not banned on ownedcore for failing to reply to dispute.
Packmaster had conversation with admin on ownedcore and admin said that packmaster is guilty.
 
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Seems correct.
Message was sent 26.03
http://prntscr.com/o62j0z
Информация для всех бустеров Legionfarm:Если вы используете ДДос, Винтрейд или другие запрещенные и нечестные абузы при выполнении заказа вашего клиента, в следствии чего он получит бан - вы потеряете все выплаты, а так же мы вернем все прошлые выплаты, т.к в таком случае мы будем вынуждены вернуть деньги клиенту.
But they aske me several times later to wintrade different orders and it was like usually work.
I provided proofs already, also i wanna take your attention to Capitan Jotunn. He is scammer and lies right now and i can prove it.
 
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So pack, you forgot this one : D
You admitted that you violated legion's farm rules on order where they DID SAY NOT TO WINTRADE : D
1) Screenshot of you admitting that you did win-trade - http://prntscr.com/o66tzn
2) Translation in google for admins . - pack admits that he used wintrade on order which were not supposed to be done by wintrades. Pack says that he win-traded that order be cause he was running out of time - http://prntscr.com/o66uzn
A little more proves of pack lying to you - Win-trade translation - http://prntscr.com/o66vic ( do not know why google translated it like ' wrestling wins ' )
What win-trade is in destiny 2 - http://prntscr.com/o66vrg . So pack literally exploited it and got acc banned and now he is lying : )
Good luck, pack. You violated legionfarm's rules which you agreed to follow. You are guilty at this point just be cause you admitted win-trading and also your win-trading got client's account banned .
Also you admitted that you deleted characters on client's accounts from legion farm.

Admin, i think packmaster is completely sank in the dirt he made with his filthy actions. Lets just review these 2 facts that are based on proves from me and legionfarm.
1) - Pack did violate legionfarm's ToS . He admitted that he did win-trade when it was not allowed by legionfarm.
2) Pack did harm clients . He deleted characters on client's accounts from legion farm. It is filthy to harm 3rd person.
Clients spent a lot of money and time on their accs and pack deleted all their hard work without any hesitation. Then pack tried to justify these actions by saying this ' i had no choice ' . Well ... you spoiled client's accs... You literally got no profit off it, so what is the reason?
 
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Can provide any proofs or screenshots.
Just gotta ban on ownedcore for folowing reason.
Capitan Jotunn's account posted some scamm shits there too, DvASystem admitted that i have already gotten a partial refund from Paypal- which is LOL coz legionfarm admitted their liability to 2500 usd from 3250 usd and i got only 750 from whole work i already completed.

It seems unfair when somebody never used my services posting some spoil things to make me banned here without clear evidences or proof of my bad work.
Also im not sure about why DvASystem really thinks that i used DDOS or wintrade, omg i used ingame trick and legionfarm was clearly notified about it. I took orders with manual hard work and took orders for wintrade etc. And they was very pleased, they asked more and more, and i have proof of completed more than 300 hundreds offers like that, nobody was banned or hurt.
 
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DvASystem is wrong, and you are totally lier, you are my concurent and your mission here is lie about me to others to get me banned. you arent my client, you never worked with me, the only reason why u came here is scamm and kick my ass from that business.
 
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Let me step in here real quick cause I had my issues with LegionFarm as well.

First off, let me start by saying, Pack, if you truly are DDos'ing/Wintrading, please stop for the sake of these trying to be legit.

Second. I can side with Pack in saying that LegionFarm is a manipulative site. They went as far as to fake dms trying to blacklist me from boosting all because I customer grew impatient and wanted their money back. I will say that although it was slow and they took more than 50%, they did follow through with payments as promised.

Pack, if you are truly DDos'ing/Wintrading (not trying to translate that "proof" lol) I would not recommend trying to boost for a site. I would instead either create your own service or find another place to advertise services such as a Discord or different forum
 
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Just saw the part about deleting characters, the only time I've heard anyone doing that is to troll a friend or as a form of payback if they didn't get paid so.... Something ain't adding up.
 
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Is any decision coming up?
2 facts based on proves are against PackMaster.
1) - He used win-trade and ddos when legionfarm did not allow it. You can check screenshots from legionfarm as an evidence of ddos.
2) PackMaster admited that he deleted characters on client's accounts just be cause he had no choice.

You also can check ownedcore for more information. There is a lot of pitiful attempts from packmaster to justify his unrightful actions.
I still cannot understand how can it be possible ... Sorry for those clients whose accs were harmed by pack.
 
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Is any decision coming up?
2 facts based on proves are against PackMaster.
1) - He used win-trade and ddos when legionfarm did not allow it. You can check screenshots from legionfarm as an evidence of ddos.
2) PackMaster admited that he deleted characters on client's accounts just be cause he had no choice.

You also can check ownedcore for more information. There is a lot of pitiful attempts from packmaster to justify his unrightful actions.
I still cannot understand how can it be possible ... Sorry for those clients whose accs were harmed by pack.
Oh yeah bro. Try to scam me more. Little lier from ukraine zaporozhie. Nice scam **** without evidences. DvAsystem is totally wrong, coz he made decision on ur scammy fake twitter screenshot lmao
 
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fake twitter screenshot ? Those screenshots are posted on twitter, yes, you are right.
But screenshots were taken on BUNGIE.NET which is official site of destiny 2 game.

So what are we talking about again ?
You are insulting me just be cause you know that i am saying right things. You call everyone a ' scammer ' around you but you show no evidences.
You violated legionfarm's ToS, you harmed 3rd persons ( their client's accs ) and now you are talking that we are scammers ?

Do you understand that things you have done to their clients are filthy? It is not human way of solving problems with company. That was childish way of solving problems and you have to be punished for your lies and harmful actions to 3rd persons .
Just remember pack , you are not man. Why am i confident about it? Just be cause you harmed innocent people.
Honest booster and man would never do harmful things to 3rd persons. You did : )
Ratty pack)
 
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