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josh120398 scammer recalled the twitter acc

Dispute Type
Scam Accusation

chippox

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Dispute Against
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Information
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Purchase Date: JAN 11 2022
Date the problem began: JAN 13 2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Epicnpc
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: josh120398
Your Instant Messenger ID: chippox

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/57k-crypto-acc.2142735/
Approximate value of property: $350.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? YES
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? MM id was useeds

What is the dispute about?
Josh and i deal and take a trade guardian service i bought him 57k twitter and changed twitter id to RustyRobotsNFT.The proof is clear here. I added your Discord and asked if there is any nft related twitter account for sale? He gave me the link of my account that he stole back from me. So he proved that he stole it back.
Other details / notes:
  • Transaction #52336


Proof
Screenshot from 2022-01-13 10-36-14.png

This is the image before he sold me the account.

AND i changed the username as RustyRobotsNFT

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Here is the discord chat today he think i am another person and trying to sell my account


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and there is the last proof at his thread he typed his discord nick which matches with my discord chat screenshot.

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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
  • Transaction #52336
  • Transaction STATUS : Complete
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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josh120398

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Hi,

As buyer states, transaction was done using MM for both parts safety. MM secured the account, he got access and secured it after too. What happens with the account after I give it to the MM is not the sellers responsability.

Here is the conversation with buyer on Discord:
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I'm not even falling for a fake screenshot easily done with inspect element. I could make him say whatever I want with just a right click.

Buyer either wants to have the account AND the money, either was hacked and wants the money back, either sold the account again and want this money too. I don't know what he wants, but MM secured the account for him, that's it
 
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Also, you say that I'm selling the account after selling it to you. Admins can check that I have a guy wanting to buy the account from me and I'm not even replying to him since I already sold the account
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January 11th account was sold via Trade Guardian
January 13th was reported that the account has been lost
January 13th @josh120398 offered the same account on discord


It's clear evidence that the account has been taken by seller. You gave 24 hrs to return the account or you will be banned
 
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January 11th account was sold via Trade Guardian
January 13th was reported that the account has been lost
January 13th @josh120398 offered the same account on discord


It's clear evidence that the account has been taken by seller. You gave 24 hrs to return the account or you will be banned
Excuse me but I've never offered the same account on Discord, and I specially didn't offer the account that I sold to the same guy that bought it which has the same username on Discord and on the website I sold it to lmao.

Here you've my screen recording of the conversation with buyer

I'm not able to return an account that I already gave access to the MM and the buyer. At this point, there is no evidence that someone else other than the buyer has the account
 
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Here you've another video showing how easy is to make sellers screenshot:

I won't take that as a valid proof. I could make him say anything in a mather of seconds with inspect element.
 
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I will ask you both to show me the conversation video from discord client. Upload a video on Youtube and post a URL here
 
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Here is the proof i make the first touch from whatsapp (the number shown in my previous screenshots) and he think i am another person and typed me from discord,after i post the dispute he deleted the message and in discord there is no back if a message deleted.
 
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Please post evidence from discord, if the message is deleted we will see that is deleted

@josh120398 i am waiting on your video too
 
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@josh120398 please contact Twitter support and try to retrieve the account back. Post here once when you get a response
 
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It's asking for username, should I put the one it had when I sold the acc or the one it has now?

It also asks for email and phone, should I put the ones I had before selling it or the ones the buyer changed them to?
 
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It's asking for username, should I put the one it had when I sold the acc or the one it has now?

It also asks for email and phone, should I put the ones I had before selling it or the ones the buyer changed them to?
Old username and old email, if you have original it will be best
 
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